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Re: Adblockers are not allowed on YouTube
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:53 am
by Pedz
If you are paying for YouTube premium are the videos you are watching getting a cut or does it all go to youtube?
Re: Adblockers are not allowed on YouTube
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:55 am
by Vermilion
Pedz wrote:If you are paying for YouTube premium are the videos you are watching getting a cut or does it all go to youtube?
I've found that i do get a small cut from people who are using premium, certainly isn't very much though.
Re: Adblockers are not allowed on YouTube
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:05 am
by Knoyleo
Youtube premium coming bundled with youtube music actually puts me off the service even more. I used to subscribe to Google play music, which had an excellent feature that let you upload your own music files to Google storage, and then you could play those songs by those artists alongside their own streaming catalogue. They even appeared in normal search results, so artists who only maybe had part of their catalogue online would have the "missing" albums appears so long as you had uploaded it, and it was all seamlessly integrated, no segregated "your music" section that others have if you want to play local files off your phone or whatever. But when they moved to YT music, this feature got cut, and the rest of the YT music experience is pretty poor, with the music quality suffering and a focus on video content, which isn't what I want from a music app.
Re: Adblockers are not allowed on YouTube
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:47 am
by jiggles
Knoyleo wrote:Youtube premium coming bundled with youtube music actually puts me off the service even more. I used to subscribe to Google play music, which had an excellent feature that let you upload your own music files to Google storage, and then you could play those songs by those artists alongside their own streaming catalogue. They even appeared in normal search results, so artists who only maybe had part of their catalogue online would have the "missing" albums appears so long as you had uploaded it, and it was all seamlessly integrated, no segregated "your music" section that others have if you want to play local files off your phone or whatever. But when they moved to YT music, this feature got cut, and the rest of the YT music experience is pretty poor, with the music quality suffering and a focus on video content, which isn't what I want from a music app.
Apple offer this feature exactly as you describe, (and I think Amazon do too?) if you were looking for a service that still does it.
I have the cheapo Argentina YT premium sub at (currently) £1.68 a month for the family plan, so I don’t really care that it comes with music. Happy to ignore it at that price.
Re: Adblockers are not allowed on YouTube
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:58 am
by Roonmastor
How would one get an Argentine YT family plan?
Re: Adblockers are not allowed on YouTube
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:03 am
by Moggy
Roonmastor wrote:How would one get an Argentine YT family plan?
You have to chant "las Malvinas son Argentinas" 3 times into a mirror.
Re: Adblockers are not allowed on YouTube
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:14 pm
by jiggles
Roonmastor wrote:How would one get an Argentine YT family plan?
I can’t remember the exact steps, but you need to have a Mastercard and a VPN. I used my Revolut card. If you remove all the payment info from your Google account, change your address to any old Argentina address and hop on a VPN to Buenos Aires, when you try to register for the service it asks you to set up payment, at which point you can use the same address and the payment *should* be minor enough that they don’t verify it.
Google’s payment account stuff sort of lives separately from all their services, and it allows multi-regional setup. So once you have the recurring payment up and running you just dump the VPN, change your Google account details back to UK, and use everything just as normal. It doesn’t matter that the payment info doesn’t match your account info. It doesn’t even matter if you add additional payment info back in for the UK and set that to your default. Your YT premium sub continues to charge to the “Argentina” card.
Re: Adblockers are not allowed on YouTube
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:41 pm
by Knoyleo
jiggles wrote:Knoyleo wrote:Youtube premium coming bundled with youtube music actually puts me off the service even more. I used to subscribe to Google play music, which had an excellent feature that let you upload your own music files to Google storage, and then you could play those songs by those artists alongside their own streaming catalogue. They even appeared in normal search results, so artists who only maybe had part of their catalogue online would have the "missing" albums appears so long as you had uploaded it, and it was all seamlessly integrated, no segregated "your music" section that others have if you want to play local files off your phone or whatever. But when they moved to YT music, this feature got cut, and the rest of the YT music experience is pretty poor, with the music quality suffering and a focus on video content, which isn't what I want from a music app.
Apple offer this feature exactly as you describe, (and I think Amazon do too?) if you were looking for a service that still does it.
Did not know this, thanks!
Re: Adblockers are not allowed on YouTube
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 1:34 pm
by jiggles
Knoyleo wrote:jiggles wrote:Knoyleo wrote:Youtube premium coming bundled with youtube music actually puts me off the service even more. I used to subscribe to Google play music, which had an excellent feature that let you upload your own music files to Google storage, and then you could play those songs by those artists alongside their own streaming catalogue. They even appeared in normal search results, so artists who only maybe had part of their catalogue online would have the "missing" albums appears so long as you had uploaded it, and it was all seamlessly integrated, no segregated "your music" section that others have if you want to play local files off your phone or whatever. But when they moved to YT music, this feature got cut, and the rest of the YT music experience is pretty poor, with the music quality suffering and a focus on video content, which isn't what I want from a music app.
