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PostRe: Analogue to announce a new retro console on 16 October
by jawafour » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:29 pm

kazanova_Frankenstein wrote:...The recent Kim Justice top 100 Amiga games video on YouTube had my nostalgia glands working overtime...

Ah! I watched her Spectrum and Mega Drive top 100s and I hadn't realised that an Amiga one was out. Ta for the heads-up, kaz!

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PostRe: Analogue to announce a new retro console on 16 October
by kazanova_Frankenstein » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:31 pm

jawafour wrote:
kazanova_Frankenstein wrote:...The recent Kim Justice top 100 Amiga games video on YouTube had my nostalgia glands working overtime...

Ah! I watched her Spectrum and Mega Drive top 100s and I hadn't realised that an Amiga one was out. Ta for the heads-up, kaz!


No probs, enjoy (they were great also, but i was a C64 and SNES kid, so Amiga is the first one where i have true nostalgia. I did play on the Speccy a fair bit as one of my best mades owned one).

Would be interested to hear your take on Kim's choices.

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PostRe: Analogue to announce a new retro console on 16 October
by Peter Crisp » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:54 pm

Surely it would be pretty easy to make a retro version of most most consoles up to even the PS2 even the Xbox 360?
I'm fairly confident some people on here could bung together the parts needed on a Raspberry Pi 4 and it cost less than £50 even paying retail prices.

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PostRe: Analogue to announce a new retro console on 16 October
by HSH28 » Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:31 pm

Peter Crisp wrote:Surely it would be pretty easy to make a retro version of most most consoles up to even the PS2 even the Xbox 360?
I'm fairly confident some people on here could bung together the parts needed on a Raspberry Pi 4 and it cost less than £50 even paying retail prices.


That would be a device that ran some kind of software emulator though, these machines have hardware that basically replicate the hardware of the original retro systems.

Its a completely different level of emulation (if that's what you even call it), which is why its significantly more expensive to do.

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PostRe: Analogue to announce a new retro console on 16 October
by Peter Crisp » Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:57 pm

HSH28 wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:Surely it would be pretty easy to make a retro version of most most consoles up to even the PS2 even the Xbox 360?
I'm fairly confident some people on here could bung together the parts needed on a Raspberry Pi 4 and it cost less than £50 even paying retail prices.


That would be a device that ran some kind of software emulator though, these machines have hardware that basically replicate the hardware of the original retro systems.

Its a completely different level of emulation (if that's what you even call it), which is why its significantly more expensive to do.


Aren't the Nintendo machines running emulator versions of games which is why some people have a problem with them?
Even if they do need to do some hardware jiggery pokery these things are made by companies who can afford to hire a few tech savvy people who could manage it without all that much effort and get the hardware manufactured at a reasonable price. Yes, these things are nice but I somehow doubt it's technically difficult and I'd imagine getting the licences is the actual hard part of the process.

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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PostRe: Analogue to announce a new retro console on 16 October
by HSH28 » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:09 am

Peter Crisp wrote:
HSH28 wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:Surely it would be pretty easy to make a retro version of most most consoles up to even the PS2 even the Xbox 360?
I'm fairly confident some people on here could bung together the parts needed on a Raspberry Pi 4 and it cost less than £50 even paying retail prices.


That would be a device that ran some kind of software emulator though, these machines have hardware that basically replicate the hardware of the original retro systems.

Its a completely different level of emulation (if that's what you even call it), which is why its significantly more expensive to do.


Aren't the Nintendo machines running emulator versions of games which is why some people have a problem with them?
Even if they do need to do some hardware jiggery pokery these things are made by companies who can afford to hire a few tech savvy people who could manage it without all that much effort and get the hardware manufactured at a reasonable price. Yes, these things are nice but I somehow doubt it's technically difficult and I'd imagine getting the licences is the actual hard part of the process.


I think you are mixing things up here, the products made by this company are not at all like the Mini consoles that Nintendo, Sega and others are putting out.

These things are reverse engineered hardware that run the original carts. They use hardware called FPGA (Field-programmable gate array), which is basically a chip which they can program to emulate hardware they've reverse engineered, but this tech is relatively expensive when compared to normal hardware. These are niche products made by a small company.

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PostRe: Analogue to announce a new retro console on 16 October
by Cheeky Devlin » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:51 am

HSH28 wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:
HSH28 wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:Surely it would be pretty easy to make a retro version of most most consoles up to even the PS2 even the Xbox 360?
I'm fairly confident some people on here could bung together the parts needed on a Raspberry Pi 4 and it cost less than £50 even paying retail prices.


That would be a device that ran some kind of software emulator though, these machines have hardware that basically replicate the hardware of the original retro systems.

Its a completely different level of emulation (if that's what you even call it), which is why its significantly more expensive to do.


Aren't the Nintendo machines running emulator versions of games which is why some people have a problem with them?
Even if they do need to do some hardware jiggery pokery these things are made by companies who can afford to hire a few tech savvy people who could manage it without all that much effort and get the hardware manufactured at a reasonable price. Yes, these things are nice but I somehow doubt it's technically difficult and I'd imagine getting the licences is the actual hard part of the process.


