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by Tafdolphin » Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:59 pm

Hime wrote:Taf do you not think that you can occasionally be guilty of a bit of confirmation bias? You seem to decide you either love it hate something and just surround yourself with opinions that validate your opinion, Red Dead 2, The Last of Us 2 and Prey spring to mind. I understand that this is receiving a lot of negativity from the internet but seriously, what doesn't?


I do, but I don't think this is unusual. Anyone claiming they aren't a victim of confirmation bias is, well, lying to themselves to some degree.

I would argue with you sayin 'everything gets negative reviews on the internet.' I mean, in this context. Of course everything gets negative reviews on the internet. Here though I don't think it's a stretch to say F76 is receiving more negative reviews than positive and due to the developer and the franchise I think this is worth notice.

Like I mentioned above, I did indeed cherry pick a few reports in order to support my own viewpoint but I simply haven't seen any majority positive YouTube impression pieces. I mean RPS seemed to get along OK with it here

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/1 ... ilderness/

and here

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/1 ... e-fallout/

But that's about the most positive pieces on my radar.

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PostRe: Fallout '76 Announced
by Hime » Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:26 pm

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Hime wrote:Taf do you not think that you can occasionally be guilty of a bit of confirmation bias? You seem to decide you either love it hate something and just surround yourself with opinions that validate your opinion, Red Dead 2, The Last of Us 2 and Prey spring to mind. I understand that this is receiving a lot of negativity from the internet but seriously, what doesn't?


I do, but I don't think this is unusual. Anyone claiming they aren't a victim of confirmation bias is, well, lying to themselves to some degree.

I would argue with you sayin 'everything gets negative reviews on the internet.' I mean, in this context. Of course everything gets negative reviews on the internet. Here though I don't think it's a stretch to say F76 is receiving more negative reviews than positive and due to the developer and the franchise I think this is worth notice.

Like I mentioned above, I did indeed cherry pick a few reports in order to support my own viewpoint but I simply haven't seen any majority positive YouTube impression pieces. I mean RPS seemed to get along OK with it here

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/1 ... ilderness/

and here

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/1 ... e-fallout/

But that's about the most positive pieces on my radar.

I guess you're right, I just try to have a bit of an open mind when it comes to the internet's reaction, especially as it gets harder and harder to tell who's opinion is valid, who is falling in with the prescribed narrative and who is just after the hits. Then there is also three fact that games criticism seems to be more about opinion pieces and finding people who have similar tastes to yourself so there will be perfectly valid positive and negative view points but they might not be relevant to yourself.

I totally understand why people have an issue with the direction that Bethesda are going with Fallout, especially given the like warm reception to Fallout 4 but open world loot games are all the rage at the moment and while it's more than likely a financial design than an artistic one, Fallout 3 for me is the open world loot game so
I think they deserve a shot.

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PostRe: Fallout '76 Announced
by Hime » Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:36 pm

Brerlappin wrote:To be fair, Taf did change his opinion on Prey.

Ironic that that is the one game he has actually played ;)

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PostRe: Fallout '76 Announced
by Tafdolphin » Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:53 pm

Give it 10 months and I'll be back in here singing 76's praise.

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PostRe: Fallout '76 Announced
by jawafour » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:15 am

I'm hugely conflicted about the game. I want to like it, but would I?

I've spent a bit of time watching and reading opinions about the Beta. There *are* problems... but the technical ones are maybe solvable and I can still see potential.

I liked how this guy took a look at both the negative and positive aspects.



At this time, I'm veering back towards being on-board. Not definitely... but maybe.

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PostRe: Fallout '76 Announced
by LewisD » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:31 am

If anything, it's made me tempted to go home and start a fresh Fallout 4 game.
It's been long enough that I should have forgotten most of it by now...

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by <]:^D » Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:43 pm

the frame-rate tied to the speed of physics is incredibly bad.
how did they not notice it during playtesting?
oh yeah its Bethesda they dont playtest

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PostRe: Fallout '76 Announced
by Meep » Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:35 pm

Betheda has a special title for their playtesters. They call them "customers".

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PostRe: Fallout '76 Announced
by Pedz » Sat Nov 03, 2018 5:45 pm

I couldn't get into 4, I tried twice on PC and PS4. I streamed them to give me more incentive to play them and I was bored.