Apple offer this feature exactly as you describe, (and I think Amazon do too?) if you were looking for a service that still does it.
Did not know this, thanks!
Yeah, it surprised me too because they don’t really make a song and dance about it. But I suppose it is very Apple to have synergy across their service offerings that you don’t need to really think about. You just add the files to your Apple Music library on your computer, have cloud sync on and that’s it.
The limit is apparently 100,000 songs of your own with 200MB being the max file size per song, but I’m a far cry from that just uploading my deluxe edition game OSTs.
Re: Adblockers are not allowed on YouTube
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:21 pm
by Outrunner
I disabled my ad blocker because i was curious as to how bad youtube is these days, god the ads are intrusive. And to top it off, I
still got the message about turning of my ad blocker despite it being turned off already. Truly the worst of both worlds
Re: Adblockers are not allowed on YouTube
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:23 pm
by Preezy
Last week or so my adblocker had worked but today I've had the same message coming up again so YT are obviously working hard to counter the blocker - must be like playing whack-a-mole.
Re: Adblockers are not allowed on YouTube
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:27 pm
by Imrahil
I've yet to have a single message. I'm using AdBlock Plus with Firefox, plus I have NoScript blocking a couple of things on Youtube (doubleclick.net and one of the googleapis.com sites).
Maybe that's interfering with their AdBlock checker?
Re: Adblockers are not allowed on YouTube
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:30 pm
by Preezy
Imrahil wrote:I've yet to have a single message. I'm using AdBlock Plus with Firefox, plus I have NoScript blocking a couple of things on Youtube (doubleclick.net and one of the googleapis.com sites).
Maybe that's interfering with their AdBlock checker?
I'm on Chrome with just the vanilla AdBlock, don't really know how to do all that other fancy stuff.
Re: Adblockers are not allowed on YouTube
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:34 pm
by Imrahil
Preezy wrote:Imrahil wrote:I've yet to have a single message. I'm using AdBlock Plus with Firefox, plus I have NoScript blocking a couple of things on Youtube (doubleclick.net and one of the googleapis.com sites).
Maybe that's interfering with their AdBlock checker?
I'm on Chrome with just the vanilla AdBlock, don't really know how to do all that other fancy stuff.
Yeah, I'm not sure if Chrome allows Script-blocking to the same degree as Firefox, it's been so long since I've used it.
It's fairly straightforward to install on Fireflox, just a few clicks and you're away.
Re: Adblockers are not allowed on YouTube
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:56 pm
by Outrunner
Imrahil wrote:Preezy wrote:Imrahil wrote:I've yet to have a single message. I'm using AdBlock Plus with Firefox, plus I have NoScript blocking a couple of things on Youtube (doubleclick.net and one of the googleapis.com sites).
Maybe that's interfering with their AdBlock checker?
I'm on Chrome with just the vanilla AdBlock, don't really know how to do all that other fancy stuff.
Yeah, I'm not sure if Chrome allows Script-blocking to the same degree as Firefox, it's been so long since I've used it.
It's fairly straightforward to install on Fireflox, just a few clicks and you're away.
Pretty screwed on that front since I have a Chromebook. No firefox goodness for me
Re: Adblockers are not allowed on YouTube
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 4:01 pm
by site23
uBlock Origin on Firefox here, still haven't had any issues. (I usually don't get ads on Twitch either!)
Re: Adblockers are not allowed on YouTube
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 4:45 pm
by <]:^D
Imrahil wrote:I've yet to have a single message. I'm using AdBlock Plus with Firefox, plus I have NoScript blocking a couple of things on Youtube (doubleclick.net and one of the googleapis.com sites).
Maybe that's interfering with their AdBlock checker?
ooh this is a good idea, lemme go install noscript again
Re: Adblockers are not allowed on YouTube
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 5:18 pm
by Ironhide
site23 wrote:uBlock Origin on Firefox here, still haven't had any issues. (I usually don't get ads on Twitch either!)
Same, very rarely see ads anywhere with it.
Re: Adblockers are not allowed on YouTube
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 5:39 pm
by Imrahil
Looking into it, it does seem some Firefox users with NoScript are getting the messages too. So I guess it's just a matter of time until the phased rollout hits everyone.
Re: Adblockers are not allowed on YouTube
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:29 pm
by Moggy
"Thanks for watching! Don't forget to like and subscribe."
YouTubers urging fans to click the thumbs-up button is almost a cliche by now, and the website's unofficial slogan is about to get an update.
The site's adding animations that flash up when a content creator says the words "like" and "subscribe" in a video.
And when you "smash that button", according to Google, you'll be rewarded with a shower of "playful sparkles".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-67137492
