Amazon's Fallout TV Show - Whole 1st season out now!!. 93% on RT. Renewed for Season 2.

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by satriales » Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:37 am

Finished it, thought it was excellent!!

I'm not a huge fan of the games, I liked the world and exploration but never cared for the story, characters, and Bethesda jankiness. The show takes all the bits I liked and improves on the things I didn't.

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by Victor Mildew » Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:14 am

Finished it last night. I felt it was excellent right up until the last episode, which I found pretty weak especially as they did one of my pet hates with a finale (as happend with rings of power) where they just have a character explain the plot in great detail rather than play it out organically through the story.

I also had the final shot spoiled by some banana split posting a picture of it in an unrelated topic somewhere :simper:

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by Zilnad » Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:54 pm

Finished. That final shot teasing season 2 :o :msgreen:

I'm so hyped for it!

Vault Tec dropping the bombs... I really like it, it feels very current and depressingly believable. But I also really don't like it because it changes the lore dramatically and perhaps feels a little too pantomime, Vault Tec being responsible for absolutely everything, rather than just weird vault experiments on the back of the apocalypse.


Loved it overall and hoping for an even stronger season 2.

I'd be quite happy with a "quest of the week" format for a bit to really build out the world.

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by LewisD » Sun Apr 21, 2024 3:33 pm

Just don't forget that while you're happy with the series, we were actually robbed of what it should have been:

FALLOUT 4: GEORDIE APOCALYPSE


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by Kriken » Sun Apr 21, 2024 10:38 pm

Just watched episode 1 and liked it a lot. The preview of the rest of the season got me excited to see the rest of it. Also watching X-Men 97 and other stuff atm but should have it wrapped up before my Prime trial ends in a few days.

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by aayl1 » Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:14 am

I don't really get season previews - I'm watching the show don't spoil it for me!

But I guess they work and some people like em, no big deal I can just skip them.

Up to the end of Episode 5 now and to me (a fairweather fan of Fallout 3 and NV) it feels very Falloutty, like it could be a story to the next game. Or rather, someone telling you their route through the game; "I left the vault chasing the raiders who took my dildo lol and ran into a guy who needed me to do this thing, but at the next town a fight kicked off coz they wanted something he had and then all of a sudden this crazy thing happened etc. etc.

There's moments where they really sit with the choices the characters have at certain moments. The show sets up dramatic irony fairly well via clever world building and backstory scenes to increase tension when characters meet and make it obvious to us there's decisions to be made with various implications to each character's fate and desires. Which feels Falloutty, to me at least.

Only note I have thus far is the Lucy should have (Ep 5 minor character status spoilers) scanned Maximus with the Pip boy and it should have shown the cartoon dude with the left arm voided out a la the game.

Enjoying it with the intrigue in the vault sections and don't dislike the Brotherhood of Steel sections as much as some people seem to!

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by Kriken » Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:49 am

I mean they're basically like any other kind of trailer. Not especially more spoilery. Just a taste of what's next. And it can be fun to speculate about the stuff that is shown. Yeah you're already watching the show, but typically you'd watch trailers for something you're planning to watch or play regardless. Obviously some people like to go in blind though and I get why.

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by Tomous » Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:17 am

aayl1 wrote:I don't really get season previews - I'm watching the show don't spoil it for me!



I agree, I guess they're trying to hook people in who are still 50/50 but I would have thought most people would have decided whether they're in or out after watching a full episode.

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by Imrahil » Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:23 am

Yeah, I can maybe understand people who aren't sure whether to continue might be persuaded to do so with previews.

But if you know you're going to watch the show and don't need convincing, watching next episode previews is like shooting yourself in the foot. You're just ruining any surprises for no reason.

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by Gideon » Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:37 pm

Zilnad wrote:Finished. That final shot teasing season 2 :o :msgreen:

I'm so hyped for it!

Vault Tec dropping the bombs... I really like it, it feels very current and depressingly believable. But I also really don't like it because it changes the lore dramatically and perhaps feels a little too pantomime, Vault Tec being responsible for absolutely everything, rather than just weird vault experiments on the back of the apocalypse.


Loved it overall and hoping for an even stronger season 2.

