Better Call Saul - prequel to Breaking Bad. Series Finale out now on Netflix.

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by Lex-Man » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:54 pm

If we do go back to Nebraska what actually happens?

Does Lalo survive? Is Kim in some kind of trouble and needs help?

Really nothing bad has happened in Nerbraska, like one guy recognised him as that lawyer from New Mexico.

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by Jenuall » Sat Apr 30, 2022 10:56 pm

Just caught up on the first three episodes, just incredible stuff.

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by Moggy » Tue May 03, 2022 4:59 pm

Jimmy dressed up as Howard :lol:

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by Barnsy! » Tue May 03, 2022 9:07 pm

Moving the cone - Audi drivers can be entitled pricks! When Howard was in the therapy session and said 'well I've been having this dream' then it cut to Jimmy in the 'Howard cosplay' we was going to get a narrated dream sequence of some weird Freudian nightmare where Howard was fused with Jimmy? :D

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Regarding the current Jimmy/Kim story line, I don't currently feel super invested. It is all all little too contrived - complexity for complexity's sake. If this is the season long arc, I'm going to grow weary of it. Perhaps because I've never felt a really strong dislike to Howard.


I get the feeling the Sandpiper / bringing-down-of-Howard might be a bit of a red herring. I think it isn't going anywhere and is really a vehicle for showcasing Kim 'breaking bad'. Kims always been smart and conscientious, but she's been kind of coercing Jimmy on this one who seems conflicted about it all. Whilst we get why they don't like Howard, its ambiguous if he deserves any of this. Their justification for the sandpiper thing was that she could help people but at the lunch, the lawyer from the other firm sort of committed to try and get funding for their cause - if they get said funding and still decide to go ahead with their scheme - it will show even more that bringing down Howard is a non-virtuous vendetta motivated choice.

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by Victor Mildew » Tue May 03, 2022 10:35 pm

Another great episode.

Poor Howard :lol: I feel sorry for him, what's he done to deserve them destroying his life for laughs? Jimmy dressed as him though :lol: The jag fob also got a laugh from me as a neighbour used to have the same model in that colour, and loved walking far enough away that locking would have people look around to see it's his car.

Gus' surveillance team. Loved the disgust at the house colour, had a real moan about your neighbours thread vibe. Chicken bloke.

Also it explains how Gus knew Walter was near his house when he went to kill him that night.

"....go home Walter".

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by Clarkman » Tue May 03, 2022 10:40 pm

Barnsy! wrote:I get the feeling the Sandpiper / bringing-down-of-Howard might be a bit of a red herring. I think it isn't going anywhere and is really a vehicle for showcasing Kim 'breaking bad'. Kims always been smart and conscientious, but she's been kind of coercing Jimmy on this one who seems conflicted about it all. Whilst we get why they don't like Howard, its ambiguous if he deserves any of this. Their justification for the sandpiper thing was that she could help people but at the lunch, the lawyer from the other firm sort of committed to try and get funding for their cause - if they get said funding and still decide to go ahead with their scheme - it will show even more that bringing down Howard is a non-virtuous vendetta motivated choice.


Is there any precedent for Gilligan's team writing red herrings of this magnitude? I really feel like that outcome would be disservice to the final season. Jimmy and Kim's plot has become the light refreshment for the meat of the narrative.

For episode 4: the show spends an entire season explaining how Fring's meth lab is built, then happily skims over how he constructed a secret underground tunnel on a residential street :slol:

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by Jenuall » Fri May 06, 2022 9:59 am

Great episode again, love the return of Jimmy Hamlin, must have kept hold of the suit from his billboard shoot back in season 1! :lol:

One point: Tony Dalton who plays Lalo was credited in this episode, but I don't think we explicitly see him anywhere do we? Is crediting people who don't appear a normal thing or is it a hint that he was actually lurking somewhere in the background at some point?

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by Dangerblade » Fri May 06, 2022 10:35 am

Jenuall wrote:One point: Tony Dalton who plays Lalo was credited in this episode, but I don't think we explicitly see him anywhere do we? Is crediting people who don't appear a normal thing or is it a hint that he was actually lurking somewhere in the background at some point?

Don't read anything into it. I'm pretty sure Michael Mando was credited too.

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by Barnsy! » Mon May 09, 2022 5:51 pm

This is my favourite show. I love being excited for a weekly new episode :wub:

Didn't realise at first but there were actually two new breaking bad cameos in the last episode; as well as Wendy, "Spooge" was the meth user who had his head cracked open by the cash machine! :shock:

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by Clarkman » Tue May 10, 2022 12:17 pm

Glad that the Cliff confrontation happened this week.

I do wonder whether the writers decided they wanted a Jimmy vs H.O.Ward boxing match set-piece and worked backwards from there :slol:

Lalo in Germany was wonderful. The mood lighting. The tension. Just perfect.

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by Barnsy! » Tue May 10, 2022 1:04 pm

Bit of a...I don't want to use 'filler episode' because it was great; but it was a bit of a 'chance to breathe' episode. Which was kind of appreciated, the first four episodes were white knuckle adrenaline rides, where the story was twisted tighter and tighter, so a character exploration episode where the big story arcs were taken off the boil and allowed to simmer was nice.

