Are You A Freedom Fighter? – Le Dénouement (Day 10)

Parksey wrote:I do wonder if there's some sort of nominative determinism

thats a long word lol

Parksey wrote:

satriales wrote:Celebrity names was also an inspired decision. It made it really easy to remember who's who.

Absolutely this. I struggle really badly with alt account games (the time difference didn't help when I was in Japan either) but this was a masterstroke from OB.

He did promise me that he'd make it easier to remember names before I signed up, and also promised me the win seeing as I, erm, let him win when he was the Seer in OR's game too, so thanks for that.

I do wonder if there's some sort of nominative determinism too, with people becoming like their avatars. It definitely helped me view Tom Hardy as a rascal.

I very nearly chose a Bane avatar but I've seen people get lynched on avatar choice before.

Herdanos wrote:

Parksey wrote:I do wonder if there's some sort of nominative determinism

thats a long word lol

You know, you can stop being Karen now...

Memento Mori wrote:

Parksey wrote:

satriales wrote:Celebrity names was also an inspired decision. It made it really easy to remember who's who.

Absolutely this. I struggle really badly with alt account games (the time difference didn't help when I was in Japan either) but this was a masterstroke from OB.

He did promise me that he'd make it easier to remember names before I signed up, and also promised me the win seeing as I, erm, let him win when he was the Seer in OR's game too, so thanks for that.

I do wonder if there's some sort of nominative determinism too, with people becoming like their avatars. It definitely helped me view Tom Hardy as a rascal.

I very nearly chose a Bane avatar but I've seen people get lynched on avatar choice before.

Yeah I deliberately avoided anything from the Hunger Games for that reason, and I know Aaron had Jodie gifs he wanted to use.

Sat/Bryan Cranston came under suspicion because someone posted a Breaking Bad gif as well.

Parksey wrote:Absolutely this. I struggle really badly with alt account games (the time difference didn't help when I was in Japan either) but this was a masterstroke from OB.

Someone doesn't read the Forum Game Test group thread

I'm glad it worked as intended though! Personally I hadn't heard of several of the celebrities anyway

Memento Mori wrote:

Parksey wrote:

satriales wrote:Celebrity names was also an inspired decision. It made it really easy to remember who's who.

Absolutely this. I struggle really badly with alt account games (the time difference didn't help when I was in Japan either) but this was a masterstroke from OB.

He did promise me that he'd make it easier to remember names before I signed up, and also promised me the win seeing as I, erm, let him win when he was the Seer in OR's game too, so thanks for that.

I do wonder if there's some sort of nominative determinism too, with people becoming like their avatars. It definitely helped me view Tom Hardy as a rascal.

I very nearly chose a Bane avatar but I've seen people get lynched on avatar choice before.

I was hesitant to pick a superhero avatar for that reason but feel like Ryan's objectively worst film was worthy of note.

OrangeRKN wrote:

Parksey wrote:Absolutely this. I struggle really badly with alt account games (the time difference didn't help when I was in Japan either) but this was a masterstroke from OB.

Someone doesn't read the Forum Game Test group thread

I'm glad it worked as intended though! Personally I hadn't heard of several of the celebrities anyway

I hadn't heard of a lot of them either.

I think Bae Doona was the only one I wasn't sure on

That's why I killed her

Jenuall wrote:I think Bae Doona was the only one I wasn't sure on

That's why I killed her

this mummy strawberry floater right here

The sombering feeling when you thought you were having a good game then you look at the death thread and just see everyone saying how gooseberry fool you'd played.

Clarkman wrote:

Jenuall wrote:I think Bae Doona was the only one I wasn't sure on

That's why I killed her

this mummy strawberry floater right here

Qikz wrote:The sombering feeling when you thought you were having a good game then you look at the death thread and just see everyone saying how gooseberry fool you'd played.

You got to the end so it's impossible to say you didn't have a good game!

Qikz wrote:The sombering feeling when you thought you were having a good game then you look at the death thread and just see everyone saying how gooseberry fool you'd played.

Did think some comments were harsh!

Oh, to think. I had Jodie. I had her as a potential wrong'un. But I never pushed for it. I never considered to look deeper. I could have utilised that risky play I talked of to get her - even if I wouldn't have been able to set it up the way I'd originally intended.

Now, Jodie's strong response to Ryan switching to a new person day one has never sat right with me - especially considering it was always on the basis of an inactive and not set to a specific person. She again removed her vote from Ryan for the same thing but suggested he change it rather thn go for the strong reaction again. She also pushed the idea that a vigi killed the first freedom fighter. Even Idris Elba joined in on that. Which, okay... We didn't know there were two freedom fighter factions then, but it was all on the freedom fighters (assuming Jodie and Idris are) pushing the narrative that had everyone thinking it was a vigi in the first place and not looking at the obvious tells. It was only through me pointing it out that got everyone on the right track.

Just wanted to jot down a few thoughts now I've had some time to settle!

