Are All Men Trash? Discussion

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by Jenuall » Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:10 am

I'm sure we've all vented about some topic where we've made a generalised comment about a group, place, institution etc. based on a specific instance or string of events - that's just one of the ways frustrated expression has developed. Taking a very benign example, if you have a bad journey to work for example:

"Ugh, I strawberry floating hate trains, why are they always bloody late!" :x

Is every train late - no of course not, but it may feel that way sometimes! If it helps you vent some steam, and potentially get some sympathy from others - "sorry you had a bad journey Tony, trains can be annoying! ;) "

Does anyone in that situation really believe trains are gooseberry fool to their core and that every train is out to get them? No of course not, that would be ridiculous. I don't think it hurts to apply the same standard to most expressions like those being discussed here - for the vast majority of the time people are just venting and not trying to take part in some widespread conspiracy to seed the notion that some sub-group of individuals are inherently evil!

EDIT: Also I have to admit I dived into this conversation mid-way through and never addressed the origin - it's clearly strawberry floated up that Razer took this stance to a streamer responding to harassment in this way!

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PostRe: Are All Men Trash? Discussion
by Moggy » Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:18 am

Jenuall wrote:Does anyone in that situation really believe trains are gooseberry fool to their core and that every train is out to get them? No of course not, that would be ridiculous.


Why are you now picking on siderodromophobics?

You just can't stop yourself. :x

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by Jenuall » Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:28 am

Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:Does anyone in that situation really believe trains are gooseberry fool to their core and that every train is out to get them? No of course not, that would be ridiculous.


Why are you now picking on siderodromophobics?

You just can't stop yourself. :x


Because I am a monster. :(

Sidenote: siderodromophobics is such a brilliant name - fear of the iron racetrack!

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PostRe: Are All Men Trash? Discussion
by Karl_ » Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:38 am

"Fear of the Iron Racetrack" sounds like Soviet propaganda

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PostRe: Are All Men Trash? Discussion
by Moggy » Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:43 am

Jenuall wrote:
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Jenuall wrote:Does anyone in that situation really believe trains are gooseberry fool to their core and that every train is out to get them? No of course not, that would be ridiculous.


Why are you now picking on siderodromophobics?

You just can't stop yourself. :x


Because I am a monster. :(

Sidenote: siderodromophobics is such a brilliant name - fear of the iron racetrack!


Siderodromophobia might be a brilliant name, but sadly it is androphobia that dominates this thread. :cry:

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PostRe: Are All Men Trash? Discussion
by Jenuall » Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:46 am

So this is the first image that comes up when searching for Androphobia on Google:

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Nice to know their taking a serious look at the issue. :|

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PostRe: Are All Men Trash? Discussion
by Minty14 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:29 pm

All Men: gotten to

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:lol:

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PostRe: Are All Men Trash? Discussion
by Rightey » Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:07 pm

Knoyleo wrote:I thought we'd already established that there's a difference between saying "men are trash," and actually genuinely hating all men, but OK, you two keep banging that drum.


The amount of effort it takes to tell off both people is the same so why wouldn't you? If you talk gooseberry fool online, someone's going to tell you to strawberry float off.

Jenuall wrote:I'm sure we've all vented about some topic where we've made a generalised comment about a group, place, institution etc. based on a specific instance or string of events - that's just one of the ways frustrated expression has developed. Taking a very benign example, if you have a bad journey to work for example:

"Ugh, I strawberry floating hate trains, why are they always bloody late!" :x

Is every train late - no of course not, but it may feel that way sometimes! If it helps you vent some steam, and potentially get some sympathy from others - "sorry you had a bad journey Tony, trains can be annoying! ;) "

Does anyone in that situation really believe trains are gooseberry fool to their core and that every train is out to get them? No of course not, that would be ridiculous. I don't think it hurts to apply the same standard to most expressions like those being discussed here - for the vast majority of the time people are just venting and not trying to take part in some widespread conspiracy to seed the notion that some sub-group of individuals are inherently evil!

EDIT: Also I have to admit I dived into this conversation mid-way through and never addressed the origin - it's clearly strawberry floated up that Razer took this stance to a streamer responding to harassment in this way!


There's a difference to venting about some object, like a train and a group of people (I actually think train is a bad example since they're run by people, and most people blame the people not the actual train. I'd say a computer is a better example). Saying negative things repeatedly about a group leads to more and more hostility towards them until people actually do start believing their own gooseberry fool. Look how many people genuinely believe that everyone in the government is just some leech, or how every person in political party x is part of the extreme right/left etc.

If someone wants to have a rant, than fine, but that doesn't mean people have to quietly accept what they're saying when it's a load of crap.

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PostRe: Are All Men Trash? Discussion
by LightWanderer » Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:42 pm

The only time it's okay to call an entire gender trash is if they're Forkies.

It's become commonplace online to call males trash, particularly white straight cis males. It's not correct and I hate it.

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PostRe: Are All Men Trash? Discussion
by Knoyleo » Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:55 pm

White straight cis males are trash, tho

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by LightWanderer » Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:59 pm

Knoyleo wrote:White straight cis males are trash, tho


Never equate self-confidence as being trash. I'll have you know I have a friend who's a white straight cis male and he's absolutely lovely.

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PostRe: Are All Men Trash? Discussion
by Kezzer » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:21 pm

What about trash men?!

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PostRe: Are All Men Trash? Discussion
by Kezzer » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:21 pm

GARBAGE COLLECTORS OF THE WORLD. UNITE!

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PostRe: Are All Men Trash? Discussion
by Jenuall » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:31 am

But he's a nice guy and if every woman just invited him round and let him show them his thick cock they'd realise that!

strawberry floating hell! :fp:

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PostRe: Are All Men Trash? Discussion
by Oblomov Boblomov » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:46 am

"let me come over and you'll see I won't rape you"

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*DANGER WILL ROBINSON*

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PostRe: Are All Men Trash? Discussion
by LightWanderer » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:53 am

I just threw up a little.

But no, not all men are trash. Most wouldn't dream of doing something like that. And men get just as much sexual harassment from women. When you're gay/nonbinary and ace, the last thing you want is for a woman to try to grab your manbits. For some reason people never talk about how disgusting some women are.

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PostRe: Are All Men Trash? Discussion
by Moggy » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:56 am

LightWanderer wrote:I just threw up a little.

But no, not all men are trash. Most wouldn't dream of doing something like that. And men get just as much sexual harassment from women. When you're gay/nonbinary and ace, the last thing you want is for a woman to try to grab your manbits. For some reason people never talk about how disgusting some women are.


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