I liked 3 and really liked Vegas, but didn't finish it.

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PostRe: Fallout '76 Announced
by LewisD » Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:20 pm

Brerlappin wrote:
LewisD wrote:If anything, it's made me tempted to go home and start a fresh Fallout 4 game.
It's been long enough that I should have forgotten most of it by now...


Do 3 or New Vegas. Fallout 4 is a gooseberry fool Fallout game


I would, but 4 is all I have :(

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PostRe: Fallout '76 Announced
by Ad7 » Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:24 pm

4 really is a gooseberry fool fallout game. I was borderline addicted to 3 and new Vegas, and I never got close to finishing 4.

As much as I like a bethesda RPG, I wish they'd give it back to someone like obsidian.

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PostRe: Fallout '76 Announced
by Meep » Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:58 pm

There were a few things improved in 4. I like being able to customise my own base just how I want it (although I simply could not be arsed doing the same for all the settlements - seriously why couldn't there be an option to have the settlers build stuff for themsleves?) and the weapons were fun to muck around with and customise. In most other ways it was a backwards step though, in terms of overall game design and narrative.

The best part of Fallout 4 was actually the Far Harbour DLC, which actually gave you mulitple ways of solving quests and made you pause for thought on occasion rather than brainlessly following the next quest marker.

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PostRe: Fallout '76 Announced
by jawafour » Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:30 am

jawafour wrote:...At this time, I'm veering back towards being on-board. Not definitely... but maybe.

Dang it, I just don't know.

There are issues...

- Weak (or, rather, hard to concentrate on due to other players) storyline aspects
- (Some) other players being jerks
- VATS shooting that isn't really VATS shooting
- Queue and wait at certain plot elements until other players have finished using them

... but there are positives, too.

+ Huge open world to explore
+ Despite some grumbles about the game engine, the environments do look beautiful at times
+ I like MMO-styled games; it can be fun to see other players!
+ The game can - potentially - evolve on a continual basis

My thinking is changing with every new opinion that I read / watch. I don't think I'm going to make a decision until the last moment before launch.

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PostRe: Fallout '76 Announced
by Alvin Flummux » Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:36 am

Watched the missus play this last night. There was a Wanted person on the map, so we decided to hunt them down.

Kinda hard to inflict wasteland justice on a guy who won't stop fast traveling! :x

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PostRe: Fallout '76 Announced
by Hexx » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:54 pm

LewisD wrote:
Brerlappin wrote:
LewisD wrote:If anything, it's made me tempted to go home and start a fresh Fallout 4 game.
It's been long enough that I should have forgotten most of it by now...


Do 3 or New Vegas. Fallout 4 is a gooseberry fool Fallout game


I would, but 4 is all I have :(


New Vegas is £8/£15with DLC on Steam

Mod it and go nuts!

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PostRe: Fallout '76 Announced
by LewisD » Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:23 pm

Don't have a computer in the house anymore :(

Only phones, one iPad and my consoles. :(

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PostRe: Fallout '76 Announced
by jawafour » Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:57 pm

Pete Hines of Bethesda, talking to GameSpot, wrote:"How long is [Fallout 76] going to be up? Forever," Hines told GameSpot, doubling down on what he's said before. "I don't know how to give an answer other than that. It's not like anybody makes a game and goes, 'Well this is going to make it for 10 years if we're lucky.' ... this is a massive franchise and a massive undertaking, and our commitment to it is it is never-ending, and that it continues on an ongoing basis."

I like the sound of this. Of course, with online gaming you never know what could happen, but it does sound lke Bethesda are committed to on-going development and support for the game. I feel that the launch period could prove tricky in terms of player expectations and experiences, but I have hope that the game will evolve over a long period of time.

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PostRe: Fallout '76 Announced
by Alvin Flummux » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:11 pm

If they don't pull an EA and abandon it at the first sign of negativity, it might do very well in terms of content. ESO has had a ton since it launched and if 76 gets similarly dedicated support it could really thrive.

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PostRe: Fallout '76 Announced
by Hexx » Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:23 pm

LewisD wrote:Don't have a computer in the house anymore :(

Only phones, one iPad and my consoles. :(


It's BC on Xbox One!

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PostRe: Fallout '76 Announced
by LewisD » Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:43 pm

No Xbox :(

I'm going to have to buy an xbox aren't I?


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