Better Call Saul - prequel to Breaking Bad. Series Finale out now on Netflix.

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by Victor Mildew » Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:48 pm

Jenuall wrote:I'm only up to season 4 on my rewatch, thought I had more time! :dread:


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by Barnsy! » Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:03 pm

I know the mid season break is just so the dates align for award consideration or whatever; but I wonder if narratively episode 7 is supposed to be the end of season 6 part 1 with episode 7 acting like a 'mini season finale' and will have certain arcs wrapped up or end on a cliff hanger (similar to how they broke up season 5 of Breaking Bad - I know that was a gap of like a year and this is just 6 weeks), maybe there will be a time jump in episode 8 or something. Or if this is literally just a mid-season break.

Either way; I'm actually kind of glad they're dragging it out this way, I was legit bummed out after BB ended and I'm not ready to say goodbye to BCS yet.

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by Victor Mildew » Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:07 pm

Can't beleive this is finally back, going to watch both episodes back to back tomorrow evening.

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by Barnsy! » Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:28 pm

Brillant first couple of episodes.

- Dumb question: Nachos motel situation was confusing to me. So presumably a member of Gus's team set this location up for him and calls him at the motel and gives him instruction to stay put and he will be picked up in a couple of days. But the fella surveying him was also working on behalf of Gus (as confirmed by the call from Tyrus when Nacho has him at gun point). Gus Team set Nacho up by swapping the safe in his home and placing the telephone number of the motel to inform the cartel of Nachos location - why? Gus knows at this point knows Lalo is alive and knows that if the cartel catch him he will be tortured into revealing that he was working with Gus??

- I wonder if Nacho actually got away? The twins wanted him alive (even killing their own henchman) - did the tires get shot out? Maybe he was captured by the twins at the point he called Mike and wanted to speak with Gus during the standoff?

- That standoff scene was amazing, had vibes of when Jessie defied up Gus re. 'keep the peace' which was previously the bravest thing you ever saw in that same room. Mike was very morally compromised with Werner and may get to redeem himself with Nacho - but his code for what is, would never allow Nachos father who is squarely not in the game to be used like that.

- This show is so brilliantly written it makes you feel exactly as conflicted about the Kettlemens as you are supposed to. They are on no level good people, but you do feel quite sorry for them that Saul came back into their lives only to use them. They were scamming old people (but that isn't really the reason coerced them like that) - we the audience are supposed to see this scene through Jimmys eyes and her stick approach was difficult to watch. Similarly, whilst we get why Jimmy and Kim hate him, its definitely ambiguous if Howard deserves any of this treatment.

- Kim does not die! That was always obvious - Saul in BB was bitter and unpleasant had divorced vibes but not the vibes of someone who the love of their life is dead because of him. But Kims ending is the biggest mystery of this show and the character I'm most invested in. First couple of seasons; I used to think Saul would be responsible for Kims [unhappy?] ending or moral decline. But Kim who is the shows most good person (hence all the pro bono work) and most intelligent but has got more reckless as well conniving and has made some egocentric decisions - I really want her to have a happy ending.

- Lalo is morally all over the place. He's cold and calculating, but at the end of last season wasn't he further enraged that the cook was killed in the crossfire during the siege. Then he kills the farm couple who he also seems to like just to have a body to burn / fake his death. Also, the people smuggler scene was reminiscent of when the twins murdered all those immigrants in BB and I was convinced that was going to go a similar way - so that was a relief when they was sparred and got their money back.

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by Clarkman » Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:32 pm

Just incredible cinematography in the opening two episodes. I know we should expect it by this point, but it's still so punchy and stunning.

Like Barnsy above, I did find some parts of the storytelling confusing and overly opaque.

e.g. the purpose of the letter in the safe?; who was the implied driver was trailing Jimmy and Kim?; why Lalo needed to speak with Hector?; what was Nacho's exit plan supposed to be?

Perhaps it is due to forgetting some stuff...

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by Victor Mildew » Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:47 pm

Some heavy foreshadowing in these shots. Kim and Saul in the diner when it cuts to outside Looks like he's talking to her behind bars.

