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Are Madeline McCanns parents bad parents
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:12 pm
by kerr9000
So watching the Madeline McCann Netflix documentary and Kate McCann says hardly anyone is critical of them as parents, I am so wondered how the rest of you felt.
Re: Are Madeline McCanns parents bad parents
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:20 pm
by Preezy
If they killed their child and covered it up - then they're bad parents.
If they didn't kill their child - probably not bad parents.
Re: Are Madeline McCanns parents bad parents
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:22 pm
by Mafro
They killed their child, so yes.
Re: Are Madeline McCanns parents bad parents
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:24 pm
by False
Mafro wrote:They killed their child, so yes.
Re: Are Madeline McCanns parents bad parents
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:24 pm
by jawafour
I would be surprised if someone felt that labelling the parents of the abducted child as "bad" was a thing they wanted to do.
Re: Are Madeline McCanns parents bad parents
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:26 pm
by NickSCFC
Their child was kidnapped and sold to sex trafficers while they got drunk in some bar.
So maybe.
Re: Are Madeline McCanns parents bad parents
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:29 pm
by Jenuall
Based on my understanding of the facts around Madeline's disappearance (I've watched some of the recent documentary and paid a fair amount of attention to the story at the time, but I'm not claiming to be an expert!) I would say that, on balance, yes they were "bad parents", as were the other couples who were on holiday with them.
They left their children unattended a considerable distance away from them, in an unlocked apartment, that they had limited/no visibility of, in a place that was unfamiliar to everyone, in order to go for a meal with their friends. Personally I think that is showing a lack of care for the children who are their responsibility.
Now I'm sure millions of people have done similar things - leaving kids in cars unattended, nipping across the road to grab something from a neighbour or shop whilst your kids are still in your house etc. and how often does anything bad happen in those cases? Probably very few times, but that doesn't necessarily validate that behaviour as "OK", it just means in those cases people have been lucky and gotten away without an incident occurring.
Re: Are Madeline McCanns parents bad parents
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:32 pm
by SEP
They left their kids unattended while they went to a bar. They're strawberry floating AWFUL parents, and if they hadn't been rich and white, they've have been jailed, or at the very least, had their remaining children taken off them and been pilloried in the press.
Re: Are Madeline McCanns parents bad parents
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:38 pm
by kerr9000
Somebody Else's Problem wrote:They left their kids unattended while they went to a bar. They're strawberry floating AWFUL parents, and if they hadn't been rich and white, they've have been jailed, or at the very least, had their remaining children taken off them and been pilloried in the press.
That's exactly how I feel
Re: Are Madeline McCanns parents bad parents
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:42 pm
by Christopher
Somebody Else's Problem wrote:They left their kids unattended while they went to a bar. They're strawberry floating AWFUL parents, and if they hadn't been rich and white, they've have been jailed, or at the very least, had their remaining children taken off them and been pilloried in the press.
Spot on.
Re: Are Madeline McCanns parents bad parents
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:46 pm
by Mafro
NickSCFC wrote:Their child was kidnapped and sold to sex trafficers while they got drunk in some bar.
So maybe.
Has this been alluded to anywhere in the press or in that Netflix documentary? I was reading a Twitter thread about it and it just makes the pair out to be even dodgier than they were before, if that was even possible.
Re: Are Madeline McCanns parents bad parents
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:47 pm
by Moggy
I haven’t seen the Netflix documentary but from what I remember of the case they left their very young kids alone while they went out eating and drinking.
It’s not exactly great parenting.
Re: Are Madeline McCanns parents bad parents
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:53 pm
by jawafour
I tend to think that they made a bad decision rather than that they are bad parents in general.
Now, I haven't seen the Netflix programme and so I don't know if evidence was presented that confirmed whether the parents regularly did things that made them worthy of the label "bad parents" or if this incident was a one-off. Either way, the outcome is truly dreadful and, personally, I wouldn't feel comfortable placing such a label on people in that situation.
Re: Are Madeline McCanns parents bad parents
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:55 pm
by Preezy
Assuming that they didn't kill her or conspire to have her kidnapped...
jawafour wrote:I tend to think that they made a bad decision rather than that they are bad parents in general.
... then I agree with Jawa's stance.
Of course, if they're guilty then ship them off to Monster Island.
Re: Are Madeline McCanns parents bad parents
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:56 pm
by Lagamorph
Regardless of whether or not they killed her, they thought it was acceptable to leave a child alone in a hotel room while they went out for a meal and drinks. That makes them bad parents.
Re: Are Madeline McCanns parents bad parents
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:00 pm
by Moggy
Preezy wrote:jawafour wrote:I tend to think that they made a bad decision rather than that they are bad parents in general.
... then I agree with Jawa's stance.
I would agree if they had turned their back for a few seconds and the kid had run off. Or if they had paid for a babysitter who had run off with the kid. Or if Madeline had been 8/9/10 years old.
But this is more than just a bad decision, they left three
very young children in an apartment and then went out for food and drinks. That’s a little beyond a bad mistake, it is negligent.
That doesn’t mean I think they deserved it, nobody deserves to lose a child, but they are definitely at fault for what happened.
Re: Are Madeline McCanns parents bad parents
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:01 pm
by Christopher
Lagamorph wrote:Regardless of whether or not they killed her, they thought it was acceptable to leave a child alone in a hotel room while they went out for a meal and drinks. That makes them bad parents.
Three children were left alone. That’s why it’s highly suspicious, and I feel that the parents may have accidentally killed their daughter.
Re: Are Madeline McCanns parents bad parents
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:03 pm
by Mafro
This twtter thread is a good read.
twitter.com/vasinvain/status/1052261768909733888
Dodgy, dodgy couple.
Re: Are Madeline McCanns parents bad parents
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:04 pm
by Victor Mildew
How good was their music?
Re: Are Madeline McCanns parents bad parents
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:11 pm
by jawafour
I haven't watched the programme and so I'm not aware if any evidence was shown that may change my thinking, but I don't think I'd want to go further than saying they made a misjudgement. It was a poor decision but, yeah, no-one would have expected or wanted the outcome that resulted. It's so sad.