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Re: Mixer Streaming Service - Ninja now streaming exclusively on Mixer

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:37 pm
by Photek
He must be getting a sh*t ton of money, Also pretty sure he can’t go back to twitch, it’s against their terms and conditions to stream on another platform once you’re partnered.

Re: Mixer Streaming Service - Ninja now streaming exclusively on Mixer

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:47 pm
by Monkey Man
Venom wrote:It also makes me think that my conspiracy theory is true: I saw that PewDiePie is streaming Minecraft and now everybody else seems to be - is it because Microsoft is paying him? These serious influencers really have the power to, um... influence.


MS aren't paying him or others. If they are, by law, they have to clearly show it's paid with something like #Ad or #Sponsored in the stream.

Minecraft is having a big comeback in 2019

Keemstar had convinced YouTube king Felix “PewDiePie” Kjellberg to participate in the event alongside beauty guru James Charles. Suddenly, nearly every big name on YouTube and Twitch was playing Mojang’s sandbox game. Minecraft became a spectacle once again. According to Keemstar, millions of people tune in to his show every week.

A lot more info here on Minecraft making a slight comeback - https://www.polygon.com/2019/8/1/207279 ... aft-monday

Re: Mixer Streaming Service - Ninja now streaming exclusively on Mixer

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:48 pm
by Mafro
A lot of money to pay for a strawberry floating banana split.

Re: Mixer Streaming Service - Ninja now streaming exclusively on Mixer

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:10 am
by Photek
He is a bit of a pleb alright, didn’t realise he started out as a pro Halo 3 player, no doubt he’ll be pushing Infinite when it launches.

Re: Mixer Streaming Service - Ninja now streaming exclusively on Mixer

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:46 am
by Knoyleo
strawberry float streamers and influencer culture. Absolute toxic bullshit.

Re: Mixer Streaming Service - Ninja now streaming exclusively on Mixer

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:57 am
by Tafdolphin
Knoyleo wrote:strawberry float streamers and influencer culture. Absolute toxic bullshit.


Like any media streaming is a mix of quality and intentions that, in this case, is dominated by nonsense and dangerous toxicity. PewDiePie is consistently linked to radicalisation and far right views, Ninja himself has towed the old 'no unescorted women' bullshit that Pence is on and DrDisrespect should have been arrested for filming live from a men's toilet at E3.

But there is good stuff. Look at HBomberguy's charity stream where he raised £300 000 for Mermaids in response to transphobe Graham Linehan getting their Lottery funding placed under review. Or Paladin Amber who's made calling out sexist capital G Gamers an art form:

twitter.com/PaladinAmber/status/1151363237985697793



Or the GuardianCon Destiny streams that raised $400 000 dollars for charity. It's a big old mixed bag where the scum has, unfortunately, risen to the top.

Influencer culture though is pretty much a trash fire though. strawberry float that gooseberry fool.

Re: Mixer Streaming Service - Ninja now streaming exclusively on Mixer

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:06 am
by Knoyleo
Tafdolphin wrote:
Knoyleo wrote:strawberry float streamers and influencer culture. Absolute toxic bullshit.


Like any media streaming is a mix of quality and intentions that, in this case, is dominated by nonsense and dangerous toxicity. PewDiePie is consistently linked to radicalisation and far right views, Ninja himself has towed the old 'no unescorted women' bullshit that Pence is on and DrDisrespect should have been arrested for filming live from a men's toilet at E3.

But there is good stuff. Look at HBomberguy's charity stream where he raised £300 000 for Mermaids in response to transphobe Graham Linehan getting their Lottery funding placed under review. Or Paladin Amber who's made calling out sexist capital G Gamers an art form:

twitter.com/PaladinAmber/status/1151363237985697793



Or the GuardianCon Destiny streams that raised $400 000 dollars for charity. It's a big old mixed bag where the scum has, unfortunately, risen to the top.

Influencer culture though is pretty much a trash fire though. strawberry float that gooseberry fool.

Sure, there are some people doing good with streaming, but the amount of money that floats around in that system is nauseating, and its being paid mainly to idiot teenagers playing games in their bedroom, rather than the developers who actually made the games that are the content the whole medium was founded on. Why the strawberry float should "No girls allowed" Ninja get $1m for playing Apex Legends for a week, when the devs who actually made that game will only ever see a fraction of that? The whole system is utterly out of whack.