I'd be quite happy with a "quest of the week" format for a bit to really build out the world.


Regarding your spoilered bit:

I’d always assumed Vault Tec had a hand in pushing the world towards war, or at least gave an inevitable war the last push it needed to get started. They’ve been comically evil since the beginning, and the entire vault project was built on the knowledge that the world would end - half of the experimental vaults wouldn’t have made any sense and would have been uncovered had the bombs not dropped when they did.

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by Zilnad » Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:02 pm

Gideon wrote:
Zilnad wrote:Finished. That final shot teasing season 2 :o :msgreen:

I'm so hyped for it!

Vault Tec dropping the bombs... I really like it, it feels very current and depressingly believable. But I also really don't like it because it changes the lore dramatically and perhaps feels a little too pantomime, Vault Tec being responsible for absolutely everything, rather than just weird vault experiments on the back of the apocalypse.


Loved it overall and hoping for an even stronger season 2.

I'd be quite happy with a "quest of the week" format for a bit to really build out the world.


Regarding your spoilered bit:

I’d always assumed Vault Tec had a hand in pushing the world towards war, or at least gave an inevitable war the last push it needed to get started. They’ve been comically evil since the beginning, and the entire vault project was built on the knowledge that the world would end - half of the experimental vaults wouldn’t have made any sense and would have been uncovered had the bombs not dropped when they did.


All very good points. I suppose the show hasn't 100% confirmed the case either, just heavily suggested it with that line. I'm not completely against it like some people and I'm coming round to it even more now.

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by Imrahil » Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:49 pm

Finished it. That was great fun!

Some minor nitpicks here and there, but it's just all so enjoyable. I think the main storyline was perhaps a bit anaemic at times, up until the final episode - it could have done with an extra couple of episodes to play out the conclusion. They were all still fun by themselves though, I don't remember a single bad one.

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I didn't mind them playing more into the sinister idea of Vault-Tec causing nukes to drop in the first place. It works well in the limited confines of a TV series I think.

Moldaver needed much more time in the show. She's essential to everything. Plus I wanted to know more about how she got into cryostasis for 200 years when she was basically the enemy of Vault-Tec. It just needed fleshing out a lot more.

For a game adaptation it was very good, although I'd still put HBO's The Last of Us ahead of it. That show's storyline had a much bigger impact on me and I was more invested in the characters, but I'm amazed at how close Fallout got to it. I never would have predicted that.

8.5/10

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by Zilnad » Tue Apr 23, 2024 9:39 am

Fallout > The Last of Us

Both are very high quality but Fallout had an original story set within the franchise's universe and I respect that more.

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by Tomous » Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:09 am

The Last of Us has excellent production values but it's just a inferior version of a story already told. Great for people who haven't played the games to enjoy but I didn't get a huge amount out of it-it needed more stuff like the Bill episode (which was easily the high point) where it went in its' own direction. Also, Ellie was terribly miscast and I will die on that hill.

Although I've never played the games, going by people's reactions who have, Fallout seems to have hit that sweet spot of telling its own story while remaining faithful to the games, which is not an easy thing to pull off.

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by Lagamorph » Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:14 am

The Fallout show gets the vibe of the game world almost entirely spot on.

It makes a few changes I'm not a fan of, namely the idea of Vault-Tec dropping the bombs to start the Great War rather than China striking first due to the war with the US and the idea of Ghouls going feral without a drug whilst in the games there's no mention of that, Ghouls only seem to go feral due to significant extra radiation exposure, but overall it's both a great intro into the world for newcomers and has plenty for fans to love.

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by Imrahil » Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:20 am

Tomous wrote:The Last of Us has excellent production values but it's just a inferior version of a story already told. Great for people who haven't played the games to enjoy but I didn't get a huge amount out of it-it needed more stuff like the Bill episode (which was easily the high point) where it went in its' own direction. Also, Ellie was terribly miscast and I will die on that hill.

Although I've never played the games, going by people's reactions who have, Fallout seems to have hit that sweet spot of telling its own story while remaining faithful to the games, which is not an easy thing to pull off.

