Are You A Gangster 2: A New Menace - Day 3 - Jessica Fletcher Executed

Kouichi Zenigata wrote::lol: Is that right, Jess?

Jacques, I think there might be value in you and I swapping targets.

It maintains the rest of the plan but me jailing Hercule again seems redundant (as we already know he'll not kill me when I let him go, and he isn't Mafia), unless we think he's the Werewolf.

And if he is the Werewolf, and tonight is indeed the full moon, then by me releasing him, he'll kill me, giving himself away, allowing the town to lynch him tomorrow and win the game.

If Hercule is legit he will be able to come back with some Intel for us; if there is a night kill tonight it'll mean we have grounds to suspect him.

I have already sent my move in, but happy to change it if the Chief will allow it. I think the main benefit would be allowing you to kill Jess. Claiming Escort hasn't swung my opinion on her!

But who should I block if we do swap? Dick, Nancy & Hercule is the order of my suspects after Jessica, but I don't want to ruin the plan we have in place by picking the wrong one to block!

Just do a straight trade, Jessica for Hercule.

Jacques Clouseau wrote:

Kouichi Zenigata wrote::lol: Is that right, Jess?

Jacques, I think there might be value in you and I swapping targets.

It maintains the rest of the plan but me jailing Hercule again seems redundant (as we already know he'll not kill me when I let him go, and he isn't Mafia), unless we think he's the Werewolf.

And if he is the Werewolf, and tonight is indeed the full moon, then by me releasing him, he'll kill me, giving himself away, allowing the town to lynch him tomorrow and win the game.

If Hercule is legit he will be able to come back with some Intel for us; if there is a night kill tonight it'll mean we have grounds to suspect him.

I have already sent my move in, but happy to change it if the Chief will allow it. I think the main benefit would be allowing you to kill Jess. Claiming Escort hasn't swung my opinion on her!

But who should I block if we do swap? Dick, Nancy & Hercule is the order of my suspects after Jessica, but I don't want to ruin the plan we have in place by picking the wrong one to block!

By swap I meant a straight swap. So you'd block Hercule. It gives Dick and Nancy the chance to verify their claims.
It also means we're potentially vulnerable though...

If we were to have you block another target it would change our planned chain of events, meaning we'd need other players to change their targets too. Might be too short notice for that now...

I'm fairly sure we're allowed to change targets. Let me check my role PM.

EDIT: nothing in my role PM says I can't change my target.

Kouichi Zenigata wrote:

Shinichi Kudo wrote:From your guys perspective Jacques should probably role block me

Now this I don't understand - why would he do this?

Because i'm the only one without an active role (seemingly) so I can't clear myself. You guys know i'm not mafian but I could still be third party.

I'm basically saying that if you wanted to roleblock me to rule out any doubt in your minds then i'm fine with that as I was roleblocked previously and there were no night kills.

Edit: Yeah i'm not suggesting you strawberry float up the whole chain. I just don't see the point in blocking Hercule personally but it's not going to make much difference either way as I think either Jessica dies tonight or she dies tomorrow.

Kouichi Zenigata wrote:

Jacques Clouseau wrote:

Kouichi Zenigata wrote::lol: Is that right, Jess?

Jacques, I think there might be value in you and I swapping targets.

It maintains the rest of the plan but me jailing Hercule again seems redundant (as we already know he'll not kill me when I let him go, and he isn't Mafia), unless we think he's the Werewolf.

And if he is the Werewolf, and tonight is indeed the full moon, then by me releasing him, he'll kill me, giving himself away, allowing the town to lynch him tomorrow and win the game.

If Hercule is legit he will be able to come back with some Intel for us; if there is a night kill tonight it'll mean we have grounds to suspect him.

I have already sent my move in, but happy to change it if the Chief will allow it. I think the main benefit would be allowing you to kill Jess. Claiming Escort hasn't swung my opinion on her!

But who should I block if we do swap? Dick, Nancy & Hercule is the order of my suspects after Jessica, but I don't want to ruin the plan we have in place by picking the wrong one to block!

By swap I meant a straight swap. So you'd block Hercule. It gives Dick and Nancy the chance to verify their claims.
It also means we're potentially vulnerable though...

If we were to have you block another target it would change our planned chain of events, meaning we'd need other players to change their targets too. Might be too short notice for that now...

I'm fairly sure we're allowed to change targets. Let me check my role PM.

OK, happy to do a straight swap. Will wait for you to come back and then I'll send a new message in. We've changed lynch votes, so I guess it's allowed, unless it's specifically stated that there is not a chance to change the instructions.

Jacques Clouseau wrote:

Kouichi Zenigata wrote:

Jacques Clouseau wrote:

Kouichi Zenigata wrote::lol: Is that right, Jess?

Jacques, I think there might be value in you and I swapping targets.

It maintains the rest of the plan but me jailing Hercule again seems redundant (as we already know he'll not kill me when I let him go, and he isn't Mafia), unless we think he's the Werewolf.

And if he is the Werewolf, and tonight is indeed the full moon, then by me releasing him, he'll kill me, giving himself away, allowing the town to lynch him tomorrow and win the game.

If Hercule is legit he will be able to come back with some Intel for us; if there is a night kill tonight it'll mean we have grounds to suspect him.

