Police in US Shoot Man For Holding "Something"

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by Rightey » Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:03 pm

But not something you would probably expect...

http://www.wcsh6.com/news/article/18973 ... lding-baby

SCOTTSDALE, AZ (KPNX) -- An Arizona man was shot to death by police Tuesday while holding his grandson.

Police say 50-year-old John Loxas was holding his grandchild in his arms as he walked around his Scottsdale neighborhood Tuesday night threatening neighbors and police.


"There were at least three officers in position to engage the suspect. At least one of the officers thought he saw something in the suspect's hands," said Sgt. Mark Clark.

Loxas was standing outside of his home with his grandchild still in his arms when Officer James Peters fired one shot to the head, killing the suspect.

Police say the 9-month-old boy was not injured during the shooting.

Officers also escaped unharmed.

Some neighbors are now questioning the officers actions.

Investigators say the officers on the scene thought Loxas was holding a gun.

Detectives did not find a weapon on Loxas following the shooting, but did locate several firearms inside the home.

Officer Peters, who fired the fatal shot, has been involved in seven shootings over the past decade.
Six of those have been fatal, and all have been ruled justified.


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PostRe: Police in US Shoot Man For Holding "Something"
by Falsey » Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:08 pm

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PostRe: Police in US Shoot Man For Holding "Something"
by satriales » Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:20 pm

I heard about this. The police say they thought he had a gun in his hand, but actually all he had was a phone in his pocket.
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PostRe: Police in US Shoot Man For Holding "Something"
by Moggy » Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:30 pm

So they shoot a man for holding his baby grandson and:

Some neighbors are now questioning the officers actions.


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PostRe: Police in US Shoot Man For Holding "Something"
by Rightey » Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:31 pm

satriales wrote:I heard about this. The police say they thought he had a gun in his hand, but actually all he had was a phone in his pocket.


They don't say that they just say they thought he was holding "something" they never mention that they thought it was a gun, or a knife or any kind of weapon. Also how the strawberry float do you mistake a baby for a gun! You don't exactly hold them the same way do you?
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PostRe: Police in US Shoot Man For Holding "Something"
by NickSCFC » Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:32 pm

You always know it's going to be some southern state when you read a headline like that.
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PostRe: Police in US Shoot Man For Holding "Something"
by satriales » Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:35 pm

Rightey wrote:
satriales wrote:I heard about this. The police say they thought he had a gun in his hand, but actually all he had was a phone in his pocket.

They don't say that they just say they thought he was holding "something" they never mention that they thought it was a gun, or a knife or any kind of weapon.


In the article I saw they did:
When officers arrived, Loxas had returned to his house, but came to the door with the baby in his arms, police said. Peters and another officer told investigators that they saw a black object in Loxas' hand. Loxas turned to go back inside when Peters, who was standing 18 feet away at the edge of the driveway, shot him in the head with his patrol rifle, police said.

"(Loxas) was holding the baby in his left arm in front of his upper body and face. Moments later, he reached down to his right, lowering the baby, clearly exposing his head and upper body. Officer Peters responded to the movement with a single shot (to) the suspect's head. The suspect fell to the ground and the baby was rescued by officers. The suspect died instantly," Clark said.

Peters "felt he had to prevent him from re-entering the house," Clark said. "The intent was to rescue the baby." Investigators later determined that Loxas was not carrying a gun but had a cellphone in his pants pocket.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2012/02/15/20120215shooting-seventh-scottsdale-police-officer.html#ixzz1mZ1VZrTu
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PostRe: Police in US Shoot Man For Holding "Something"
by Rightey » Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:41 pm

Well that does clarify things a bit, but it still doesn't justify shooting the guy in the head in order to "rescue the baby".
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PostRe: Police in US Shoot Man For Holding "Something"
by smurphy » Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:55 pm

Officer Peters, who fired the fatal shot, has been involved in seven shootings over the past decade.
Six of those have been fatal, and all have been ruled justified.


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by Skarjo » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:09 pm

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PostRe: Police in US Shoot Man For Holding "Something"
by Lagamorph » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:38 pm

strawberry floats sake :fp:

I thought there were rules against opening fire when a child could potentially be in the line of fire, even if the officers themselves thought they were personally at risk.


Everytime I think that police officers in this country might be better off if they were armed, I read a story like this that reminds me why they shouldn't.
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by Scotticus Erroticus » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:43 pm

Death is the easy way out for him, I'd give him solitary and make him suffer.
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PostRe: Police in US Shoot Man For Holding "Something"
by Alvin Flummux » Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:00 pm

Rightey wrote:Isn't Alvin moving to the US soon? RIP in peace Alvin


It'll be Ohio though, not Arizona, so at least I'm going to be eaten by escaped big cats and not gunned down by Officer Fuckhead.
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PostPolice in US Shoot Man For Holding "Something"
by Proposer » Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:32 pm

Sounds like he lost his head.
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PostRe: Police in US Shoot Man For Holding "Something"
by tomvek » Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:37 pm

smurphy wrote:
Officer Peters, who fired the fatal shot, has been involved in seven shootings over the past decade.
Six of those have been fatal, and all have been ruled justified.


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PostRe: Police in US Shoot Man For Holding "Something"
by 1cmanny1 » Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:46 pm

I don't see anything wrong here, what would you do if you thought he was pulling a gun, with a kid in his arms? Get into a fire fight? Run away? Or shoot him in the head...
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by Alvin Flummux » Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:56 pm

1cmanny1 wrote:I don't see anything wrong here, what would you do if you thought he was pulling a gun, with a kid in his arms? Get into a fire fight? Run away? Or shoot him in the head...


Well, first you'd ascertain that there definitely was a firearm on his person, then you'd radio in for back-up.
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PostRe: Police in US Shoot Man For Holding "Something"
by Skarjo » Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:58 pm

1cmanny1 wrote:I don't see anything wrong here, what would you do if you thought he was pulling a gun, with a kid in his arms? Get into a fire fight? Run away? Or shoot him in the head...


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PostRe: Police in US Shoot Man For Holding "Something"
by 1cmanny1 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:06 am

I don't think you guys are really putting yourselves in that situation...
I don't know how many of your police get killed, but quite a few of ours do. And sometimes when you see someone reaching for something in their pocket and shouting abuse, asking questions and waiting to see what it is could get you, and other innocents, killed.
Which is why I wish our Police were armed.

Also why would calling for back up help, if he did have a gun? He had a baby ffs!
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PostRe: Police in US Shoot Man For Holding "Something"
by Skarjo » Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:08 am

Yes, our streets are awash with 50 year old men roaming the streets armed with AK-47s and infant children.

Shoot first, apologise for lack of childhood memories later.
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