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Re: Are You A Werewolf? - Wolf kills p25

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:20 pm
by Moggy
Tomous wrote:Man, that was a quick swing :(


It's nothing personal*, we just have very little to go on and your post looked a little odd.

*unless you are a wolf and then you can strawberry float off. ;)

Re: Are You A Werewolf? - Wolf kills p25

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:21 pm
by Tomous
No, I know how the game works don't worry, I just looked at it at an hour ago and thought I was safe.

And you can strawberry float off when you find out I'm not ;)

Re: Are You A Werewolf? - Wolf kills p25

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:23 pm
by Tomous
Firstly, I don’t believe Kanbei is a wolf given how many votes he’s been in and how the swing has been from Rik/Kanbei to myself/Kanbei. Which doesn’t really help my cause, but there you go.

However, I’d (obviously) encourage you to vote for him over me. He hasn’t contributed anything and I think it’s pretty obvious if you think about it logically, that it was just a poor choice of words on my part, especially given how I was discussing a rule that many others here have assumed was in play. Given the wolves killed 3 inactives on Day 1 (which I don’t think they’d ever do unless they absolutely had to) I think it’s a more than fair assumption that it is indeed part of their rules. I’d also encourage people to look at my post history, as I have been active and contributing towards discussions and trying to move things forward.

It would also be a really stupid mistake to make for a wolf, although from what I can gather from reading about past games, that I wasn’t involved in, you guys probably don’t have much trouble believing that could happen :lol:

So that’s my defence, not much more I can say, however, I know how these things work and people will want to tie up loose ends, especially given how there’s so little else to go on. So if I am lynched and when you confirm I’m just a villager it’s probably worth following up the Rik lead given how many votes the switch to myself gathered in a short amount of time. I would argue the Rik link was just as tenuous as mine, yet it did get a lot of momentum, especially as the clock ticked towards 2pm.

Feel abit stupid for derailing the thread over something so daft on my part (Mine E has already sent me a highly abusive PM for losing him his mayorship) but hopefully a closely contested vote (which is far better to have than the kind of vote we had on Day 1) could produce some useful information down the line.

Re: Are You A Werewolf? - Wolf kills p25

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:26 pm
by Songwriter
Just read through since Tomous slip up during lunch.

And by slip up I mean ..."slip up". I think he's innocent. People are far too quick to jump.

Re: Are You A Werewolf? - Wolf kills p25

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:28 pm
by False
Yeah Im voting Kanbei. I think it was just an honest, poorly worded mistake.

Re: Are You A Werewolf? - Wolf kills p25

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:30 pm
by Moggy
Songwriter wrote: People are far too quick to jump.


I agree 100% but at this stage there is nothing at all to go on. We have no evidence against anybody and so have to jump on the little things that pop up in the hope it leads us somewhere.

Has Kanbei actually done anything to make us doubt him or is he up just because he has been quiet?

Re: Are You A Werewolf? - Wolf kills p25

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:57 pm
by Pacman
For people who have been too busy to keep up with reading the entire thread the reason for the vote swing is on Page 31.

Why did I choose Kanbei?

At the point when Mini E was winning with eyes on Riksilver and Kanbei (the latter decided by coin toss between Pancake's choices) I had no significant suspicions about either of his choices and hadn't voted for him. When Tomous slipped up (see page 31) I put myself up for the vote and needed to state my choices. Actually I originally wanted to post my choices as: "Tomous and.... does it really matter :lol:" but given the previous discussion on wannabe-Mayors stating their choices before running for election I didn't submit that post. Instead, I glanced at the existing choices and Kanbei seemed obvious as two of my rival were also nominating him.

So with that, let's lynch either Tomous or Kanbei.


Sorry Tomous if you're innocent :dread:

Really don't want another FatDaz situation.... RIP in peace :cry:

Re: Are You A Werewolf? - Wolf kills p25

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:04 pm
by BID0
I don't think I'm going to vote unless some substantial evidence turns up before the deadline.

I think Riksilver has more evidence stacked against him.

Re: Are You A Werewolf? - Wolf kills p25

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:09 pm
by Drumstick
Pacman has selected Tomous and Kanbei for today's lynch. Please PM me with your vote for who you want to face the lynch.

Please put the name of the person you are voting for in the title of the PM, i.e. 'Vote Tomous' or 'Vote Kanbei'.

The deadline for submitting your vote is 8pm.

