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by Blue Eyes » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:17 pm

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Errkal wrote:How is it obviously disgusting? It is a dancing chicken. strawberry float me get over yourself.


It's an (exploited) dancing chicken advertising an establishment that slaughters exploited chickens (in awful conditions). You'd literally have to be either a child or irredeemably dense to find it funny or acceptable.

Fair point but I don't really find it that offensive, personally. The graphic content warning on the OP seemed way over the top.

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by Denster » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:28 pm

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Errkal wrote:How is it obviously disgusting? It is a dancing chicken. strawberry float me get over yourself.


It's an (exploited) dancing chicken advertising an establishment that slaughters exploited chickens (in awful conditions). You'd literally have to be either a child or irredeemably dense to find it funny or acceptable.


I don't find it funny but I don't find it offensive. That doesn't make me dense. It just means you're making one of your usual sweeping statements about anything you disagree with.

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by Knoyleo » Sun Aug 13, 2017 3:33 pm

Blue Eyes wrote:
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Errkal wrote:How is it obviously disgusting? It is a dancing chicken. strawberry float me get over yourself.


It's an (exploited) dancing chicken advertising an establishment that slaughters exploited chickens (in awful conditions). You'd literally have to be either a child or irredeemably dense to find it funny or acceptable.

Fair point but I don't really find it that offensive, personally. The graphic content warning on the OP seemed way over the top.

It's a KKlein thread.

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by Errkal » Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:35 pm

Lucien wrote:
Errkal wrote:How is it obviously disgusting? It is a dancing chicken. strawberry float me get over yourself.


It's an (exploited) dancing chicken advertising an establishment that slaughters exploited chickens (in awful conditions). You'd literally have to be either a child or irredeemably dense to find it funny or acceptable.

Expect it is pretty well documented that KFC (at least in the UK where this advert was used) doesn't have all th asst bad conditions for chicken, it isn't higher welfare but it is red tractor approved etc. So it isn't much different to how a normal super market chicken is raised if not better.

The long kfc is well bad their legs at trotted and everything is a bullshit argument as stupid and world as the McDonald's burgers aren't actually beer.

Yeah it isn't epic food and it is organic corn fed massaged luxury bird but that doesn't mean it is devil or wrong or whatever, it is the usual high bullshit I find with some here that make out like it is.

At the end of the day it was an animated dancing chicken from a company that sells chicken, that isn't offensive or disturbing it is a strawberry floating chicken.

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by PuppetBoy » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:52 pm

I'm not sure about 'The Whole Chicken' as a slogan mind. It makes me wonder what they're doing with the beaks and entrails and gooseberry fool.

I can see why people think it's a touch distasteful, although 'offensive and distressing' seems a bit much. I thought this article was on point for why this ad may be considered a misstep. https://www.marketingweek.com/2017/07/1 ... on-kfc-ad/

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by Pedz » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:06 pm

Errkal wrote:
Lucien wrote:
Errkal wrote:How is it obviously disgusting? It is a dancing chicken. strawberry float me get over yourself.


It's an (exploited) dancing chicken advertising an establishment that slaughters exploited chickens (in awful conditions). You'd literally have to be either a child or irredeemably dense to find it funny or acceptable.

Expect it is pretty well documented that KFC (at least in the UK where this advert was used) doesn't have all th asst bad conditions for chicken, it isn't higher welfare but it is red tractor approved etc. So it isn't much different to how a normal super market chicken is raised if not better.

The long kfc is well bad their legs at trotted and everything is a bullshit argument as stupid and world as the McDonald's burgers aren't actually beer.

Yeah it isn't epic food and it is organic corn fed massaged luxury bird but that doesn't mean it is devil or wrong or whatever, it is the usual high bullshit I find with some here that make out like it is.

At the end of the day it was an animated dancing chicken from a company that sells chicken, that isn't offensive or disturbing it is a strawberry floating chicken.



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by Lucien » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:21 pm

Errkal wrote:
Lucien wrote:
Errkal wrote:How is it obviously disgusting? It is a dancing chicken. strawberry float me get over yourself.


It's an (exploited) dancing chicken advertising an establishment that slaughters exploited chickens (in awful conditions). You'd literally have to be either a child or irredeemably dense to find it funny or acceptable.


Expect it is pretty well documented that KFC (at least in the UK where this advert was used) doesn't have all th asst bad conditions for chicken, it isn't higher welfare but it is red tractor approved etc. So it isn't much different to how a normal super market chicken is raised if not better.

At the end of the day it was an animated dancing chicken from a company that sells chicken, that isn't offensive or disturbing it is a strawberry floating chicken.


It doesn't really matter how well the chickens are treated - though they are treated badly - using one in a comedic/disrespectful fashion to promote KFC is awful.

If an advert treated humans this way (say a sweatshop worker danced to promote Nike) it'd be completely evident why that'd be in insanely bad taste, agreed? You think the same approach becomes acceptable when it's aimed towards animals - why?

