Bloodborne - The Nightly Hunt begins... (The Old Hunters DLC out Tuesday!)

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PostRe: Bloodborne - The Nightly Hunt begins... (Git Gud guide in the OP)
by VeryNiceGuy » Tue Jun 02, 2015 4:30 pm

Death's Head wrote:Correct, not fussed about NG+

However, I don't know what I'm supposed to do next! After defeating the Blood Starved Beast, there was nowhere obvious to go!


Two things happen after beating the Beast. The door to the right of the Cathedral Ward lamp opens, allowing you to get to The Hunter's Workshop and a few items (a tricky journey navigating beams and judging the right drop-heights*); and secondly - Snatchers appear. They're one of the hardest normal enemies in the game, and are the key to accessing an otherwise hidden area. There's one right outside Cathedral Ward: take the main exit straight ahead of the lamp and turn right around the wagon and into the corner where there are usually crows. There be a Snatcher there now instead, and allow yourself to be killed by him to get into Hypogean Gaol. Neither of these paths (workshop, hypogean gaol) are necessary to complete the main story.

If you've killed Vicar Amelia already, then the password door in the ward (have you found that?) will be accessible, and the main route to progress through the story in Forbidden woods will be the one to follow.

*There's a vid on youtube showing a very easy way to drop down to the door leading to the Workshop. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcoVbNrcWTw

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PostRe: Bloodborne - The Nightly Hunt begins... (Git Gud guide in the OP)
by Death's Head » Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:47 pm

Haven't met the vicar or found a door that needs a password. Clearly I suck at games.

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PostRe: Bloodborne - The Nightly Hunt begins... (Git Gud guide in the OP)
by VeryNiceGuy » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:07 pm

First off, get the 'Hunter Chief Emblem' key from the messenger's bath in your Hunter's Dream. It costs 10,000 echoes. Go back to Cathedral Ward and go out the door to the left of the lamp, kill the guys in the courtyard, then go up the stairs (you'll know not to go the other way as that's how you got to Old Yarnham and eventually the Beast) to where there's a large further staircase and a giant axe-wielding monster (that is slow and avoidable). Take a right up those stairs until you reach the closed gate.

Open it to get to a large circular courtyard - the Hunter Emblem key allows that - and you can pretty much run past the two other axe-wielding monsters to go through an archway that is towards the left after opening the gate. Kill the brainsucker which is on your right as you exit the archway, and drop down through the gap in the gate to the next level, where there are quite a few enemies. You might want to take care of some of them with some weapon clipping before dropping through the gap as they can gang up on you. When they're dead you'll see another archway with a ladder inside to your right. Go up the ladder and drop down to the roof, then drop down to the ground (watch out for the dog). You'll see a large staircase leading up to the Grand Cathedral.

First, use the mechanism to open the large gate to your right (it's an alternative route to the large circular courtyard and where the first archway was), then go past the stairs into the next yard and use the mechanism to open that gate, which will provide you with a shortcut from the Cathedral Ward lamp to the Grand Cathedral staircase that you've just spent a while getting to. How you tackle the enemies on that staircase is up to you. But at the very top of them is the entrance (open the doors, no key needed) to the fight with Vicar Amelia.

The Saw Cleaver in its untransformed state is the best weapon for this fight, and make absolutely sure you have fire paper. Don't lock onto her. Twat away at her bandaged knees with your fiery weapon and she'll eventually be staggered so you can visceral hit, or just stunned by the assault. Roll out of the way when she goes to make a move. Repeat. After you've beaten her, examine the skull on the altar (the vision you get gives you the password).

The password door - remember that archway you went through from the large circular courtyard, with the brainsucker to the right? Well, instead of dropping down through the gap in the fence, turn to your left and there'll be a passageway. Follow that all the way down to the door at the end. Done.

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PostRe: Bloodborne - The Nightly Hunt begins... (Git Gud guide in the OP)
by Cumberdanes » Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:38 pm

Hunter Chief Emblem is a waste of Blood Echoes. You are better off taking the route through the open door next to the Cathedral Ward lamp and falling down the hole.

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PostRe: Bloodborne - The Nightly Hunt begins... (Git Gud guide in the OP)
by VeryNiceGuy » Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:41 pm

IAmTheSaladMan wrote:Hunter Chief Emblem is a waste of Blood Echoes. You are better off taking the route through the open door next to the Cathedral Ward lamp and falling down the hole.


Right, forgot about that. Being at NG+10 and getting millions of echoes in a relatively short time, I've forgotten what it's like to think 10,000 echoes is anything to be bothered about. Silly of me.