I have already sent my move in, but happy to change it if the Chief will allow it. I think the main benefit would be allowing you to kill Jess. Claiming Escort hasn't swung my opinion on her!

But who should I block if we do swap? Dick, Nancy & Hercule is the order of my suspects after Jessica, but I don't want to ruin the plan we have in place by picking the wrong one to block!

By swap I meant a straight swap. So you'd block Hercule. It gives Dick and Nancy the chance to verify their claims.
It also means we're potentially vulnerable though...

If we were to have you block another target it would change our planned chain of events, meaning we'd need other players to change their targets too. Might be too short notice for that now...

I'm fairly sure we're allowed to change targets. Let me check my role PM.

OK, happy to do a straight swap. Will wait for you to come back and then I'll send a new message in. We've changed lynch votes, so I guess it's allowed, unless it's specifically stated that there is not a chance to change the instructions.

I will PM the chief now.

It is done. Jessica will be jailed.

Splendid.

Kouichi Zenigata wrote:It is done. Jessica will be jailed.

And Hercule will be having an unexpectedly sexy night.

My Last Will incorrectly states I'd be spending the night with Jessica, just in case it causes any confusion. I'll correct it if I survive to update it tomorrow.

Cool beans. I retain a little concern surrounding Hercule. The part in my role PM that referred to blocking roles that otherwise had roleblock immunity, makes me worry that he may be a Neutral who can force through a kill if blocked by the Escort but not if jailed. The other option being that he's a werewolf and luckily (for me) last night wasn't a full moon.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love it if we get a perfect game, but we mustn't get complacent!

As it stands I'm (obviously) leaning very heavily towards killing Jessica. I can decide any time up to 10am tomorrow, after which we'll learn the results of all the night actions - but of course if anything goes wrong I might not be able to enact that kill. In which case - someone is a dirty rotten liar

Can I be left to use my ability to watch people?

One final thought for the day.

Hercule isn't mafia, so his claim to have been notified that he was their target - as well as being safe from them due to being jailed - is most likely true (as it explains the no night kill from them yesterday).

Which means that after he was jailed Hercule realised the mafia were somehow after him.

How did I, as the jailor, not then see that it was Jane who was after him?

Worst. Jailor. Ever!

Kouichi Zenigata wrote:Cool beans. I retain a little concern surrounding Hercule. The part in my role PM that referred to blocking roles that otherwise had roleblock immunity, makes me worry that he may be a Neutral who can force through a kill if blocked by the Escort but not if jailed. The other option being that he's a werewolf and luckily (for me) last night wasn't a full moon.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love it if we get a perfect game, but we mustn't get complacent!

As it stands I'm (obviously) leaning very heavily towards killing Jessica. I can decide any time up to 10am tomorrow, after which we'll learn the results of all the night actions - but of course if anything goes wrong I might not be able to enact that kill. In which case - someone is a dirty rotten liar

My role profile does state that there may be people who are able to evade my charm (I tried to make this clear in my role description, but I may have gotten a little carried away).

A perfect game would be incredible, but I think we have to accept that the town will take losses. If our plan tonight doesn't go perfectly, we'll still be progressing through our list of suspects.

The 10PM Deadline has arrived, all night actions are locked in and I'll come back to you all with your results shortly!

Hercule Poirot wrote:Can I be left to use my ability to watch people?

Sorry Hercule, it must be a little frustrating to be sat with an ability and not allowed to use it! But you have really helped the town, even if we were looking to lynch you for going to jail and being targeted by the Mafia! I wasn't quite sure why we were blocking you tonight and not one of the other suspects, but it was quite late in the day and as the plan relies on everyone getting their commands in and I have to admit that I wasn't fully following every possibility of the town plan.

Maybe you can use your actually quite useful ability tomorrow?!

Chief Inspector wrote:The 10PM Deadline has arrived, all night actions are locked in and I'll come back to you all with your results shortly!

Good luck town!

Okay, so after some investigation, Dick is one of the following three roles; Doctor, disguiser, or serial killer.

Thought I'd better post my findings in case I'm the target tonight.

Nancy Drew wrote:Okay, so after some investigation, Dick is one of the following three roles; Doctor, disguiser, or serial killer.

Thought I'd better post my findings in case I'm the target tonight.

How have you come to this conclusion?

Jacques Clouseau wrote:

Nancy Drew wrote:Okay, so after some investigation, Dick is one of the following three roles; Doctor, disguiser, or serial killer.

Thought I'd better post my findings in case I'm the target tonight.

How have you come to this conclusion?

My role doesn't provide a single definitive answer, it only provides several possibilities. The rest we have to figure out for ourselves by matching the result with what we already know, but considering Dick already said he was a doctor, there's a good chance he could be legit.

Nancy Drew wrote:

Jacques Clouseau wrote:

Nancy Drew wrote:Okay, so after some investigation, Dick is one of the following three roles; Doctor, disguiser, or serial killer.

Thought I'd better post my findings in case I'm the target tonight.

How have you come to this conclusion?

My role doesn't provide a single definitive answer, it only provides several possibilities. The rest we have to figure out for ourselves by matching the result with what we already know, but considering Dick already said he was a doctor, there's a good chance he could be legit.

Oh of course! Thanks for sharing. It would seem pretty good confirmation of Dick. Hopefully our plan tonight clears Nancy and we'll be closing in on victory.