Amazon announce Lord of the Rings TV series, set before Fellowship

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by Ad7 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:00 pm

So what's an elf?

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PostRe: Amazon announce Lord of the Rings TV series, set before Fellowship
by Moggy » Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:01 pm

Ad7 wrote:So what's an elf?


It's when a Will Farrell has sex with a Zooey Deschanel.

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by Photek » Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:03 pm

Whats a goblin then?

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by Moggy » Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:04 pm

Photek wrote:Whats a goblin then?


An annoying shouty angry person from Dublin.

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PostRe: Amazon announce Lord of the Rings TV series, set before Fellowship
by Denster » Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:44 pm

Moggy wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:It does look like a much more interesting time period, that's true.

What's going on with Dwarves, Humans and Halflings during this time? I assume that, with the Elves being dominant, they're living in small enclaves, or on the fringes of the world? And I would guess that the Dwarves probably already have mighty subterranean citadels.

Also, will we see Amon Hen in its prime? :o


I am not sure that Halflings will exist in the world. If they do they are very unimportant.

Men are pretty much where they always are. Some good, some bad, some inbetween. The most powerful men are living in Numenor but they continue to travel back to Middle Earth to teach and guide the other men. At least at first they do, later on as Numenor starts to fall they are more about conquering and enslaving. As this is set before the Ring was forged and before Gondor existed, I don’t think we will see Amon Hen, unless that’s right at the end of the series.

Elves are far more numerous and powerful than they are in LoTR, but they are not the power they were in the First Age. Elven kingdoms will be the most powerful in Middle Earth, but they are diminishing.

Dwarves are a decent power and Khazad-Dum is still a thriving city. I can’t remember when they disturb the Balrog, but I think that was in the Third Age, I guess they might add in the Balrog kicking the gooseberry fool out of the dwarves.

God I am such a geek. :lol:

Yes but a strawberry floating cool one.

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If they show Elendil landing in Middle Earth and saying those words I'll.probably cry.




Having been sceptical. I have to say I'm a little excited now with his they've teased this. It could be awful still buy they've chosen a decent era.

So many great moments.

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PostRe: Amazon announce Lord of the Rings TV series, set before Fellowship
by Denster » Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:48 pm

:shock:

Ooh. Telchar forging Narsil for Elendil.

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PostRe: Amazon announce Lord of the Rings TV series, set before Fellowship
by Moggy » Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:05 pm

Shelob turning from a sexy woman into a spider!

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PostRe: Amazon announce Lord of the Rings TV series, set before Fellowship
by Alvin Flummux » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:18 pm

Moggy wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:It does look like a much more interesting time period, that's true.

What's going on with Dwarves, Humans and Halflings during this time? I assume that, with the Elves being dominant, they're living in small enclaves, or on the fringes of the world? And I would guess that the Dwarves probably already have mighty subterranean citadels.

Also, will we see Amon Hen in its prime? :o


I am not sure that Halflings will exist in the world. If they do they are very unimportant.

Men are pretty much where they always are. Some good, some bad, some inbetween. The most powerful men are living in Numenor but they continue to travel back to Middle Earth to teach and guide the other men. At least at first they do, later on as Numenor starts to fall they are more about conquering and enslaving. As this is set before the Ring was forged and before Gondor existed, I don’t think we will see Amon Hen, unless that’s right at the end of the series.

Elves are far more numerous and powerful than they are in LoTR, but they are not the power they were in the First Age. Elven kingdoms will be the most powerful in Middle Earth, but they are diminishing.

Dwarves are a decent power and Khazad-Dum is still a thriving city. I can’t remember when they disturb the Balrog, but I think that was in the Third Age, I guess they might add in the Balrog kicking the gooseberry fool out of the dwarves.

God I am such a geek. :lol:


Hey, I appreciate your geekery!

When were the Halflings created, then? I know they may be unimportant in this age, and in most others, but their outsized importance in the main stories of the Hobbit and LotR should ensure some kind of reference, even if only in passing.

So humans are living where they normally do, they have kingdoms, but their power pales in comparison to the Elves?

The Balrog disturbance happens between the Hobbit and LotR, doesn't it? Gimli seemed pretty devastated to find Moria a tomb, so he must've seen it alive and well recently.

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PostRe: Amazon announce Lord of the Rings TV series, set before Fellowship
by Moggy » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:26 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:It does look like a much more interesting time period, that's true.

What's going on with Dwarves, Humans and Halflings during this time? I assume that, with the Elves being dominant, they're living in small enclaves, or on the fringes of the world? And I would guess that the Dwarves probably already have mighty subterranean citadels.

Also, will we see Amon Hen in its prime? :o


I am not sure that Halflings will exist in the world. If they do they are very unimportant.

Men are pretty much where they always are. Some good, some bad, some inbetween. The most powerful men are living in Numenor but they continue to travel back to Middle Earth to teach and guide the other men. At least at first they do, later on as Numenor starts to fall they are more about conquering and enslaving. As this is set before the Ring was forged and before Gondor existed, I don’t think we will see Amon Hen, unless that’s right at the end of the series.

