6 Nations Thread 2012 - Wales Grand Slam Winners!

[Something Fishy]

U21's last night:

Scotland 3 England 59

This should finally really highlight to the RFU that they have to start getting some of these talented kids into the senior set-up.

Maybe today's new start is the start of that but i fear a big defeat could be on the cards as they rebuild and it'll take some time to win again.

Wales have really built on bringing their talented kids in and it's done wonders. Eng have to do the same.

[Starbreaker]

Italy to beat France again.

Believe.

[Donk]

U21's last night:

Scotland 3 England 59

This should finally really highlight to the RFU that they have to start getting some of these talented kids into the senior set-up.

Maybe today's new start is the start of that but i fear a big defeat could be on the cards as they rebuild and it'll take some time to win again.

Wales have really built on bringing their talented kids in and it's done wonders. Eng have to do the same.

The problem us at the youth levels for England, it's all about gym work and they don't actually play that much. Means they walk everyone else at the age grade level but find it harder to make the step up.

[still]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... guide.html

Thought the above was a good read.

[Something Fishy]

interesting. a lack of skill then? then they're going to stay in the bottom of the european tables and the 6n from now on then you reckon Donk?


seems a worry, if they're never going to be good enough the picture is bleak.

[Donk]

Highlights of the Scotland A vs Saxons match - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZbA7yN7S9w

[Donk]

interesting. a lack of skill then? then they're going to stay in the bottom of the european tables and the 6n from now on then you reckon Donk?


seems a worry, if they're never going to be good enough the picture is bleak.

I wouldn't say bottom. More I'd say that they'll rely more on the naturally amazing, like the Fodens and Manu Tuilagis, than a youth conveyor belt. However, England could and should be getting much more out of the grassroots.

[sawyerpip]

Really looking forward to the Scotland-England game today. I think Fishy is being slightly pessimistic when it comes to England's chances this year, but today should be a good indicator of where they are at.

[Something Fishy]

interesting. a lack of skill then? then they're going to stay in the bottom of the european tables and the 6n from now on then you reckon Donk?


seems a worry, if they're never going to be good enough the picture is bleak.

I wouldn't say bottom. More I'd say that they'll rely more on the naturally amazing, like the Fodens and Manu Tuilagis, than a youth conveyor belt. However, England could and should be getting much more out of the grassroots.

agree with that.

But then, in the past it always seemed that the Welsh youngsters (for instance as i saw them more down here) were much more developed than their Eng counterparts in skill terms but Eng managed to then develop those players. What your saying now is they build them as monsters when young but have no skill and no longer develop them later?

sounds actually like a hopeless situation and yet the union must have the resources to sort their game out surely? They might one day surprise all of us, sport does tend to go in cycles.

[Something Fishy]

Highlights of the Scotland A vs Saxons match - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZbA7yN7S9w

anything from the U20's?

[Kanbei]

Our under 20's did a number on the Welsh last night, it was 11-6 but it should have been far far more. Once Paddy Jackson (who was only a couple of years below me at school) sorts out his goal kicking he will be fantastic. His general play and kicking for position is excellent.

[Skippy]

Is the Scot/Eng still on for later? Lots of games being cancelled up there

[Delusibeta]

France v Italy live on BBC 1 now. Just about to kick off.

[sawyerpip]

I've been quite impressed with Italy today. Unfortunly France have scored two clinical tries with their limited opportunities, so the scoreboard doesn't quite reflect the first half.

[Donk]

The pidgeons.

[Lotus]

I wish they'd stop showing these zoomed-in shots of the players' boots, in slow motion. Show me the game, please.

Talking of the game...France looking good. Showing their class compared to Italy now, although Italy are still going and plugging away, showing some good stuff. Lovely skills on their last try.

[Something Fishy]

Scotland looking good for this. Can't lose can they.

[Kanbei]

So scrappy so far...

[Donk]

Commentators talking gooseberry fool about Hartleys penalty, and about scrummaging in general.

You can keep the pressure on if you pop up the other hooker, if you are underneath him. That's what saints did to Leinster in the HC final first half last year.

[Something Fishy]

Sad to hear them booing the kick again.