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Somebody Else's Problem wrote:If any other country had the same rate of shootings as America, Trump would call them a shithole.

Cuttooth wrote:Christ, that steady increase in suicide since the recession.

Corazon de Leon wrote:Almost 40,000 gun related deaths in 2017. God's teeth.

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A shooting at a Texas shopping mall has ended in "multiple fatalities", local officials say.

First reports of a shooting emerged at around 11:00 local time (18:00 GMT).

Police warned residents to steer clear of the Cielo Vista Mall in El Paso, just a few miles from the US-Mexico border.

A police spokesman on the scene confirmed there had been deaths but an exact toll is unclear. Three people are reportedly in custody.

About an hour after their initial warning, El Paso police tweeted they had received multiple reports of multiple shooters, and were searching a "very large area".

Police said they no longer believed there was any immediate threat to the public, but were continuing searches.
Local news outlet the El Paso Times reported that at least 11 people had arrived at the city's University Medical Centre.

El Paso Mayor Dee Margo tweeted confirmation of "several fatalities and multiple suspects in custody", and said the shopping mall was still an "active scene" as of 13:00 local time (19:00 GMT).

"My condolences and prayers go out to all of El Paso as we mourn those impacted by this tragedy".

Venom wrote:Disgusting person. Absolute craziness in the US. Firstly the legalised guns, secondly, that shooting innocent people has almost become a part of the culture.

Police are responding to a report of an active shooter in the area of East 5th Street in the Oregon District.

Initial reports indicate multiple people shot, and medics are responding to the area. Reports also indicate that a shooter is down.

Police scanner traffic has indicated that there may be as many as 7 dead, and police are searching for a second possible shooter that may have left the area in a dark-colored Jeep.

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Peter Crisp wrote:

Venom wrote:Disgusting person. Absolute craziness in the US. Firstly the legalised guns, secondly, that shooting innocent people has almost become a part of the culture.

Sadly this won't change for a long time no matter how many people are killed.
Even if they have an incident where a few hundred die they won't take action on gun laws as the gun lobby is just that powerful and they can shut down any and all debate by just saying "Second amendment!" at which point all rational debate ends and the death toll becomes irrelevant.

Rex Kramer wrote:

Peter Crisp wrote:

Venom wrote:Disgusting person. Absolute craziness in the US. Firstly the legalised guns, secondly, that shooting innocent people has almost become a part of the culture.

Sadly this won't change for a long time no matter how many people are killed.
Even if they have an incident where a few hundred die they won't take action on gun laws as the gun lobby is just that powerful and they can shut down any and all debate by just saying "Second amendment!" at which point all rational debate ends and the death toll becomes irrelevant.

This won't change, ever. To change there has to be a red line and if 20 kids under 7 isn't your red line then you don't have one.

Sources are telling us there are at least 10 people dead and an unknown number of wounded. We’re working to confirm some eyewitness accounts that a person who was denied entry into the bar opened fire.

In a public Facebook post from a person named James Williams: “Sad people are not right. I’m safe. Happened right in front of the patio where I was sitting in front of Neds. The guy in front of Ned Peppers’ door is the active shooter.

“He tried to go into the bar but did not make it through the door. Someone took the gun from him and he got shot and is dead.

“There are at least eight people dead right by the picnic table where I was on the street. A bunch of people taken to the hospital. I don’t know how any... this place is a disaster.”

KK wrote:More on Dayton:

Sources are telling us there are at least 10 people dead and an unknown number of wounded. We’re working to confirm some eyewitness accounts that a person who was denied entry into the bar opened fire.

In a public Facebook post from a person named James Williams: “Sad people are not right. I’m safe. Happened right in front of the patio where I was sitting in front of Neds. The guy in front of Ned Peppers’ door is the active shooter.

“He tried to go into the bar but did not make it through the door. Someone took the gun from him and he got shot and is dead.

“There are at least eight people dead right by the picnic table where I was on the street. A bunch of people taken to the hospital. I don’t know how any... this place is a disaster.”

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Trump meanwhile is more interested in what’s happening in London and Germany while there are at least 30 people now dead in 2 incidents on his own doorstep in less than 24 hours. In the U.K. and Germany these would be major terror incidents.