- So Howard has a private investigator watching Jimmy (and Kim?), and Mike is also watching them (and will inevitably know how about Howard PI) - I wonder how that will intertwine?
- It must be fairly obvious to civilians 'legit-business man' Gus Fring is wearing a bullet proof vest on under his quite thin, tightly fitted yellow shirt!
- I liked Mike looking out for his crews well being :wub:
- Only 1 more episode left and then its the mid-season finale! There's a lot of ground to cover

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Lalo in Germany was wonderful. The mood lighting. The tension. Just perfect.


I wished I'd called it, because I did suspect that Lalo's proof would be to do with Werner and he was going to make a trip to Germany. Within the first few seconds of the Vernier Calliper being prepared in lucite in the opening sequence, I knew where they was going with this! Maybe we'll now get a Kai guest appearance - then further down the line maybe a Kai and Mike interaction?

I wonder where they are going with the sequence; of Gus measuring the distance from the power supply cord to the gun he planted in the excavator. Is the Gus / Lalo confrontation going to happen in the lab?

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by Victor Mildew » Wed May 11, 2022 7:17 am

Barnsy! wrote:Is the Gus / Lalo confrontation going to happen in the lab?

It seems to be the case.

unhooked the lighting cable but left it connected, ready to kick apart with his foot. Count the steps in the dark to the digger, grab the gun and get him. Bury him in the lab wall, which is why there's a fly down there 8-)

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by Clarkman » Tue May 17, 2022 9:25 pm

Am I right in thinking that's the first time we've seen Howard's partner? That scene made me sad.

I'm surprised that we're getting to D-Day without the anticipated drama between the private investigator and Mike's men.

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by Victor Mildew » Tue May 17, 2022 10:21 pm

Clarkman wrote:Am I right in thinking that's the first time we've seen Howard's partner? That scene made me sad.

I'm surprised that we're getting to D-Day without the anticipated drama between the private investigator and Mike's men.


That I remember yeah. Notice the ban the bomb logo on the coffee he made her, and the post it note for d-day has a bomb explosion drawn on it.. It's a given they're going to lace his coffee with whatever the vet was testing to make him look stoned right?

Either he's on to them as much as they've allowed him to be, or he's more on to them than they realise and it's going to go horribly wrong.

Got a feeling this Lalo business is all a set up for making the fly episode of BB retroactively a hugely significant episode :lol:

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by Clarkman » Tue May 17, 2022 11:04 pm

That's great attention to detail, Victor.

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by Barnsy! » Wed May 18, 2022 9:06 am

Victor Mildew wrote: It's a given they're going to lace his coffee with whatever the vet was testing to make him look stoned right?

Either he's on to them as much as they've allowed him to be, or he's more on to them than they realise and it's going to go horribly wrong.


Yeah, I think the plan is they make him seem unhinged and high at the court in front of peers (similar to Chuck). They make Howard think the judge has taken a bribe from Jimmy (hence the fake photos with the actor dressed as the judge) so he goes off on a rant and somehow drug him with vet medicine so his pupils are dilated.

Mad long shot theory - I wonder if the drug kills or at least makes Howard seriously ill. The dentist said its a caffeine high similar to "two redbulls on an empty stomach" - was Howard drinking tea whilst his wife was drinking coffee? Perhaps he has a low caffeine tolerance [combined with the level of stress he's under] and a heart condition.

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by Barnsy! » Wed May 18, 2022 9:28 am

- Casper :( . I had the feeling he was a good gooseberry fool and genuinely loved and respected Werner (he was the fella that stared Mike down with the "he was worth 50 of you" line).

- As interesting as the opening with the parallel of young Kims motivations for stealing to her current con was, the real "villain" origin story this episode is of honest, hard working, happy, kind receptionist Francesca to the cynical, negative, opportunist she was in breaking bad. Walt became Heisenberg, Jimmy became Saul and this was the episode Francesca became.... "Honey Tits" :datass:

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by Moggy » Wed May 18, 2022 9:36 am

With the way Francesca negotiated her salary last week, she was already a cynical opportunist ;)

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by Victor Mildew » Wed May 18, 2022 11:03 am

Barnsy! wrote:
Victor Mildew wrote: It's a given they're going to lace his coffee with whatever the vet was testing to make him look stoned right?

Either he's on to them as much as they've allowed him to be, or he's more on to them than they realise and it's going to go horribly wrong.


Yeah, I think the plan is they make him seem unhinged and high at the court in front of peers (similar to Chuck). They make Howard think the judge has taken a bribe from Jimmy (hence the fake photos with the actor dressed as the judge) so he goes off on a rant and somehow drug him with vet medicine so his pupils are dilated.

Mad long shot theory - I wonder if the drug kills or at least makes Howard seriously ill. The dentist said its a caffeine high similar to "two redbulls on an empty stomach" - was Howard drinking tea whilst his wife was drinking coffee? Perhaps he has a low caffeine tolerance [combined with the level of stress he's under] and a heart condition.


I can see the howard thing backfiring to the point of he loses everything and commits suicide. Or he dies and Kim has to go vacuum bye bye, or something happens which lands Kim in jail.

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by Memento Mori » Wed May 18, 2022 12:29 pm

I agree.

Kim- Disbarred. Her legal career is completely dead whether or not she is literally dead.
Howard- Dead as a result of Kim and Jim's actions. No way is Howard going to be happy at the end of the show.


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