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PostRe: Bloodborne - The Nightly Hunt begins... (Git Gud guide in the OP)
by EnragedYogi » Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:46 pm

if anyones bothered, last page I posted about my Blood Vial and Silver bullets problem. An uninstall and reinstall fixed it, I can store them both again without them disappearing, which is nice. I think I'm keeping roughly at a pace with Deaths Head, did Blood Starved beast second try after my reinstall after getting battered by him previously, no fire paper used :toot:

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PostRe: Bloodborne - The Nightly Hunt begins... (Git Gud guide in the OP)
by NBK » Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:20 pm

Still chipping away at this. I made it through Cainhurst but the boss was proving to be a headache so will go back to it later.

I went back to the Unseen Village and it's all rather different now. I also managed to fall foul of a sneaky jumping attack (video below). Shat it.

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PostRe: Bloodborne - The Nightly Hunt begins... (Git Gud guide in the OP)
by Luboluke » Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:34 pm

Don't think I've came across Cainhurst yet even though I've just had my ass handed to me by Gehrman, does that come after?

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PostRe: Bloodborne - The Nightly Hunt begins... (Git Gud guide in the OP)
by VeryNiceGuy » Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:53 pm

Luboluke wrote:Don't think I've came across Cainhurst yet even though I've just had my ass handed to me by Gehrman, does that come after?


Gehrman is at the very end of the game, so leave him alone at the moment if you want to do Cainhurst now instead of NG+. You need to do two things to get to Cainhurst: firstly, go back to Forbidden Woods to where there were some dogs in cages to the side of a house just outside the first village you encounter (the one with the covered pit with the crows in), then go left along a path behind those cages, through a cave, up a couple of very tall ladders, then through the already-open gate to eventually get up on a roof and then into Iosefka's Clinic through a back window, going right to open a door and pick up the Cainhurst Summons; secondly, get to Hemwick Charnel Lane and beat the Witch(es) of Hemwick, allowing you to travel to Cainhurst by walking up close to the obelisk not far from the Witches Abode. You reach Charnel Lane by going along the left path, when you're facing the Grand Cathedral door (where you fought Amelia). A horse-driven carriage will take you to Cainhurst from the obelisk.

I totally missed it on my first playthrough.

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PostRe: Bloodborne - The Nightly Hunt begins... (Git Gud guide in the OP)
by Luboluke » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:16 pm

Ahhhh I see, thanks man. I actually went to that cave because it was the only area I hadn't properly explored yet, was too busy running away from the Giants to get the items to notice the ladder :fp:

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PostRe: Bloodborne - The Nightly Hunt begins... (Git Gud guide in the OP)
by Death's Head » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:35 pm

Need some help as I can't seem to find anywhere to go. Defeated Vicar Amelia and according to an online map, should be able to enter forbidden woods. I don't know if I'm going the right way, but I go to a building, try to open a door and a hand picks me up and crushed me. The only other way that seems available is against the dark beast near the Hypogean Gaol but that is too tough or I don't have the weapons I need.

I've also defeated the witch at witch's abode, but can't find anywhere further to go, can't see a route to forsaken castle.

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PostRe: Bloodborne - The Nightly Hunt begins... (Git Gud guide in the OP)
by Victor Mildew » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:42 pm

its been a while since I was there, but I think that you get an invite to cainhurst castle from a body in the room just beyond the witch fight. If you've got that, you go to the area to the right of the hill that the witches are on and a cutscenes will trigger. That's an optional area though. Hypogean is doable at your level, just hard. As for the hand that crushes you, try talking to the guy at the window by the very first lamp in the game, up by the ladder and gate shortcut. He eventually gave me an item which means that hand doesn't kill you. there are two ways to get to the forest iirc. One way is to go up to the Amelia cathedral and go left as you look at it, with going right leading to that hand. Might be the way to the witches though, I forget.

Hexx wrote:Ad7 is older and balder than I thought.
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PostRe: Bloodborne - The Nightly Hunt begins... (Git Gud guide in the OP)
by VeryNiceGuy » Sat Jun 13, 2015 4:18 pm

Death's Head wrote:Need some help as I can't seem to find anywhere to go. Defeated Vicar Amelia and according to an online map, should be able to enter forbidden woods. I don't know if I'm going the right way, but I go to a building, try to open a door and a hand picks me up and crushed me. The only other way that seems available is against the dark beast near the Hypogean Gaol but that is too tough or I don't have the weapons I need.

I've also defeated the witch at witch's abode, but can't find anywhere further to go, can't see a route to forsaken castle.