Elves are far more numerous and powerful than they are in LoTR, but they are not the power they were in the First Age. Elven kingdoms will be the most powerful in Middle Earth, but they are diminishing.

Dwarves are a decent power and Khazad-Dum is still a thriving city. I can’t remember when they disturb the Balrog, but I think that was in the Third Age, I guess they might add in the Balrog kicking the gooseberry fool out of the dwarves.

God I am such a geek. :lol:


Hey, I appreciate your geekery!

When were the Halflings created, then? I know they may be unimportant in this age, and in most others, but their outsized importance in the main stories of the Hobbit and LotR should ensure some kind of reference, even if only in passing.

So humans are living where they normally do, they have kingdoms, but their power pales in comparison to the Elves?

The Balrog disturbance happens between the Hobbit and LotR, doesn't it? Gimli seemed pretty devastated to find Moria a tomb, so he must've seen it alive and well recently.


Nobody knows where the Halflings came from. They are a type of men, but Eru only knows when. They are not really spoken of until the events of the Hobbit and the Shire certainly wasn’t around in the Second Age.

Men are around and will either be in independent kingdoms or will be living under the Elves. Numenor is a kingdom of men and is a great power but it is a long long way from Middle Earth.

The Balrog destroyed Moria long before the events of the Hobbit. Balin went back to Moria to reclaim it, the Dwarves figured the Balrog was gone/dead or that they could overpower it. The death of Smaug and reclaiming the Lonely Mountain made them a little overconfident.

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PostRe: Amazon announce Lord of the Rings TV series, set before Fellowship
by suzzopher » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:40 pm

Moggy, making me fall more and more in love with him :datass:

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by Moggy » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:45 pm

suzzopher wrote:Moggy, making me fall more and more in love with him :datass:


I’ll show you my Narsil if you show me your Anduril. :datass:

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by suzzopher » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:46 pm

Moggy wrote:
suzzopher wrote:Moggy, making me fall more and more in love with him :datass:


I’ll show you my Narsil if you show me your Anduril. :datass:


You dirty bastard :wub:

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PostRe: Amazon announce Lord of the Rings TV series, set before Fellowship
by Jenuall » Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:38 pm

Is anyone from the Tolkien estate involved in making sure this doesn’t turn out gooseberry fool? Do they have any control or input into stuff like this anymore?

I know Christopher wasn’t exactly impressed with what Jackson did in terms of the movies.

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by Denster » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:11 pm

Moggy wrote:
suzzopher wrote:Moggy, making me fall more and more in love with him :datass:


I’ll show you my Narsil if you show me your Anduril. :datass:

Just shush and grasp the shaft of my Aeglos

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by Denster » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:13 pm

Jenuall wrote:Is anyone from the Tolkien estate involved in making sure this doesn’t turn out gooseberry fool? Do they have any control or input into stuff like this anymore?

I know Christopher wasn’t exactly impressed with what Jackson did in terms of the movies.

I think he has passed on the Baton to a more amenable relative

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by Moggy » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:20 pm

Denster wrote:
Moggy wrote:
suzzopher wrote:Moggy, making me fall more and more in love with him :datass:


I’ll show you my Narsil if you show me your Anduril. :datass:

Just shush and grasp the shaft of my Aeglos


Squeeze my Silmarils and I’ll take your Gurthang.

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PostRe: Amazon announce Lord of the Rings TV series, set before Fellowship
by Denster » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:30 pm

Ah. My Mellon.

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by Alvin Flummux » Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:20 am

Moggy wrote:Nobody knows where the Halflings came from. They are a type of men, but Eru only knows when. They are not really spoken of until the events of the Hobbit and the Shire certainly wasn’t around in the Second Age.

Men are around and will either be in independent kingdoms or will be living under the Elves. Numenor is a kingdom of men and is a great power but it is a long long way from Middle Earth.

The Balrog destroyed Moria long before the events of the Hobbit. Balin went back to Moria to reclaim it, the Dwarves figured the Balrog was gone/dead or that they could overpower it. The death of Smaug and reclaiming the Lonely Mountain made them a little overconfident.


The Shire might not have existed, but the area that would become it certainly did. I could easily see the story moving through Eriador and showing a possible Halfling settlement, maybe an off-the-cuff reference or some such to the "little people" or whatever they might've been known as at the time. I just don't think the producers or writers of the show would pass up an opportunity to reference them, given how iconic they are in the lore.

Numenor is a kingdom of men? Hmm, you know, I always kinda figured it for another Elven kingdom. Shows what I know, I guess. :slol: I hope we get to see it. I'm sure we will. It was in the map included in the tweet, after all.

Oh, now that I did not know! I thought it was active and in its prime until betwixt the Hobbit and LotR, until a Balrog was awakened and ruined everything. I guess I was only partly right.

Hope this group gets to be included in the show. :wub:


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PostRe: Amazon announce Lord of the Rings TV series, set before Fellowship
by Moggy » Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:50 am

Well yeah the land that becomes the Shire exists, but there won’t be any Hobbits living there.


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