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Re: Alternative history

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:18 pm
by Lex-Man
LightWanderer wrote:
Moggy wrote:
LightWanderer wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:Can we take anything with us?


Yes but only stuff that can fit into a DeLorean.


Okay. That includes a mobile phone. I'd film the key moments from the final days of Jesus' life, including his death and whatever happened to him after it.
Whether you believe he was the Messiah or not, video proof one way or the other would prevent a lot of wars.


I think you’re underestimating just how much religious people will deny reality. It’d be pretty easy for them to just say “that’s fake footage”.

Plus the thread is about what you’d change, not what you’d film for a modern audience. ;)


I wouldn't film it for a modern audience. I'd show it to the people who were around at the time of Christ. They all know what Jesus looks like so will be pretty impossible to say it was faked.

If it doesn't count, then I would change history by making the Treaty of Versailles be a lot kinder to the Germans




I would go back in time and tell the British forces that George Washington was crossing the Delaware so he'd be crushed and the US would stay under British control. That or get George III to give the US colonies representation in the houses of parliament. Mainly because I would want to see what happened as the US's influence grow as the population grew and they because the more powerful part of the Union.

EDIT: there is such a large amount of history that is totally unknown to us, I'd like to play with that. When Persia was at war with Greece, Persia was fighting another war with an opponent we know literally nothing about. I'm sure I could so something with that.

Or what about stopping Genghis Khan dying when he did so Batu Khan continued his invasion of Europe.

Re: Alternative history

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:41 pm
by SEP
Curls wrote:I'd go back and Tell David Cameron to take his brexit campaign seriously. Or go back to 2009 and tell labour to actually campaign well for the election.


Just slap that strawberry floating sandwich out of Milliband's hand.

Re: Alternative history

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:45 pm
by Moggy
Somebody Else's Problem wrote:
Curls wrote:I'd go back and Tell David Cameron to take his brexit campaign seriously. Or go back to 2009 and tell labour to actually campaign well for the election.


Just slap that strawberry floating sandwich out of Milliband's hand.


And use a big stone to do it so that he develops a stone phobia.

Re: Alternative history

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:51 pm
by Alvin Flummux
3. Prevent the assassination of Gaius Julius Caesar, allowing him to bring the rest of Europe and the Caucasus region under Roman rule.

2. Expose the entire Culper Ring of spies during the American War of Independence. Without eyes behind enemy lines, the rebels are blinded. Without the ability to interfere with British naval communications, Yorktown becomes another British victory, and the war carries on.

1. Send the Duke of Wellington to America during the War of 1812. With his expert generalship, Britain stands a chance of winning.

Re: Alternative history

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:02 pm
by Moggy
Alvin Flummux wrote:1. Send the Duke of Wellington to America during the War of 1812. With his expert generalship, Britain stands a chance of winning.


The Duke gets killed in America, Napoleon wins the peninsula war and Britain and the British Empire become part of the French Empire for the next 600 years.

But you stopped Brexit so I’ll give your scenario 8/10.

Re: Alternative history

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:59 pm
by Oblomov Boblomov
Go to the Garden of Eden and tell Adam to check his male privilege.

Re: Alternative history

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:01 am
by Corazon de Leon
Alvin Flummux wrote:3. Prevent the assassination of Gaius Julius Caesar, allowing him to bring the rest of Europe and the Caucasus region under Roman rule.

2. Expose the entire Culper Ring of spies during the American War of Independence. Without eyes behind enemy lines, the rebels are blinded. Without the ability to interfere with British naval communications, Yorktown becomes another British victory, and the war carries on.

1. Send the Duke of Wellington to America during the War of 1812. With his expert generalship, Britain stands a chance of winning.


That’s a very imperialistic of list of changes. :slol:

Re: Alternative history

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:12 am
by Moggy
I would go back 300,000 years to Africa and take the place of Y-chromosomal Adam. Not only would I get some hot stone age action, but I would also be your great great great etc grandfather so you better damn well respect your old grandpa.

Re: Alternative history

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:30 pm
by Alvin Flummux
Corazon de Leon wrote:That’s a very imperialistic of list of changes. :slol:


Alarmingly so. :slol:

Another couple...

1. Introduce European diseases to the Americas via the Viking settlement at Vinland. Population crash is followed by recovery, immune systems learn to cope, and when the Spanish, Portuguese, English and French arrive, they are not confronted by disease-emptied continents or diminished tribes, but by strong, healthy nations.