I think you are mixing things up here, the products made by this company are not at all like the Mini consoles that Nintendo, Sega and others are putting out.

These things are reverse engineered hardware that run the original carts. They use hardware called FPGA (Field-programmable gate array), which is basically a chip which they can program to emulate hardware they've reverse engineered, but this tech is relatively expensive when compared to normal hardware. These are niche products made by a small company.

What HSH said is pretty much spot on. These are essentially the ultimate "clone" consoles in that they're utterly unauthorised, but they will play the original games and even make them look better on modern HD/4K displays. They are essentially hardware emulation, as the FPGAs are emulating the original chips from those machines, rather than a piece of software.


Going back to the Amiga chat for a moment.
There is a Linux distro for the Pi called Amibian. It's dedicated to running an Amiga emulator and can boot straight into it. So you can essentially turn your Pi into an Amiga. I've got it one one of my SD cards and once I get another Pi and case, I'll have a permanent Amiga solution ready to go. Got it running with a virtual HDD and even managed to get a network connection over wi-fi so I can go on the internet with it. Great (but occasionally tricky) fun getting that up and running.

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PostRe: Analogue to announce a new retro console on 16 October
by Somebody Else's Problem » Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:19 am

Didn't they show off a prototype case design for an N64 a few months ago?

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PostRe: Analogue to announce a new retro console on 16 October
by suzzopher » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:27 am

Somebody Else's Problem wrote:Didn't they show off a prototype case design for an N64 a few months ago?


No that was the shitty Hyperkin product.

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PostRe: Analogue to announce a new retro console on 16 October
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PostRe: Analogue to announce a new retro console on 16 October
by Victor Mildew » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:12 pm

God damn

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PostRe: Analogue to announce a new retro console on 16 October
by Jenuall » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:13 pm

Oh gooseberry fool that looks nice! :shock:

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PostRe: Analogue to announce a new retro console on 16 October
by Gemini73 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:52 pm

That does look slick

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PostRe: Analogue to announce a new retro console on 16 October
by Venom » Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:37 pm

That's a fantastic picture. I'm almost tempted just to play possibly the best version of Tetris. But what is this likely to cost £120?

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PostRe: Analogue to announce a new retro console on 16 October
by Cheeky Devlin » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:36 pm

Very nice.

I've got enough handhelds gathering dust though. No need to throw another (Great looking one to be fair) on that pile.

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PostRe: Analogue to announce a new retro console on 16 October
by Frank » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:39 pm

Is it just a new console that plays original Game Boy games then? :shifty:

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PostRe: Analogue to announce a new retro console on 16 October
by Mafro » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:04 pm


HSH28 wrote:Assmung you ever get one that is.

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PostRe: Analogue to announce a new retro console on 16 October
by gaminglegend » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:06 pm

You can pick up a second hand Gameboy a lot cheaper... then again it’s making me think how cute a mini Ps2 would look

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PostRe: Analogue to announce a new retro console on 16 October
by jawafour » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:12 pm

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Analogue Pocket

Arriving "2020". $199.

Eurogamer wrote:...support for a wide range of portable gaming systems. Out of the box, the focus is on the Game Boy line full support for Game Boy, Game Boy Color and Game Boy Advance. Analogue also promises support for Sega Game Gear, Neo Geo Pocket Color and Atari Lynx using cartridge adapters...


Eurogamer wrote: Lastly, and this is perhaps most exciting, the Pocket will include a second dedicated FPGA chip aimed at developers. Analogue specifically mentions MiSTER in its fact sheet suggesting that developers can port or create new FPGA cores specifically for this additional chip. So, in theory, this means the Pocket could support classic arcade games, early micros and other consoles. The main selection of support consoles is, of course, driven by a separate FPGA chip.


Eurogamer wrote: So, the feature set is impressive then but it's the form factor that really stands out. Featuring clean lines and a compact design, the Pocket recalls the form factor of the original Game Boy but with a much more modern aesthetic. The top half of the unit features a 3.5" 615ppi 1600x1440 LCD panel. A high-resolution panel such as this is a good choice as it can support variable resolution without introducing uneven scaling artefacts. The unit also features stereo speakers with a separate 3.5mm headphone jack, a rechargeable lithium ion battery, a micro SD card slot, a Game Boy style link cable port and a USB-C charging port.

Beyond the unit itself, Analogue is also promising a dock which will be sold separately. The dock offers HDMI output, dual USB inputs, support for Bluetooth controller and even compatibility with the Analogue DAC for those wanting to use the Pocket with a CRT television such as Sony PVM. There's a lot of potential here - especially when considering the second FPGA which could lead to console style gaming both on the go and on the couch.

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PostRe: Analogue Pocket | Game Boy, GBC, GBA and more | Launching 2020
by Hound » Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:04 pm

Day one. All over this. I have the Super NT and Mega SG. Both are superb consoles and well worth the cost if you are a collector with a stack of carts.

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