Apple Thread II | AirPods Pros Announced

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by Green Gecko » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:28 am

This is a quick and slapdash suggestion but do you actually use Bluetooth for anything?

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by Prototype » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:30 am

Green Gecko wrote:This is a quick and slapdash suggestion but do you actually use Bluetooth for anything?


Yeah, headphones.

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by Green Gecko » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:46 am

It's something to do with writing out some kind of config file in a driver that manages the systems Bluetooth serial io. Could he them causing it.

Lol if it's airpods. This may come as a disappointment to you, but try not using those for a while and see if it happens again. You'll need to unpair them or switch them off around the laptop.

I could be wrong. But Bluetooth is a very specific thing to be going wrong here. It could potentially be fixed by an apple update. It might be some headphones that don't communicate properly. Shouldn't cause a bloody kernel panic though. That's silly.

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by Prototype » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:52 am

Green Gecko wrote:It's something to do with writing out some kind of config file in a driver that manages the systems Bluetooth serial io. Could he them causing it.

Lol if it's airpods. This may come as a disappointment to you, but try not using those for a while and see if it happens again. You'll need to unpair them or switch them off around the laptop.

I could be wrong. But Bluetooth is a very specific thing to be going wrong here. It could potentially be fixed by an apple update. It might be some headphones that don't communicate properly. Shouldn't cause a bloody kernel panic though. That's silly.


Don't have AirPods but use two different pairs of bluetooth earphones which are both linked to it.

I've got apple support calling me today... might get a replacement though a quick look online shows a load of people are having sleep-to-wake panics with the M1s and that Big Sur can't cope with apple silicon.

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PostRe: Apple Thread II | AirPods Pros Announced
by Mafro » Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:15 pm

There was a Bluetooth problem with Big Sur on some M1 Macs, but that was to do with devices disconnecting, not causing crashes.

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by Prototype » Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:25 pm

Yeah, I've noticed a few random disconnects of earphones etc but nothing more than normal for bluetooth tbh.

It's sleep-to-wake that seems to cause the purple screen and restart and then the bluetooth error message. Bloody Apple :roll:

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by Green Gecko » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:12 pm

Wait, apple released an OS primarily for their userbase of Intel x64 CPUs that's buggy turning off and on again on their own proprietary ARM based chip? That they specifically brought in house because "its faster" or whatever the PR was.

Well that's something.

Never update to latest version of Windows peeps. Never update at all. Except when you download software and it won't run on your old OS. Then update it. Mac I mean.

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PostRe: Apple Thread II | AirPods Pros Announced
by Prototype » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:16 pm

It's getting returned. :lol: Apple support didn't know what to do with it and said the retailer is responsible.

Gutted because it's such a joy to use but am I strawberry float paying £830 for a device which gooseberry fools itself like this. Not good enough.

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by Victor Mildew » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:20 pm

My £2k 27" iMac Wi-Fi broke with the first OSX update I ran on it. I had to reinstall the .kext files that run the Wi-Fi nearly every day to get it to work.

I'd had the iMac about 3 weeks.

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by Green Gecko » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:36 pm

Apple won't accept a return? They will point you to the retailer in the first instance. That's kinda what the law says.

They should still be more helpful than that imo. It's top of the market.

I'm sorry if I am crapping up this thread but I'm a literal it tech or engineer type (or was) and I've needed that knowledge to keep my gooseberry fool working as much as any other brand.

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A miracle it works at all, is my only long term thought strategy. It's terrible for the planet. Why can't we have nice things that work as sold, and as designed.

I'll leave that for the 2nd richest corporation on earth to figure out ffs

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PostRe: Apple Thread II | AirPods Pros Announced
by Cuttooth » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:40 pm

I'm looking forward to maybe buying an iPad Pro later this week then. :slol:

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PostRe: Apple Thread II | AirPods Pros Announced
by Prototype » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:53 pm

If it's any consolation cut tooth my iPhone 12 works absolutely fine? Maybe I'm just unlucky with the MacBook. Either way, is it wrong to expect the basics to function normally for an £830 machine?

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PostRe: Apple Thread II | AirPods Pros Announced
by Robbo-92 » Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:04 pm

While I’ve not owned a Mac myself (used them throughout secondary school though), all the ones I’ve used have been fine, but I’ve not lived with them so not used them long enough to see any of the potential issues. My iOS devices have all been very good though, 2 iPads and an iPhone so not a huge sample size but still, the only issue I’ve had was on my first iPad where the home button was a little dodgy after 6 or so years.

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by Green Gecko » Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:56 pm

My iPad 2 is kinda OK. The home button stopped working properly and then a year or two later started working fine again after lots of "massaging" it. Probably some microscopic piece of dirt - despite the thing being seamless and impossible to get dirty (inside) anyway - or worn out microswitch, getting in between the switch/conductor.

I say it works fine. Apple notoriously released an update as part of iOS 8 that literally underclocked the device to "prevent battery degradation on older devices" when the real reason was the device couldn't cope with iOS 8 and immediately became a drag to use. All I use is Safari now. Nah, that's it. Apple literally decided to make old devices run slower and their excuse was "our OS update is TOO POWERFUL for that old battery, we want to conserve battery longevity". Hmmmmmm.

Since then, pretty much every app on it crashes to the home screen (the classic, "oh, nothing to see here" Apple policy with regards to user experience) multiple times every day. Sure, it's old, but a web browser? A calculator? gooseberry fool like that is stupid, it should still load a basic page fine.

It's the walled garden approach, and patchy (if not plain bad) software updates that get me. Some of which are literally designed to slow the machine down. Apple have the walled garden, and their devices still aren't up to par in my opinion, for what you pay.

