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PostRe: Balan Wonderworld | 3D platformer From the creator of NIGHTS | Coming to next gen and current gen consoles
by OrangeRKN » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:30 am

I don't understand who signed off on this demo being so big and why. Cynically you'd think they'd have probably sold more copies if they didn't release a demo at all considering the reception it has got, and surely anyone involved could have predicted that. Just another mystery of the game's development :lol:

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PostRe: Balan Wonderworld | 3D platformer From the creator of NIGHTS | Coming to next gen and current gen consoles
by Lotus » Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:43 pm

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Lotus wrote:Other things like the controls and platforming are very basic though. Basic controls aren't bad per se, but for what seems to be a platformer at heart, it's strange that you're quite limited in how you can traverse the levels, even with the costumes.


I mean, I think they probably are. Movement speed is painfully slow, and I think this is partly responsible for the lack of horizontal distance you can get from a jump (there is also not much air control I think because gravity is quite strong so you get this steep curve on the drop). If moving and jumping isn't fun or effective then I think it fails on platformer fundamentals. None of the costumes I've used have passed that same test, like how the sheep's whole gimmick is floating in the air but the floating speed is glacial. The delay on switching costumes kills any momentum in trying to chain their use together and makes the frequent requirement to switch a chore. There isn't any variation or moveset beyond jump and whatever one power a costume has, even down to things like jump being fixed height regardless of length of button press, no edge grabbing, no movement acceleration up to a sprint. Things like a lack of double jump aren't platforming necessities but they are popular mechanics for giving the player much more control and mechanical depth, so if you don't have them and opt for mechanical purity you should ensure the mechanics you do have are highly punished and fun to use. They just aren't. Also the camera is pretty janky, not exactly a surprise for the genre but still a valid complaint!

With this I meant that basic controls in general, in any game, aren't necessarily a bad thing, but in Balan Wonderland they seem too basic for what the game is and what you're expected to do in it. I was getting annoyed with the camera too, although I think that's partly down to me and a weird thing I have with the vertical camera controls (far too boring to go into) which doesn't help.

I definitely started out thinking the game was intriguing and oddly appealing, but that feeling waned as the demo went on (and it sounds like I barely scratched the surface of the demo).

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PostRe: Balan Wonderworld | 3D platformer From the creator of NIGHTS | Coming to next gen and current gen consoles
by OrangeRKN » Sun Jan 31, 2021 3:27 pm

Ah I read "Basic controls" as "The basic controls of the game" whereas you meant "Controls that are basic" - I get you now!

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PostRe: Balan Wonderworld | 3D platformer From the creator of NIGHTS | Coming to next gen and current gen consoles
by shy guy 64 » Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:33 pm

gave the demo a little go, it really show that its from the maker of sonic. im gonna keep thinking it was made by sega

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PostRe: Balan Wonderworld | 3D platformer From the creator of NIGHTS | Coming to next gen and current gen consoles
by Balladeer » Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:10 pm

Because this game needed more issues: https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2021/ ... c_seizures

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PostRe: Balan Wonderworld | 3D platformer From the creator of NIGHTS | Coming to next gen and current gen consoles
by rinks » Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:49 pm

As much as I want to buy it right now, for the sheer stupidity of it, you just know it’s going to be under £20 in a month or so.

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PostRe: Balan Wonderworld | 3D platformer From the creator of NIGHTS | Coming to next gen and current gen consoles
by imbusydoctorwho » Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:58 pm

Gonna hit the bargain bins quicker than Anthem imo.
Has there been any reviews drop yet?

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PostRe: Balan Wonderworld | 3D platformer From the creator of NIGHTS | Coming to next gen and current gen consoles
by shy guy 64 » Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:31 pm

so how is the game? when i played the demo it took my right back to game cube era 3d platformers so id want to get it

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PostRe: Balan Wonderworld | 3D platformer From the creator of NIGHTS | Coming to next gen and current gen consoles
by rinks » Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:01 am

£28 on eBay (seller Boss_deals) with the code PICKSAVE20. A bit more for the PS5 version.

