Activision Blizzard Sued By California Over Widespread Harassment Of Women

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PostRe: Activision Blizzard Sued By California Over Widespread Harassment Of Women
by Peter Crisp » Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:59 am

I must admit I was hugely tempted by Diablo 2 remake but I'll pass on that now as I have plenty of other options.

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PostRe: Activision Blizzard Sued By California Over Widespread Harassment Of Women
by Monkey Man » Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:08 pm

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PostRe: Activision Blizzard Sued By California Over Widespread Harassment Of Women
by Balladeer » Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:44 am

Tremendous to see the response.

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by Corazon de Leon » Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:55 am

jawaX wrote:
Corazon de Leon wrote:The best way to put pressure on Activision is to hurt their bottom line, Jawa. A company that sells millions of copies of Call of Duty every year isn't going to care a damn thing about picketers or social media rage unless it's followed by direct action. The second they see an impact on their bottom line and equate those lost sales with their corporate image, you'll see a very quick restructure and rebrand.

Tl;dr - do both. Tell everyone you're not going to buy an Activision game while they act so reprehensibly, and then don't buy their products until action is taken.

I wasn't suggesting that not buying wouldn't make any impact, Cora - but so few people will actually stop buying it that Activision probably won't change. As you say, they sell millions of copies of Call of Duty - if a few thousand folk stop buying, it won't make too much difference.

I was trying to make the very point you are saying - more direct action is needed! And, in today's social media-focussed society, that can be a platform for doing so. Not on its own, but it could be handy.


I think we're mostly in agreement, yeah! I just think that for consumers, it's going to be really important to send a strong message to Activision-Blizzard and the best way to do that is to not buy their products or spread the word about their products in any way.

It's a horrible thing to have to do, because it impacts a lot of innocent game developers who will have had nothing to do with what's being alleged, but for me it's necessary at this point.

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PostRe: Activision Blizzard Sued By California Over Widespread Harassment Of Women
by BID0 » Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:31 pm

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PostRe: Activision Blizzard Sued By California Over Widespread Harassment Of Women
by Gemini73 » Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:53 pm

Balladeer wrote:Tremendous to see the response.


Indeed, but the likes of Eurogamer, IGN, Kotaku etc also need to get on board given their clout.

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PostRe: Activision Blizzard Sued By California Over Widespread Harassment Of Women
by Balladeer » Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:01 pm

(hollow laughter)

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PostRe: Activision Blizzard Sued By California Over Widespread Harassment Of Women
by Gemini73 » Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:22 pm

Balladeer wrote:(hollow laughter)


:lol:

I think a lot of these big gaming sites talk the talk, but when a real opportunity to stand firm and say enough is enough they don't walk the walk.

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PostRe: Activision Blizzard Sued By California Over Widespread Harassment Of Women
by Balladeer » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:28 pm

I was talking to Chris Scullion (formerly of ONM) about this on his Discord. He feels like he has a duty to report the gaming news, such as it is. While I can understand that, my view is that there's nothing to stop every article on ActiBlizz starting with 'Activision Blizzard, who are currently involved in a court case for treating women like crap, released a new game today etc. etc.'

The reality I suspect is that the sites you mention, even if not all the individuals working for them, prize keeping the shitty big companies on-side to get interviews and review code over doing something like that.

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by Gemini73 » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:48 pm

The reality I suspect is that the sites you mention, even if not all the individuals working for them, prize keeping the shitty big companies on-side to get interviews and review code over doing something like that.


If there is any truth to that then the reality is the moral crusading found on these sites, even at an individual level, however sincere, is now looking quite redundant. At worst it makes the likes of Eurogamer and Kotaku, for example, look like their just pushing for clicks at the behest of their respective publishers as opposed to actually believing in what they're writing. Of course I've no doubt that isn't the case for many of those who contribute, but that's what it looks like, certainly now that other gaming sites, boards and channels have stood up and firmly stated enough is enough.

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PostRe: Activision Blizzard Sued By California Over Widespread Harassment Of Women
by Met » Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:40 pm

Following the 1000+ (at my last checking) open letter from Blizzard employees calling their statement bullshit, and them halting work on their games in protest, I'm seeing that they're now planning a mass walkout and strike outside the offices.

Also, it's ok guys, they're making changes to WoW to fix this mess. Please forgive them.

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PostRe: Activision Blizzard Sued By California Over Widespread Harassment Of Women
by Peter Crisp » Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:02 am

They need to have a complete overhaul at the top or they are going to face a mass exodus of staff and be in legal trouble for years.

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PostRe: Activision Blizzard Sued By California Over Widespread Harassment Of Women
by BID0 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:21 am

Hopefully the walkout gets a lot of support and shows other teams that it's time to unionise and eat the rich :datass:

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by Corazon de Leon » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:58 am

Unionisation? In America? :lol:

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by BID0 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:18 am

Corazon de Leon wrote:Unionisation? In America? :lol:

:cry:

Well I meant more as a worldwide movement... but I don't see why it wouldn't be possible in America if an entire team is striking and other groups of developers see that and take collective action too. There would not be much a publisher could really do to stop it if it becomes a widespread thing

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PostRe: Activision Blizzard Sued By California Over Widespread Harassment Of Women
by Zilnad » Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:33 am

I know it probably doesn't matter all that much but I uninstalled Overwatch and Battlepass this morning and don't imagine I'll ever install it again. Only bought the game last month but the novelty of playing with friends quickly ran out anyway :lol: And I'd feel uncomfortable giving them business now, same with Ubisoft.

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PostRe: Activision Blizzard Sued By California Over Widespread Harassment Of Women
by Balladeer » Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:38 am

Poor timing, Zilnad: everything's just been solved.

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I presume that you all, like me, have complete faith in the bastion of integrity that is Bobby Kotick.

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PostRe: Activision Blizzard Sued By California Over Widespread Harassment Of Women
by Xeno » Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:13 am

Balladeer wrote:Poor timing, Zilnad: everything's just been solved.

twitter.com/VGC_News/status/1420304539580837888



I presume that you all, like me, have complete faith in the bastion of integrity that is Bobby Kotick.


Complete faith, there is no way the the honourable Mr Kotick lost a court case for sexual harassment and retaliatory sacking.

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PostRe: Activision Blizzard Sued By California Over Widespread Harassment Of Women
by Gemini73 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:11 pm

Share prices start to fall, Kotick breaks silence. Coincidence? Surely not?

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PostRe: Activision Blizzard Sued By California Over Widespread Harassment Of Women
by Xeno » Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:24 pm

Gemini73 wrote:Share prices start to fall, Kotick breaks silence. Coincidence? Surely not?


There is an Q2 earning call next Tuesday. Might be interesting.


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