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Re: Argos stops printing The Bible

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:19 pm
by Moggy
Curls wrote:
Moggy wrote:"The Welsh language should die!"

"Why?"

"Because it costs Argos a fortune"


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Re: Argos stops printing The Bible

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:26 pm
by That
Curls wrote:It's like in Wales. With any letters sent (hospitals, council etc) they waste DOUBLE the amount of paper to print everything off in gobbeldigook. I argue and argue that it's just a waste of paper, and then all my homeboys call me unpatriotic. strawberry floaters can't speak welsh themselves.


A lot of people feel that keeping the Welsh language alive in Wales is an important part of the country's history and culture.

It might feel a bit performative in places like Cardiff where Welsh-speakers are rare, but in other parts e.g. up in Gwynedd there's real hope of keeping a community going of first-language Welsh speakers, for the foreseeable future.

Re: Argos stops printing The Bible

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:36 pm
by Vermilion
Ironhide wrote:Your lies make the baby Jesus cry.


He's a baby, he'll get over it. 8-)

Re: Argos stops printing The Bible

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:01 pm
by Curls
Karl_ wrote:
Curls wrote:It's like in Wales. With any letters sent (hospitals, council etc) they waste DOUBLE the amount of paper to print everything off in gobbeldigook. I argue and argue that it's just a waste of paper, and then all my homeboys call me unpatriotic. strawberry floaters can't speak welsh themselves.


A lot of people feel that keeping the Welsh language alive in Wales is an important part of the country's history and culture.

It might feel a bit performative in places like Cardiff where Welsh-speakers are rare, but in other parts e.g. up in Gwynedd there's real hope of keeping a community going of first-language Welsh speakers, for the foreseeable future.


Send the letters only in Welsh then ;-)

I understand why, I just have always had a bit of a chip on my shoulder about. A letter for a blood test doesn't need to be in Welsh. If the person speaks english, just send it in the one language, if the person says they speak welsh, then send it in the one language. Don't waste trees.

Re: Argos stops printing The Bible

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:32 pm
by Ironhide
Curls wrote:
Karl_ wrote:
Curls wrote:It's like in Wales. With any letters sent (hospitals, council etc) they waste DOUBLE the amount of paper to print everything off in gobbeldigook. I argue and argue that it's just a waste of paper, and then all my homeboys call me unpatriotic. strawberry floaters can't speak welsh themselves.


A lot of people feel that keeping the Welsh language alive in Wales is an important part of the country's history and culture.

It might feel a bit performative in places like Cardiff where Welsh-speakers are rare, but in other parts e.g. up in Gwynedd there's real hope of keeping a community going of first-language Welsh speakers, for the foreseeable future.


Send the letters only in Welsh then ;-)

I understand why, I just have always had a bit of a chip on my shoulder about. A letter for a blood test doesn't need to be in Welsh. If the person speaks english, just send it in the one language, if the person says they speak welsh, then send it in the one language. Don't waste trees.


Are there actually Welsh people who can only speak Welsh?

I always thought all the Welsh (and Gaelic) language stuff was more about preserving cultural heritage than catering to a demographic who literally can't speak any other language.

Re: Argos stops printing The Bible

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:41 pm
by Curls
I think Glyn from big brother could only speak welsh. Noone else though.

Re: Argos stops printing The Bible

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:11 pm
by Knoyleo
Curls, stopiwch.

Re: Argos stops printing The Bible

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:05 am
by Jenuall
Even in places like Cardiff, Swansea and Newport there are a significant number of first language Welsh speakers and I think it's absolutely justified that printed and other communication in Wales is bilingual.

I find that most letters I receive tend to be printed in a more compact and space conscious style than those in England - accomodating both languages across a similar amount of physical space and paper that the English equivalent would have used for just one translation

Re: Argos stops printing The Bible

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:52 am
by Victor Mildew
If Welsh was eradicated, we'd never have got one of the best red dwarf jokes.

Re: Argos stops printing The Bible

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:27 am
by Knoyleo
I just don't see any legitimate reason to get narked about there being the native language on government correspondence. Welsh is an official language, so is English, it makes sense to use both. If you're that concerned about paper waste, English only correspondence is still infinitely more wasteful than any form of digital communication, so why aren't you simply pushing for that, instead of asking for the removal of a language that clearly matters a lot to many people, and has seen a marked effort in recent years to have reinvigorated?

Re: Argos stops printing The Bible

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:06 pm
by Ironhide
Knoyleo wrote:Welsh is an official language, so is English,?


As odd as it sounds, the UK doesn't actually have an official language as such.

Neither do Australia, New Zealand and Canada, among other English speaking countries.

Re: Argos stops printing The Bible

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:23 pm
by That
Ironhide wrote:
Knoyleo wrote:Welsh is an official language, so is English,?


As odd as it sounds, the UK doesn't actually have an official language as such.

Neither do Australia, New Zealand and Canada, among other English speaking countries.


The UK doesn't have an official language, but Wales does. Under Welsh law, both English and Welsh are the official languages of Wales.