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First, make sure you examined the big skull on the altar in Grand Cathedral to get the password cutscene. From the Grand Cathedral lamp where you defeated Vicar Amelia, go straight all the way down the stairs, through the gate at the bottom into the large circular courtyard, and look for an archway (a giant bastard sits right outside it). Go through - there'll be a brainsucker there - and turn immediately to the left, following the passageway, down some stairs until you reach the password door that takes you to forbidden woods.

There's no 'route' to cainhurst castle per se. If you've got the cainhurst summons from iosefka's clinic, then all you need to do is walk up to the obelisk down the path from the witches abode. See here: http://grcade.co.uk/t:bloodborne-beast-souls---hidetaka-miyazaki---ps4?f=2&start=3060#p3759427

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PostRe: Bloodborne - The Nightly Hunt begins... (Git Gud guide in the OP)
by Victor Mildew » Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:59 pm

Thought I'd give this a pop again after a long break and being stuck on the blood starved beast chalice boss :dread:

Took me about 5 tries, but a nice fresh look at it and being on the offensive got the bastard in the end :datass:


Hexx wrote:Ad7 is older and balder than I thought.
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PostRe: Bloodborne - The Nightly Hunt begins... (Git Gud guide in the OP)
by Luboluke » Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:48 am

Finally beat this the other night in time for Arkham Knight. :mrgreen: Just an outstanding experience from start to finish. I still don't quite feel like I'm finished with yet, I'll platinum it at some point, the only main game boss I didn't beat was Ebrietas, I just wanted to defeat Gerhman (a great fight, not too hard but still really intense and satisfying) and move onto something else finally.

I don't know how you lot completed it so quickly, I've hardly played anything else and must have logged 80hrs or so at least!

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PostRe: Bloodborne - The Nightly Hunt begins... (Git Gud guide in the OP)
by gamerforever » Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:39 am

Its a game that took me a good while to get good at, but once i got the whole game mechanic and dodging it became wonderful to play.

Online co-op help was fantastic and the reason i completed it without getting completely frustrated like with smough and ornstein and giving up.

Restarted it - it is the best videogame this generation imo. Can't wait to see what dark souls 3 has to offer now as well as the bloodborne dlc, which i expect to be decent!

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PostRe: Bloodborne - The Nightly Hunt begins... (Git Gud guide in the OP)
by Victor Mildew » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:45 am

Holy gooseberry fool, the defiled chalice dungeon and boss :dread:

Hexx wrote:Ad7 is older and balder than I thought.
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PostRe: Bloodborne - The Nightly Hunt begins... (Git Gud guide in the OP)
by Death's Head » Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:16 am

Luboluke wrote:I don't know how you lot completed it so quickly, I've hardly played anything else and must have logged 80hrs or so at least!


Pretty much this. Still plugging away at this an hour each night and getting very frustrated with lack of progress. I think I'm up to about level 70 now and feel that my character should be much tougher and be able to breeze through a lot of encounters, but this simply doesn't happen - I regularly get caught out and die with no gains. So I'm basically in a pattern of do a few rounds of the lecture rooms to level up, go back to the part I last died at, die again, go back to the lecture rooms....

zzzzz

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PostRe: Bloodborne - The Nightly Hunt begins... (Git Gud guide in the OP)
by Cumberdanes » Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:20 am

Death's Head wrote:
Luboluke wrote:I don't know how you lot completed it so quickly, I've hardly played anything else and must have logged 80hrs or so at least!


Pretty much this. Still plugging away at this an hour each night and getting very frustrated with lack of progress. I think I'm up to about level 70 now and feel that my character should be much tougher and be able to breeze through a lot of encounters, but this simply doesn't happen - I regularly get caught out and die with no gains. So I'm basically in a pattern of do a few rounds of the lecture rooms to level up, go back to the part I last died at, die again, go back to the lecture rooms....

zzzzz


Are you upgrading your weapons and stats that they scale with? As in the Souls games overall level isn't really as important as upgrading your weapons.

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PostRe: Bloodborne - The Nightly Hunt begins... (Git Gud guide in the OP)
by Death's Head » Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:36 pm

IAmTheSaladMan wrote:
Are you upgrading your weapons and stats that they scale with? As in the Souls games overall level isn't really as important as upgrading your weapons.


I've upgraded the weapons as much as I can with the bits I have available. I'm currently using the electric club thing and someone or others holy sword. The club thing is up to +6 and I've added other gems to make it the best of my weapons. The holy sword is +5 and gets whatever the best gems are that aren't on the electric club.

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