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by Barnsy! » Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:36 pm

Clarkman wrote:Just incredible cinematography in the opening two episodes. I know we should expect it by this point, but it's still so punchy and stunning.



Yeah, like the very beginning of the opening scene. This is the first season not to open with a black&white flashforward into the Gene timeline; at the very beginning black and white ties fall on the white surface, so you are expecting a black&white flashforward then a load of garishly coloured ties fall and reveals its not that and takes place at the end of Breaking Bad as Sauls home is being cleared. The colour pallet and cinematography set to the music of when Sauls house is being cleared is so cool. Loads of little BCS and BB easter eggs in that scene too

Also one of the red ants from ice cream in the previous season made a little cameo :D

Clarkman wrote:who was the implied driver was trailing Jimmy and Kim?


Dunno, I would imagine something to do with Howard? There's no way that Howard (as well as the fella from Hamlin who Howard was playing golf with) didn't get to hear that Saul was at the golf club after that outburst in front of Kevin and everyone else at the golf club. He used the Kettlemans to spread the word that Howard has a coke habit and then blackmailed them to not let on they heard it from Saul. Even if the other lawyer firms don't know Saul was behind the coke rumour - Howard would have heard that Saul was at the golf club and deduced that this was all set up by Saul.

Clarkman wrote:the purpose of the letter in the safe?;


Mike planted the bank statement there under Gus's orders so the cartel would discover Nachos location by dialing the motel phone number. Why, I don't know - I would have thought the twins speaking to Nacho is the last thing Gus would want?

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by Photek » Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:25 pm

Clarkman wrote:Just incredible cinematography in the opening two episodes. I know we should expect it by this point, but it's still so punchy and stunning.

Like Barnsy above, I did find some parts of the storytelling confusing and overly opaque.

e.g. the purpose of the letter in the safe?; who was the implied driver was trailing Jimmy and Kim?; why Lalo needed to speak with Hector?; what was Nacho's exit plan supposed to be?

Perhaps it is due to forgetting some stuff...


The Letter in the Safe made no sense to me other than to point the cartel to where Nacho was but Mike liked Nacho....?

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by Victor Mildew » Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:30 pm

I'm assuming this is Mike going against Gus' orders/wishes, so appearing to be helping them track him down and kill him, but then on the side helping him out.

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by Clarkman » Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:59 pm

Well, I suppose that was inevitable in the final season. Pretty great acting from all involved.

Regarding the current Jimmy/Kim story line, I don't currently feel super invested. It is all all little too contrived - complexity for complexity's sake. If this is the season long arc, I'm going to grow weary of it. Perhaps because I've never felt a really strong dislike to Howard.

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by Moggy » Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:53 pm

Nacho :cry: :cry: :cry:

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by Dangerblade » Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:04 pm

God damn it. That final monologue. :(

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by Photek » Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:04 pm

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by Moggy » Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:07 pm

I'm going to be devastated when this series finishes. Easily the best thing on TV at the moment.

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by Photek » Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:08 pm

It really is astonishing.

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by Dangerblade » Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:21 pm

Moggy wrote:I'm going to be devastated when this series finishes. Easily the best thing on TV at the moment.

I don't want to think about it. 14 years of incredible TV. :(

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by Moggy » Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:24 pm

Dangerblade wrote:
Moggy wrote:I'm going to be devastated when this series finishes. Easily the best thing on TV at the moment.

I don't want to think about it. 14 years of incredible TV. :(


Fingers crossed for a Huell spin off show.

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by Dangerblade » Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:33 pm

ReasonablyReasonable.

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PostRe: Better Call Saul - prequel to Breaking Bad. 1st part of final season Tuesdays on Netflix.
by Lex-Man » Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:26 pm

Do you think we're going to see more of present Saul?

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PostRe: Better Call Saul - prequel to Breaking Bad. 1st part of final season Tuesdays on Netflix.
by Dangerblade » Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:30 pm

I'm guessing the entire final episode will be post-BB. Some people reckon the entire second half of the season will be post-BB but I don't think there will be THAT much.


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