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PostRe: Balan Wonderworld | 3D platformer From the creator of NIGHTS | Coming to next gen and current gen consoles
by fry87 » Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:49 pm

imbusydoctorwho wrote:Gonna hit the bargain bins quicker than Anthem imo.
Has there been any reviews drop yet?


https://www.videogameschronicle.com/rev ... world/amp/

What I've read of the review reflects my feelings about the demo. It just feels very old school, but not in a good way. I love the platforming genre, but this did nothing for me.

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PostRe: Balan Wonderworld | 3D platformer From the creator of NIGHTS | Coming to next gen and current gen consoles
by Lime » Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:01 pm

Balladeer wrote:Because this game needed more issues: https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2021/ ... c_seizures


Woah that is nasty. Fortunately I don't suffer from epilepsy but I clicked through to the clip from the article to see if it was anything particularly shocking. It's horrendous, definitely made me feel odd for a while, and would put me off playing it if there was a risk of encountering that effect.

I hope it's a mandatory patch.

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PostRe: Balan Wonderworld | 3D platformer From the creator of NIGHTS | Coming to next gen and current gen consoles
by Preezy » Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:20 pm



Absolute garbage.

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PostRe: Balan Wonderworld | 3D platformer From the creator of NIGHTS | Coming to next gen and current gen consoles
by Barnsy! » Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:13 pm

OrangeRKN wrote:I don't understand who signed off on this demo being so big and why. Cynically you'd think they'd have probably sold more copies if they didn't release a demo at all considering the reception it has got, and surely anyone involved could have predicted that. Just another mystery of the game's development :lol:


I'm in the camp of people that would have happily bought this day 1 full price, even despite the reviews just based on it being a colourful 3d platformer that visually reminds me a bit of Sonic Colours had I not played the demo. I do feel a bit guilty about that - but I just didn't think it was very good. I will still purchase and play it but Im not in a rush and probably not at full price.

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PostRe: Balan Wonderworld | 3D platformer From the creator of NIGHTS | Coming to next gen and current gen consoles
by Ironhide » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:44 pm

Lime wrote:
Balladeer wrote:Because this game needed more issues: https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2021/ ... c_seizures


Woah that is nasty. Fortunately I don't suffer from epilepsy but I clicked through to the clip from the article to see if it was anything particularly shocking. It's horrendous, definitely made me feel odd for a while, and would put me off playing it if there was a risk of encountering that effect.

I hope it's a mandatory patch.


I'm not epileptic but christ that's horrible, my eyes feel violated.

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PostRe: Balan Wonderworld | 3D platformer From the creator of NIGHTS | Coming to next gen and current gen consoles
by Preezy » Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:38 pm



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PostRe: Balan Wonderworld | 3D platformer From the creator of NIGHTS | Coming to next gen and current gen consoles
by rinks » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:19 am

Is that a Jim Sterling tribute act?

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PostRe: Balan Wonderworld | 3D platformer From the creator of NIGHTS | Coming to next gen and current gen consoles
by Dig Dug » Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:21 am

Yuji Naka will no doubt be slotted into the “fraud” category alongside Keiji Inafune and Peter Molyneux after this.

He gets too much credibility for “creating” sonic when his creative peak was directing the mega drive sonic games and programming the dungeons in phantasy star.

Sonic Team’s Saturn and Dreamcast output were likely as much to do with his team and Sega’s backing as it was him.

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PostRe: Balan Wonderworld | 3D platformer From the creator of NIGHTS | Coming to next gen and current gen consoles
by rinks » Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:52 am

Sells fewer than 2,100 copies in Japan in first week.
https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/20 ... sales/amp/

Then gets 30/40 in Famitsu.
https://mynintendonews.com/2021/04/14/j ... ets-30-40/

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PostRe: Balan Wonderworld | 3D platformer From the creator of NIGHTS | Coming to next gen and current gen consoles
by That » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:22 am

One of the Famitsu panel gave it 9/10.

I guess you could say it moved them... to a bigger house!

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PostRe: Balan Wonderworld | 3D platformer From the creator of NIGHTS | Coming to next gen and current gen consoles
by That » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:29 am

Also, I'm not epileptic but those flashes really dazed me. Absolutely awful to put them in the game. No way someone didn't realise, so why are they still there?

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