Yeah, both stories were brand new to me but I felt one of them was more affecting, touching and got me thinking a lot after the show had finished - I can only really judge them by their own merits purely as a TV show. Fallout just felt more like a bit of fun in that sense - nice on the surface, but much less going on underneath the bonnet than The Last of Us.

Whatever the perceived strengths and weaknesses by former gamers of the TLOU adaptation, it has a much stronger core story than Fallout regardless. For a first-time watcher it was immense.

But I agree both are very well made.

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by satriales » Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:38 am

Tomous wrote:The Last of Us has excellent production values but it's just a inferior version of a story already told. Great for people who haven't played the games to enjoy but I didn't get a huge amount out of it-it needed more stuff like the Bill episode (which was easily the high point) where it went in its' own direction. Also, Ellie was terribly miscast and I will die on that hill.

Although I've never played the games, going by people's reactions who have, Fallout seems to have hit that sweet spot of telling its own story while remaining faithful to the games, which is not an easy thing to pull off.

This sums it up for me. I love The Last of Us games largely due to the story, but the TV show didn't have the same impact. Other than the Bill chapter, I knew what was going to happen each episode.

With Fallout I thought the games were just okay, but the TV show has taken the essence of Fallout and done it's own thing with it. It's fun to spot all of the details from the game whilst not knowing where the story is going next.

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by Cheeky Devlin » Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:35 pm

Imrahil wrote:Finished it. That was great fun!

Some minor nitpicks here and there, but it's just all so enjoyable. I think the main storyline was perhaps a bit anaemic at times, up until the final episode - it could have done with an extra couple of episodes to play out the conclusion. They were all still fun by themselves though, I don't remember a single bad one.

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I didn't mind them playing more into the sinister idea of Vault-Tec causing nukes to drop in the first place. It works well in the limited confines of a TV series I think.

Moldaver needed much more time in the show. She's essential to everything. Plus I wanted to know more about how she got into cryostasis for 200 years when she was basically the enemy of Vault-Tec. It just needed fleshing out a lot more.

For a game adaptation it was very good, although I'd still put HBO's The Last of Us ahead of it. That show's storyline had a much bigger impact on me and I was more invested in the characters, but I'm amazed at how close Fallout got to it. I never would have predicted that.

8.5/10


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One thing I've noticed and I've seen other people pick up on is that, yeah Vault-Tec talked about dropping the bomb, but that doesn't mean they actually did it first. They never confirmed that it was them, so it's still entirely possible that the US or the Chinese fired first. Unless I missed something of course.
Not that it really bothers me either way. It's entirely in-line with the gooseberry fool Vault-Tec does.
We don't know much about the day the bombs fell in the show and I would think that if they had done it, that Vault-Tec employees and their families (Certainly those with knowledge of the plan) would conveniently be in the Vault before hand. I can't imagine his wife would be happy with her Daughter being out there when it happened.

Though we have no idea what the situation with Colt and his Wife was that day. He clearly had stopped getting work for being a "Commie", which I means something clearly happened between him eavesdropping on the board meeting and being out of work. He was clearly "outed" by someone. Probably Moldaver for some reason. Which might mean he didn't have a place in the vault, or was shunted to a shitty one.

There's too many unknowns to really guess but I'm enjoying speculating. :lol:

I do agree that Moldaver needed more back story. I too wanted to know how she was still around, again presumably because of a Cryotube. I would assume that we'll see more of her next season in flashbacks.

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by Zilnad » Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:59 pm

I'm sure season 2 will have plenty more flashbacks as there's plenty more story there that we haven't seen yet. I wouldn't be surprised at all if further flashbacks confirm the continuity with the games.
As has been mentioned, just because Vault-Tec suggested using the bombs themselves, doesn't confirm they actually did use them first.


Very, very excited for season 2.

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by Imrahil » Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:10 pm

Another possibility is that (end spoilers):
Vault-Tec did instigate the conditions for the war to start but they screwed up the chosen time, so it all happened on the weekend before it was supposed to or something. Corporate miscommunication. Which kind of fits the reckless nature of the company (and also how her daughter was still outside when it all happened.)

There are some theories Moldaver was captured by Vault-Tec and frozen due to her unique scientific knowledge of atomic power, even though she was a danger to them.


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