The thing is, there aren't that many variations at all of a device like iPhone or iPad. Most of all there are barely any moving parts, and heat is rarely a problem due to SoC (maybe why Apple have moved to SoC because they can't design a working cooling solution or apply thermal paste properly). When it comes to computers, Apple change around quite a lot of gooseberry fool in various motherboard revisions and use off the shelf OEM parts (or at least they used to) for things like RAM, SSD, optical drive, hard disk, screen, whether or not soldered onto the mainboard. Small variations in things like Broadcom (or whatever they use now) wireless chipset, they change parts around to save money like any other manufacturer. Then they release some useless OS feature and insist everyone upgrades. Wham, haven't tested all those variations. They can't and they won't.

"Just strawberry floating ship it guys! We need to meet dem marketing deadlines!"

Apple's engineers are constantly under huge pressure (and horrible, draconian working conditions) to get the next product out as fast as possible.

There's a deathclock on all of these things. The richer corporations get the shittier they are to customers and their answer is "buy a new machine"; hence slight updates to ultimately the same thing on at least an annual basis. This isn't just to stoke demand, it's the "solution" to the planned obsolescence problem. Go to Apple and have them tell you the motherboard needs replacing on day 5, 10, 30 after the warranty expires. They'll quote you almost as much as a new machine. This is not a coincidence.

If they do fix it. Watch the same device fail again with the same problem that's engineered into the motherboard that was swapped. They'll never acknowledge it, but you can go back and read all the class actions that Apple lost about things like this:

https://appleinsider.com/articles/14/10 ... s-failures

https://www.macrumors.com/2014/10/28/ma ... s-lawsuit/

This problem existed on my 2010 model. Note that that's the 2011 model. Yup, apple acknowledged the fault in the "Late 2010" MacBook Pro range, introduced an extended warranty policy, and then had the same strawberry floating problem in their 2011 machines.

This is not a good engineering firm. It's "Designed by Apple in Cuppertino, California", made in Shenzen like pretty much everything else.

I've listened carefully to engineers who explain Apple deliberately make it as hard as possible for independent technicians to fix their engineering problems. The only way you can source Apple parts most of the time is through recycling programs. That's how I fixed mine. They don't want their devices to be fixed. They don't even want people opening them!

If an Apple Authorised Service centre takes in a "vintage" (Apple's internal word for devices 3 or more years old), and requests parts from Apple, Apple send them essentially a "no". They literally won't authorise repairing a computer because they've stopped bothering to make parts. Gotta sell that machine off to sum mug on eBay without mentioning the crashes and then... buy a new Mac.

Nope. Nice try dudes. I'll build a computer I can fix if you won't fix it.

Here's a barely 2 year old over £1.5k fully upgraded Apple machine dying because I opened Twitter.com

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That said, I still love my macbook pro and I love it more because I made it work. I've still got pics of the thermal compound which was so thick and dry it had cracked and resembled cement. This is basic assembly stuff.

I don't blame the factory workers at all for this. Apple shouldn't be using cheap labour to build these machines at the prices they charge.

Anyhow I'm uploading some old funny videos now of my dying machine at the 2 year mark. It had problems way before that.

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by Mafro » Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:12 pm

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by Green Gecko » Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:17 pm

Yup we know you like pretty things Maf and I do too, I really like them. Just give it a few years but you'll probably sell it and get a new one before it goes bad.

Not on you at all. Just... real talk. That's the lifecycle of an Apple product.

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by Mafro » Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:18 pm

what is the tentacle creature under your monitor?

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by Green Gecko » Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:32 pm

Mafro wrote:what is the tentacle creature under your monitor?

lmao I believe that's a rip off Studio Ghibli soot sprite. You tug on it from the keychain and it vibrates.

Yeah, weird thing someone got me.

That pics very old btw. Check out the bezel on that LG external monitor (I still have it... but guess what, it won't work with my Mac anymore because Apple decided you can only use the DisplayPort with the Nvidia graphics... which died).

I'm rocking a 15" real estate on this baby.

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Here there's some problem with the USB hub on the motherboard, or the interconnecting ribbon cable between motherboard and KB/M, so the mouse just stops responding completely (this still happens pretty regularly, or, my 2nd USB port just dies completely until I reboot), and somehow at the same time the keyboard manages to get stuck on and endless loop of entering the space bar character.


I'm not sure what the strawberry float is going on here. The only application open is TextEdit and FireFox. It's not a heat problem because I managed to get that down to 44 degrees from over 100 at times (thermal paste replacement).

This is basic gooseberry fool. Not something you expect from a one and a half grand computer ffs

All you can do is "force off" the machine, crashing the read/write head into the hard disk platter and potentially damaging that (and the whole computer).

Top tier

I think I took these videos to send to my boss as proof I couldn't work effectively that day. How strawberry floating embarrassing (to be fair they never supplied me with a computer).

Edit: my dead-eyed passport photo shoot, why did I add that to my google account :slol:

Edit 2: I just found a video from 5 hours later where my PC hard locks as well, meaning I couldn't get anything done at all that day :lol: :lol:

So there you go.

Self build, Macbook. It's all bollocks. I hope this offers some degree of impartiality. I doesn't matter how much you spend on a computer, they're all strawberry floating dicks and you gotta learn how to fix them.

Have a great evening everyone.

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PostRe: Apple Thread II | AirPods Pros Announced
by rinks » Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:33 pm

Alternative experience: I’ve spent the last year working from home using my old 2007 iMac, without a hitch. It’s had one kernel panic in 14 years.


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