Re: Are You A Werewolf? - Wolf kills p25

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:24 pm
by Zellery
The vote swing. :dread:

I'll be voting for Kanbei as he's not very active and Tomous didn't even slip up. He stated a commonly known rule that's been present in all of these games. :fp:

Re: Are You A Werewolf? - Wolf kills p25

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:27 pm
by Pacman
Riksilver just looked at PMs. I'm not convinced "looking at PMs" constitutes enough of a reason to go after him, and even if it did, it's not exactly sporting to use that as evidence since the page was disabled for the game soon after.

Re: Are You A Werewolf? - Wolf kills p25

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:29 pm
by Zellery
Pacman wrote:Riksilver just looked at PMs. I'm not convinced "looking at PMs" constitutes enough of a reason to go after him, and even if it did, it's not exactly sporting to use that as evidence since the page was disabled for the game soon after.

He was in his private messages for some time, Mini E said.

I'd say that's a better reason to go on than someone stating a commonly known rule then being called a wolf.

Are You A Werewolf? - Tomous vs. Kanbei

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:30 pm
by Mini E
Pacman wrote:Riksilver just looked at PMs. I'm not convinced "looking at PMs" constitutes enough of a reason to go after him, and even if it did, it's not exactly sporting to use that as evidence since the page was disabled for the game soon after.


In my defence, at the time I was entirely unaware that the "who's online" bit was going to be disabled for the game or that it had been during past games (if it has). PMM can back me up on this as we were having a general conversation about the game as it begun and I mentioned it before the "who's online" was removed.

Re: Are You A Werewolf? - Wolf kills p25

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:49 pm
by Ironhide
Zellery wrote:
Pacman wrote:Riksilver just looked at PMs. I'm not convinced "looking at PMs" constitutes enough of a reason to go after him, and even if it did, it's not exactly sporting to use that as evidence since the page was disabled for the game soon after.
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He was in his private messages for some time Mini E said.

I'd say that's a better reason to go on than someone stating a commonly known rule then being called a wolf.


It's still weak evidence and a valid reason why the active users page was disabled for the game, if he does anything else suspicious though then we should lynch him.

Re: Are You A Werewolf? - Wolf kills p25

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:52 pm
by Herdanos
Zellery wrote:I'll be voting for Kanbei as he's not very active and Tomous didn't even slip up. He stated a commonly known rule that's been present in all of these games. :fp:


This. Sorry Kanbei.

Re: Are You A Werewolf? - Wolf kills p25

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:53 pm
by Zellery
Ironhide wrote:
Zellery wrote:
Pacman wrote:Riksilver just looked at PMs. I'm not convinced "looking at PMs" constitutes enough of a reason to go after him, and even if it did, it's not exactly sporting to use that as evidence since the page was disabled for the game soon after.
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He was in his private messages for some time Mini E said.

I'd say that's a better reason to go on than someone stating a commonly known rule then being called a wolf.


It's still weak evidence and a valid reason why the active users page was disabled for the game, if he does anything else suspicious though then we should lynch him.

And putting up Tomous for stating a rule isn't a weak decision? My point was that Mini E's platform, although weak, was the less weak of the two.

I don't really understand why so many people suddenly jumped on Tomous and voted for him.

Are You A Werewolf? - Tomous vs. Kanbei

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:57 pm
by Mini E
If neither tomous or kanbei turn out to be wolves then we should be looking at who quietly changed their votes without any vocal reasoning or, more importantly, who only voted for the first time once the tomous platform was announced.

Re: Are You A Werewolf? - Tomous vs. Kanbei

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:58 pm
by Dandy Kong
How can you tell someone is checking their PMs?

Re: Are You A Werewolf? - Tomous vs. Kanbei

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:59 pm
by Zellery
Mini E wrote:If neither tomous or kanbei turn out to be wolves then we should be looking at who quietly changed their votes without any vocal reasoning or, more importantly, who only voted for the first time once the tomous platform was announced.

I think we may need to also look at the people you put up for the lynch. If the vote was swung, it could have been done so to protect one of them.

Re: Are You A Werewolf? - Tomous vs. Kanbei

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:01 pm
by Corazon de Leon
Dandy Kong wrote:How can you tell someone is checking their PMs?


At the moment you can't. Normally you can go into the Who is Online section at the bottom of the main page and see what people are doing, e.g. browsing off topic, composing a private message etc etc.