Re: Mixer Streaming Service - Ninja now streaming exclusively on Mixer

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:17 am
by Tafdolphin
Agree on that, for sure.

Re: Mixer Streaming Service - Ninja now streaming exclusively on Mixer

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:17 am
by Jenuall
Star power though isn't it - the "face" of something will almost always benefit more than the people behind the scenes that enable them to do their thing.

Re: Mixer Streaming Service - Ninja now streaming exclusively on Mixer

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:38 am
by Monkey Man
Famous people get paid, it's a tale as old as time. Streamers are attractive to advertisers as they reach the most saught after and difficult to reach demographic.

Re: Mixer Streaming Service - Ninja now streaming exclusively on Mixer

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:47 am
by Tafdolphin
This is that model taken to a logical extreme though. It's a symptom of a broken system.

Re: Mixer Streaming Service - Ninja now streaming exclusively on Mixer

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:51 am
by Monkey Man
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Re: Mixer Streaming Service - Ninja now streaming exclusively on Mixer

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:08 pm
by Venom
It looks like my high end guesstimate of $50 million might be too low, Keemstar believes it could be at the $100 million end! This is nothing for Microsoft if it causes a major movement of audience to their streaming platform. Keemstar is happy about it because he, and some others, feel that the twitter moderators and management have biases.




A lot more info here on Minecraft making a slight comeback - https://www.polygon.com/2019/8/1/207279 ... aft-monday


ta for link, I've been watching all sorts of random shite, Jack Septiceye recently said that Minecraft presents less demonitisation risks. But, to me, Minecraft seems timeless because of it's openness and draw to kids (and adults). I'm too old for FPSs but I would have thought a game like Fortnite has a shelf life, but maybe there truly can be an a gaming equivalent of football. I went to Paris Games Show in 2015 and was surprised to see a massive seating area filled with people watching League of Legends matches.

Re: Mixer Streaming Service - Ninja now streaming exclusively on Mixer

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:11 pm
by Tafdolphin
That makes me feel physically ill. $100 million. What the strawberry float kind of world are we living in?

Re: Mixer Streaming Service - Ninja now streaming exclusively on Mixer

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:31 pm
by Peter Crisp
Knoyleo wrote:strawberry float streamers and influencer culture. Absolute toxic bullshit.


Yep, the fact they go about expecting free stuff and moaning like babies if they don't get it because they think that being an "influencer" makes them special is also sickening :evil: .

Re: Mixer Streaming Service - Ninja now streaming exclusively on Mixer

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:35 pm
by Peter Crisp
It's also amazing that people still freely give people like him money when he obviously doesn't need it.

Yes, ok I can see why people donate to tiny channels but people are giving money to a guy who has more money than most people will have in 10 lifetimes.

Re: Mixer Streaming Service - Ninja now streaming exclusively on Mixer

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:39 pm
by Pedz
Peter Crisp wrote:
Knoyleo wrote:strawberry float streamers and influencer culture. Absolute toxic bullshit.


Yep, the fact they go about expecting free stuff and moaning like babies if they don't get it because they think that being an "influencer" makes them special is also sickening :evil: .


They're basically celebrities and I guess they are treated that way.

Re: Mixer Streaming Service - Ninja now streaming exclusively on Mixer

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:28 pm
by Garth
Apparently he's got 300K followers. Around 67K currently watching.

Re: Mixer Streaming Service - Ninja now streaming exclusively on Mixer

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:08 pm
by Photek
Knoyleo wrote:Why the strawberry float should "No girls allowed" Ninja get $1m for playing Apex Legends for a week, when the devs who actually made that game will only ever see a fraction of that? The whole system is utterly out of whack.

Oh you’re one of those. “Why do premier league footballers earn more than fire fighters” “why do TV presenters earn more than nurses?” etc ad infinitum.

Re: Mixer Streaming Service - Ninja now streaming exclusively on Mixer

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:51 pm
by Monkey Man

twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1157322042649321473



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Apparently got 370k subs which are all free at the moment. He's currently duoing with the kid who won the Fortnite Solo World Cup along with $3m.