Old consoles are great aren't they? If you want to play old games it might worth thinking about what you can do to maximize your experience and you can do this with a range of addons and mods. What I intend to do with this thread is show each available mod/add on or accessory for each console and where appropriate where it can be purchased, carried out yourself or I may be able to do it for a nominal fee. Now just to give you an idea of what I can offer for example I will replace batteries in old cartridges which require them for saves or sega saturn mod service ill add to the list as time goes on so bare in mind this is a work in progress for the time being.
Gonna start with the console that is dear to my heart!
If you are going to start collecting or just want to play some classic N64 games I would recommend getting a NTSC console that can be RGB modded for best picture results but not all revisions are compatible:
Nintendo 64 Forever wrote:
Serial #, RGB Compatibility: NS111120581, yes NS127959472, yes NS231845852, possibly NS251086457, no NS251468024, no
As a rule of thumb: NS251......, no NS1........, yes
Now this does require the use of a soldering iron and a gamebit security screwdriver (Available from HERE) but it is a really straight forward mod, I have done one myself since getting my own premodded N64 and I had no difficulties, full instructions can be found at www.gamesx.com Also bare in mind you will need to purchase a RGB scart cable (I got mine from ebay for £4.50).
PAL machines can not be modded in this way, so not only is the game running slower it looks crappier.
Thats with RGB
As you can see it makes a massive difference and is worth the small amount of effort to achieve such great results. However now you have this stunning picture you realize that the controller has seen better days and the thumb stick is a absolute joke! All that effort to make the picture so crisp and clear and you cant even play on it! But there is hope! You can now purchase 3rd party replacement sticks which make the controller BETTER than new. The third party ones are very similar to gamecube thumb sticks:
Only a Philips head screw driver required and these genuinely are 100% better than the originals IMO.
Now the games themselves need to be looked after in order to keep them working. What I would recommend for this is getting a cleaning kit like THIS and taking apart your games and carefully cleaning the connectors. There is a video inside the link which explains exactly what to do. Now finally we come to something that may not be a issue yet but its good to know it can be fixed. Battery Back up saves will eventually die and you will need to replace the battery in order to continue using the save functionality. Now there are two methods to do this: method 1 requires a soldering iron method 2 requires a bit of tape. Personally I want it doing properly so I solder.
You WILL lose your current data but at least the game is functioning how god intended! These are SNES instructions but the principles are the same.
The over looked 32bit machine from Sega. The Saturn really was a great machine and had some fantastic games from Sega and Capcom especially. Now a lot of the great games or superior versions appeared on the Japanese market and a lot of the mainstream games are available for stupidly cheap prices on eBay. Now as with the N64 I would recommend getting a Jap machine for 2 reasons firstly it looks nicer in white and second its less faffing on!
Now if you are interested in playing import games you might want to consider "modifying" the console to make it run "anything" from that region no matter what media it is on...
To do this it is really straight forward and infact it is much easier than the original mod I have but some saturns are easier than others to mod:
Model 1 Saturn:
Oval power and reset button / 20 pin ribbon cable
Model 2 Saturn:
Oval power and reset buttons / 21 pin ribbon cable / 64 pin IC. Round power and reset buttons / 21 pin ribbon cable / 64 pin IC. Round power and reset buttons / 21 pin ribbon cable / 32 pin IC. Round power and reset buttons / 21 pin ribbon cable / No IC (AKA Sanyo Board)
Now the Model 2 Saturns are the easiest and full instructions can be found at HERE they also supply the chip.
Heres some pics from inside my machine to give you a idea of what to expect:
The Chip, one wire soldered to the chip which is soldered to the top of the power supply inside, quite easy to do.
Thats the ribbon that connects the drive to the main board, on the newer chips the ribbon is not required to fix it to the mainboard as it just slots in.
All back together!
Now this mod will allow you to play games from back up but only from the region intended. Now if you are like me and only plan to use such a device to sample something before you get it you will still want to play games from other regions, now if you are just sampling them you can get a program that changes the region of ISO files to Jap or what ever region Saturn you have in order to make them run. To be honest this isn't a ideal way and what you really want if you want to play games from any region is.....
The EMS 3 in 1 card, while plugged into the Saturn it will boot games from ANY region and combined with the above mod will allow you to play anything. Not only does it do that it but also is a 4mb expansion for the games that require it. You can also use it to back up game saves however it can not be used to save games while in game.
Now that's my set up for the Saturn you can get some sweet mods from console passion which allow you to change the region, 50hz/60hz of a PAL machine not sure what else it plays exactly but it is switch less.
The other thing you need to think about is replacing the internal battery which is straight forward and self explanatory to allow you to keep saving. For my sins I don't actually have a good video cable for this console yet but from my understanding you can just purchase a RGB scart which works with no fuss.
SNES coming next.....
FOR SALE: I have 5 reconditioned controllers for Nintendo 64 these are cleaned, have had the sticks replaced and are available in red, green and 3x grey £15 each + P&P (will need to check) PM if interested.
If I have missed anything or you want to add anything please let me know
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Last edited by Santasbean on Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:51 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Awesome opening post to a great idea for a thread, kudos Will bookmark those links.
I got a Mega Drive modded for 60Hz/import compatibility from Console Passion and was ecstatic with the results. 60Hz is such an improvement it's rather criminal we were stuck with 50Hz for so long. Plus being able to play any game from any region on the one machine is a treat. Hoping to get the same done to my SNES and a Sega Saturn I'll be buying from Dig Dug.
A NTSC N64 setup is something I want to do down the road, though it's annoying given I built up a fairly sizeable PAL collection back in the system's heyday. I need that 60Hz and RGB though...it's a shame both the N64 and PS1 don't seem to be mod friendly as far as 60hz goes.
As for cleaning games, I use isopropyl alcohol that I bought from Maplins along with q-tips. Definitely worth investing in some method of cleaning contacts, after a good clean most games pretty much run 100% of the time.