It's been said before but a huge huge thank you again to Ob Bob for running this at an extremely busy time in his life! You made the past couple of weeks a lot of fun. You balanced the game very well and the two factions idea was very cool.

This was my first time being a baddie! I didn't exactly feel like I was in the informed minority, more in the "slightly more informed" minority. An interesting aspect was how many bluffs the citizens were playing. Tom's eclair story wasn't checking out, neither was Qikz having a second bullet but still running for Mayor which could have led to citizens out of the trust circle finding it hard to trust them. Having to theorise with my comrades about what the jacs were up to and how best to play our kills was a lot of fun. It felt like we had made a mistake taking Angelina out in the early game, but now knowing it was Drummy and he had all sorts of dirty tricks up his sleeve (what were these, by the way?), I could easily claim that in fact that could have been the pivotal moment that allowed us to win (not that it wasn't a very tough fight!). Big props to the village who put up a solid defence in the midgame, and well done again to Hugo for carrying the village torch right to the end.

Our win was very much a team effort and it was just happenstance that I survived to the end. I think we had put me up for an Etang to keep it red a few days before and thus I was ready to be the third NC killed, but Anya being a Jacobin in with me and then Bryan getting dunked the next day with me gave me some respite. I see from the death thread there were doubts about our "Kate pretending to be the last jacobin" play, but for some reason we felt we needed one more "double kill" and at that point Hugo had expressed his trust for me so we felt it would be beneficial for me to go into the endgame with him. I had genuinely tried to play the game the exact same way I do as a villager, casting aspersions on everyone. I know Zendaya said it was suspicious that I freaked out on Day 1 when Ryan changed his lynch target and kept my vote but that was sort of me prodding and rocking the boat a bit which I like to do as a villager early game.

Yesterday was tough as I was fairly sure Maggie was the last Jacobin and thus needed her to get chopped by Hugo. If I was really a villager I wouldn't care who Hugo chose out of Maggie and Morgan, so that was a tough one to play. I think Jenuall made a post earlier today highlighting how my attempts to persuade this way were suspicious.

We went from "yeah we've completely strawberry floated this" to "holy gooseberry fool I could pull this off" in the space of about a day, which was very stressful for me! All in all though I had a great time and don't know how I'm going to spend my work days without being able to analyse all the combinations and permutations of various plays with my National Convention brothers. Thanks again for some great forum memories my NC bros and Ob Bob!

Vive la révolution

So it was Maggie

Out of interest- why didn't Bladeforce recruit anyone else once I died?

Jenuall wrote:

Qikz wrote:The sombering feeling when you thought you were having a good game then you look at the death thread and just see everyone saying how gooseberry fool you'd played.

You got to the end so it's impossible to say you didn't have a good game!

Exactly. Trusting Jodie was the only real mistake I can recall and it's not as if I or anyone else pushed back particularly hard on that via PM.

Qikz wrote:The sombering feeling when you thought you were having a good game then you look at the death thread and just see everyone saying how gooseberry fool you'd played.

I think you played a wonderful game. The scheming that went on between you and Mori (and presumably others) has to go down as some of the most devious play the Town has ever produced, and it brought you to within a hair of total glory.

Your deceit was so convincing that at one point it gave me anxiety, with the Death Thread (understandably) calling out the fabricated mechanisms as too powerful and unfair on the FFs . I think it was a combination of the lie about the éclair, the lie about the second bullet and the lie about the bodyguard!

I wouldn't underestimate the pressure you were under during those final couple of days. If you had changed your mind and Jodie had in fact been on your side then you probably would have felt much worse! I found myself hoping that you would realise something was off about Morgan's last-ditch attack on you, as I felt you deserved something for all your efforts.

In fact, you will be posthumously awarded by the Gouverneur, as soon as he's landed back on his feet, because you were the Bourreau who took the head of the Freedom Fighter (Maggie/Falsey) who murdered dear Ana!

Had i been able to join the FF's and bludgeon you lynching bastards then i would have done so.

Another great game anyhow, and congrats to aayl1/the FF's.

Wow, what an end to a brilliant game. Aaron played his role as perfectly as he could have done, and SD you were brilliant too. Don't be disheartened by the final day - most people who end up on the winning team don't play a role half as well as you did. I thought in this case though there were loads of great plays going on, especially with all of the different mechanics.

I've got to admit that I wasn't too disappointed in getting offed so early and am glad I was FF killed rather than lynched. I don't generally have the free time to commit to playing these games effectively any more, but can't stop myself from signing up! Being the 2nd person killed also meant I could enjoy reading the thread without the stress of having to contribute inevitably rushed and misinformed posts.

A final thanks and huge well done to ObBob in running an extremely entertaining, balanced and engaging game. One of the best of these games I can remember (and of course the sexiest ) and I'm in awe at how well you did considering it's your first time running a game and you've got a new baby! Big congrats all around.