Maybe you think KFC's actions are fine because the chicken likely has no clue what's going on. But KFC knows what it's doing, and some of us know what they're doing -- they're being complete dicks, using what they oppress to promote that oppression.

Errkal wrote:The long kfc is well bad their legs at trotted and everything is a bullshit argument as stupid and world as the McDonald's burgers aren't actually beer.


I don't know how this happened.

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by Karl » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:25 pm

Animals aren't sapient. Raising a chicken to eat it isn't 'oppression.'

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by Preezy » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:29 pm

Sick of KFC disrespecting chicken, so oppressive.

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by Knoyleo » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:33 pm

Lucien wrote:It doesn't really matter how well the chickens are treated - though they are treated badly - using one in a comedic/disrespectful fashion to promote KFC is awful.

If an advert treated humans this way (say a sweatshop worker danced to promote Nike) it'd be completely evident why that'd be in insanely bad taste, agreed? You think the same approach becomes acceptable when it's aimed towards animals - why?

Animals and humans are different?

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by Errkal » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:33 pm

The chickens are neither caged or battery raised so in the grand scheme of things they aren't that badly raised.

Also you can't oppress a chicken. If you are unsure why a clue is IT'S A CHICKEN!

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by <]:^D » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:35 pm

i welcome the day when our oppressed chickens rise up and kill you all
i shall be their emissary 8-)

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PostRe: KFC's new offensive, misleading and distressing TV commercial...
by Ironhide » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:24 pm

Karl wrote:Animals aren't sapient. Raising a chicken to eat it isn't 'oppression.'


That is pretty much my opinion on eating meat.

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by Lucien » Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:58 am

Knoyleo wrote:
Lucien wrote:It doesn't really matter how well the chickens are treated - though they are treated badly - using one in a comedic/disrespectful fashion to promote KFC is awful.

If an advert treated humans this way (say a sweatshop worker danced to promote Nike) it'd be completely evident why that'd be in insanely bad taste, agreed? You think the same approach becomes acceptable when it's aimed towards animals - why?


Animals and humans are different?


Animals and humans are different, but in each case (KFC and the imaginary Nike advert) the companies would be doing the same thing: portraying the misery they create as a bit of fun whilst cruelly exploiting that which they already exploit - a dancing chicken as the face of slaughtered chickens or a dancing sweatshop worker as the face of miserable workers, the idea is the same. Both adverts would be incredibly dick-ish.

I'm not saying the adverts should be treated exactly the same, but there should be enough crossover so that we deem KFC adverts like this one to be unacceptable.

Karl wrote:Animals aren't sapient. Raising a chicken to eat it isn't 'oppression.'


KFC doesn't raise one chicken. It oppresses millions of chickens (if you dislike 'oppression' use another word that means "controls them and inflicts mass suffering on them"). I'm not concerned how intelligent they are, if they're distressed and aware that's enough.

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by Karl » Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:37 am

Chickens don't have a sense of dignity, so they don't care that they are being portrayed misleadingly in an advert. It's not clear at all that chickens feel 'distress' in a way that is directly comparable to our thoughts and emotions. They probably do feel 'uncomfortable' and occasionally 'stressed out'/'frightened' while living in bad conditions. This is unfortunate and my preference would be for conditions to be improved, but not at the expense of the economic viability of delicious fried fast food.

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by Lagamorph » Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:39 am

Doesn't the EU have pretty strict laws on the conditions that chickens can be kept in to ensure that it's not like an American battery farm where they're just shoved in with as many chickens in as small a space as possible?

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by Errkal » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:29 am

Lagamorph wrote:Doesn't the EU have pretty strict laws on the conditions that chickens can be kept in to ensure that it's not like an American battery farm where they're just shoved in with as many chickens in as small a space as possible?

They do. Abd KFC farms are above thr minimum requirenent as that all have conform to the red tractor specifications.

Their chickens although indoor raised aren't all that badly raised. It is is just the usual urban myth thing that because with is fast food it must be badly treated and tortured etc.

There was a documentary about KFC on the BBC a while ago that showed the whole chain from farm to bucket sort of thing.

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by Knoyleo » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:05 am

Lucien, how do you feel about the below egg packaging/branding?

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by Moggy » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:43 am

Knoyleo wrote:Lucien, how do you feel about the below egg packaging/branding?

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"The oppression of literal BABIES!"

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by Lucien » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:15 am

Lagamorph wrote:Doesn't the EU have pretty strict laws on the conditions that chickens can be kept in to ensure that it's not like an American battery farm where they're just shoved in with as many chickens in as small a space as possible?


We have similar farms, though ours aren't as bad as the US'

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... on-reveals

Knoyleo wrote:Lucien, how do you feel about the below egg packaging/branding?

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I'm not a fan of that because I don't like animal servitude being marketed as a happy or loving thing.


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