2. Let the Vikings explore down the North American coast, establishing settlements and introducing metalworking and other crafts to the continent. Hybrid states emerge and the world is forever changed by this 11th century contact.

Re: Alternative history

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:37 pm
by Peter Crisp
Can I somehow stop the asteroid from killing the dinosaurs?

Re: Alternative history

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:15 pm
by Lex-Man
Peter Crisp wrote:Can I somehow stop the asteroid from killing the dinosaurs?


You could fly the car into the asteroid.

Re: Alternative history

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:20 pm
by That
If you really want to accelerate history, telling the ancient Greeks how to use the aeolipile as a steam engine would have probably resulted in an industrialised Roman Empire. I can only imagine we'd now be 1,500 years "ahead" of where we are technologically.

Re: Alternative history

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:35 pm
by Moggy
Karl_ wrote:If you really want to accelerate history, telling the ancient Greeks how to use the aeolipile as a steam engine would have probably resulted in an industrialised Roman Empire. I can only imagine we'd now be 1,500 years "ahead" of where we are technologically.


Or climate change might have killed us all in 600AD.

Re: Alternative history

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:39 pm
by Victor Mildew
Moggy wrote:
Karl_ wrote:If you really want to accelerate history, telling the ancient Greeks how to use the aeolipile as a steam engine would have probably resulted in an industrialised Roman Empire. I can only imagine we'd now be 1,500 years "ahead" of where we are technologically.


Or climate change might have killed us all in 600AD.


Dat PlayStation 2330 though :datass:

Re: Alternative history

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:24 pm
by Corazon de Leon
Lex-Man wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:Can I somehow stop the asteroid from killing the dinosaurs?


You could fly the car into the asteroid.


No, take Bruce Willis and a giant drill back with you.

Re: Alternative history

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:15 am
by Moggy
I’d go back to the early 70s and kill Steven Spielberg and George Lucas.

What would movies be like now without Spielberg and Lucas?

Re: Alternative history

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:10 pm
by Alvin Flummux
Moggy wrote:I’d go back to the early 70s and kill Steven Spielberg and George Lucas.

What would movies be like now without Spielberg and Lucas?


Worse.

Re: Alternative history

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:22 pm
by Moggy
Alvin Flummux wrote:
Moggy wrote:I’d go back to the early 70s and kill Steven Spielberg and George Lucas.

What would movies be like now without Spielberg and Lucas?


Worse.


You think? Spielberg is an amazing director and Star Wars/Indiana Jones wouldn’t happen without Lucas, but they did usher in the age of the blockbuster. Their imitators (and Lucas himself) have been responsible for some utter gooseberry fool.

Without Jaws and Star Wars creating the modern blockbusters, would we have seen the late 70s and 80s become an era of indie/thoughtful films and those movies continuing to be more commercially viable?

Re: Alternative history

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:08 pm
by Abacus
Does this place count as social media?

Anyway, I'd go back a couple of years and stop the Undertaker losing to Roman Reigns at Wrestlemania, for crying out loud.

I'd also like to watch them build the pyramids to prove it wasn't aliens. And I'd like to see what they were playing at with Stonehenge, come to that. But, then again, I'm not changing anything there so that doesn't count.

So, I would go to Easter Island and tell them not to put them big stupid faces up and just do an egg hunt instead.

No, wait! I'd go to South America and stop the conquistadors burning all the texts and artwork. Probably the single greatest act of vandalism in human history.

As for what would change? Well, I expect we'd find a few new recipes for absolutely banging chicken fajitas at the very least

Re: Alternative history

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:10 pm
by Pedz
Abacus wrote:Does this place count as social media?

Anyway, I'd go back a couple of years and stop the Undertaker losing to Roman Reigns at Wrestlemania, for crying out loud.

I'd also like to watch them build the pyramids to prove it wasn't aliens. And I'd like to see what they were playing at with Stonehenge, come to that. But, then again, I'm not changing anything there so that doesn't count.

So, I would go to Easter Island and tell them not to put them big stupid faces up and just do an egg hunt instead.

No, wait! I'd go to South America and stop the conquistadors burning all the texts and artwork. Probably the single greatest act of vandalism in human history.

As for what would change? Well, I expect we'd find a few new recipes for absolutely banging chicken fajitas at the very least


This here forum is anti-social Media.