Re: Are you religious?
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:32 am
Are you religious?
Nope.
Are you religious?
Stig wrote:Someone over on another forum I visit has posted this:The way I see it religion feeds the most basic fear in humans - The Fear of the Unknown. Believers use religion to pacify this fear, whilst Atheists mollify it by denying that anything else exists so there is nothing to fear
The real baddies are the ones that exploit this fear in others to control them
Which I find very difficult to disagree with.
Octoroc wrote:Witcher wrote:Octoroc wrote:Witcher wrote:Religion's for people can't think for themselves - it's irrational - and since it's clearly rooted in insecurities, it's weak
Not as weak as your grammar.
Oh I missed out one word... wow your point is soo strong - pathetic.
...I was thinking more about the three apostrophes you failed to insert in the correct places... Just for fun, see if you can find them...
Denster wrote:Mini E wrote:Denster wrote:My invisible friend is better than yours - thats what religion is.
People grasp hold of ludicrous beliefs because they don't like the idea that we are alone. That we are here because of a happy accident. There is no guiding force. No justice in the end. No reward for a lifetime of sacrifice and self denial.
We live and die. How we do both is all that should concern us.
Religion is a conjurors trick to distract us from looking into the abyss.
I do pity you if this is all you can see in life. I do genuinely pity that you're not more open to possibilities.
You're agreat guy denny, But your post there really ... Bullshit in my opinion mate.
I'm sorry you feel that way - although your pity would be far better applied elsewhere. As i have said. This is not a bleak outlook. I love life and love my life but dont need the additional support that it has to mean something in the grand scheme of things. I accept that my life is just on of billions and the universe will not notice when i have gone. Thats self awareness and its a marvellous thing. Far more miraculous to me than myths and ancient chinese whispers dressed up as fact.
Moderator Sir Geoff wrote:I am not a religious man, I simply believe in God. As for the Big Bang theory, it's fake I'm afraid. Can't believe in that. Way too simple and it doesn't even make sense, if everything blew up then how could it exist? Those people on the Internet should have thought of that when they came up with the Big bang theory. Besides there would have to be a god, the world is too great for it not to be.
Skarjo wrote:Mind Crime wrote:…A question for Mic: I saw that you said that these people (the Phelps nutters) have misinterpreted the Bible. What do you make of the passage that states that a man should be put to death for lying with another man the way he would with a woman?
…when people are basing their beliefs on the Bible, surely they have to follow this part as well? …but doesn't this make a case for the 'pick and choose' aspects of a flawed religion?
Now we're talking!
17 pages but we ******* got there!
Gentlemen, start your engines.
Mind Crime wrote:…I don't mean to be rude…I completely respect that other people can choose to live their lives by word of the Bible…
Mind Crime wrote:…but I just don't understand this part of it. It really does seem to me like you have either ignore parts of it or become a complete animal, like the Westboro loonies.
Skarjo wrote:… I'm sure I'm getting it wrong (possibly on purpose for effect, who knows?) but I don't think mic considered killing homosexuals murder… I think he considers gays to be akin to livestock or something…
Denster wrote:Mr Plough wrote:That is quite a bleak world view there Denster though I suspect its just the way you put it. I think the fact that the human mind even has the ability to comprehend its own existence is quite a comforting thought whether or not its the result of a creative force. If anything the lack of a creator makes us even more unique.
No its not bleak. I have a fierce joy of life and for all of its wonders and beauty. I just enjoy it for what it is and try to enjoy my time here as much as i can. I just dont need to explain my existence in terms of why im here and what does it all mean. Some many lives have been wasted in senseless conflicts, persecutions and living lives hamstrung by relgious dogma when you can just be free. I try to live my life in a way that benefits myself and those closest to me. I chose a profession where im helping and looking after people who are much less fortunate than myself and i try and avoid causing harm or distress to anyone if i can avoid it. This is a conscious choice by a free thinking person not because i have been told to do so or feel compelled to do so by an outdated set of rules.
Corazon wrote:I respect Aaron's post, to be honest. You'll never find me, or most of us who aren't priests, cardinals or whatever, saying anything about pitying those who don't believe in God. Because you're just as likely to be right, at the end, as we are. It's just another viewpoint, innit? We don't know what happens when we die. In the main though, for me it doesn't matter that I'm a Catholic, I'd like to think I lived and improved some people's lives, instead of just selfishly toddled through my own regardless of what my creed is. I just like to think that there's something more to life than death. If that makes me a weak person, then I'm weak. Doesn't matter to me, and I won't argue with you about it.
Edit: I'm a Catholic, btw. You may now slander.
Corazon wrote:Edit 2: This thread has been going round in circles for 21 pages. Can we not just agree that the Phelps family and those like them are a disgrace to humanity and let it be?
Your post typifies what I think most religious people would interpret as faith. Faith is just putting your beleif and hope more than anything else in there being something more to the Universe and insisting that the Universe is more than just a coincidence.
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mic wrote:One more thing – I can only imagine that shocking ignorance is the cause of this thread frequently reiterating that Catholics are Christians. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME AT ALL.
Atreyu wrote:mic wrote:One more thing – I can only imagine that shocking ignorance is the cause of this thread frequently reiterating that Catholics are Christians. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME AT ALL.
Afternoon, all.
For hard-of-thinking who've turned up late to the porch-party, could you talk me through this one, mic?
Octoroc wrote:Atreyu wrote:mic wrote:One more thing – I can only imagine that shocking ignorance is the cause of this thread frequently reiterating that Catholics are Christians. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME AT ALL.
Afternoon, all.
For hard-of-thinking who've turned up late to the porch-party, could you talk me through this one, mic?
Catholics are icon worshipping pagans in the thrall of the Antichrist (or Pope if you like).
Octoroc wrote:Atreyu wrote:mic wrote:One more thing – I can only imagine that shocking ignorance is the cause of this thread frequently reiterating that Catholics are Christians. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME AT ALL.
Afternoon, all.
For hard-of-thinking who've turned up late to the porch-party, could you talk me through this one, mic?
Catholics are icon worshipping pagans in the thrall of the Antichrist (or Pope if you like).
Atreyu wrote:Octoroc wrote:Atreyu wrote:mic wrote:One more thing – I can only imagine that shocking ignorance is the cause of this thread frequently reiterating that Catholics are Christians. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME AT ALL.
Afternoon, all.
For hard-of-thinking who've turned up late to the porch-party, could you talk me through this one, mic?
Catholics are icon worshipping pagans in the thrall of the Antichrist (or Pope if you like).
Cheers. Good to have that one cleared up. Will come as a surprise to a few people, but I guess that's the way the wafer crumbles.