Borderlands 3 - Mask of Mayhem

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PostRe: Borderlands - Mask of Mayhem
by Tafdolphin » Wed Apr 03, 2019 5:19 pm

Another Epic store exclusive.

Someone better so something quick or all the True Gamers out there are going to die of starvation.

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PostRe: Borderlands - Mask of Mayhem
by Psychic » Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:12 pm

What an odd post.

Ah well, was expected given Pitchfords previous comments on the store. Funny how he's attempted to distance himself from it in the past couple of days though. He's hinted it'll be a six months exclusive so I can wait.

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PostRe: Borderlands - Mask of Mayhem
by Tafdolphin » Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:23 pm

PsychicSykes wrote:What an odd post.


Not really, given that the other Borderlands games are getting review bombed on Steam because True Gamers are salty as all strawberry float apparently.

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PostRe: Borderlands - Mask of Mayhem
by Jam-Master Jay » Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:25 pm

As none of my online friends will install the Epic launcher I'll likely hold out the six months to get it on Steam. What a disappointment.

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PostRe: Borderlands - Mask of Mayhem
by Tafdolphin » Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:28 pm

That's strawberry floating ridiculous! Your friends, not you.

Reminds me of this...

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PostRe: Borderlands - Mask of Mayhem
by Psychic » Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:53 pm

I guess Boogie adds weight to the old adage that a stopped clock is right twice a day.

About Epic being gooseberry fool, obviously.

The terrifying part is hilarious.

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PostRe: Borderlands - Mask of Mayhem
by Seven » Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:53 pm

Not sure what your beef with people not wanting to use Epic launcher, some people have valid reason not to want to use it. Edit: to Taf

I don't mind bunch of launchers myself (heck I don't mind Origin, Uplay is mess though) but I'm going to get this on Xbox one so meh.

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PostRe: Borderlands - Mask of Mayhem
by Wedgie » Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:09 pm

IAmTheSaladMan wrote:
Wedgie wrote:We all can agree that Guardians of the Galaxy series was awful.

Tales from the Borderlands have the best title screen. And a damn good game to boot.


Can't be as bad as Jurassic Park, that's the worst Telltale game I've played. First episode isn't bad but it gets jankier and jankier as it goes on.


Haven’t played Jurassic Park but I have got all the episodes for the PS3 so will definitely play through them. But I have heard that it’s terrible.

The only TT games I didn’t play is the Sam and Max (have them on the PS3) ones and Minecraft Story Seasons.

And don’t forget Back to the Future. That was a good game, and more complex than TT’s linear/later games.

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PostRe: Borderlands - Mask of Mayhem
by Tafdolphin » Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:14 pm

Seven wrote:Not sure what your beef with people not wanting to use Epic launcher, some people have valid reason not to want to use it. Edit: to Taf

I don't mind bunch of launchers myself (heck I don't mind Origin, Uplay is mess though) but I'm going to get this on Xbox one so meh.


Because I think it's cutting off your nose to spite your face. I think it's giving in to hyperbole and fear of change. I think it's childish.

It actually annoys me even more than all those reasons should annoy me though. I think it's to do with my extreme aversion to anything related to 'Gamer' culture and its trend towards lowest-common-denominator reactions and flocking behaviours. I hate that the hobby I love is so full of people willing to review bomb games because of a business decision. It's only a few steps down that road until you get to harassing women because they've pointed out the sexism in games, or doxxing reviewers because of a score.

Something like that.

As for good reasons, I've had this convo. Any reasons people might have for not buying from Epic pale in comparison to similar reasons if the same standards are applied to Valve. They're both terrible companies with terrible business practices. If you don't care enough about that with one because it got there first, you can't stand on a high horse when it comes to the second.

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PostRe: Borderlands - Mask of Mayhem
by Green Gecko » Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:19 am

The truth is taf people just really want half life 3.

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PostRe: Borderlands - Mask of Mayhem
by Pedz » Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:25 am

Then people should stop buying from steam so Valve have to start making games again.

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PostRe: Borderlands - Mask of Mayhem
by Met » Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:46 am

I don't generally play on PC, and when I do it's either a direct download with its own launcher anyway like FFXIV or through Steam as that's just what's convenient, but doesn't Epic lack a bunch of basic features?

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PostRe: Borderlands - Mask of Mayhem
by Tafdolphin » Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:41 am

Met wrote:I don't generally play on PC, and when I do it's either a direct download with its own launcher anyway like FFXIV or through Steam as that's just what's convenient, but doesn't Epic lack a bunch of basic features?


Yup, the store is super bad right now.

Doesn't have any rape games or hate groups though so...you know. Swings and roundabouts.

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PostRe: Borderlands - Mask of Mayhem
by Victor Mildew » Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:18 am

GAMERS RISE UP

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PostRe: Borderlands - Mask of Mayhem
by Fade » Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:28 am

Loving the giant advertisements for BL3 in the handsome collection right now. No trailer or anything just PRE ORDER NOW FOR STUPID strawberry floating SKINS

Also, the BL1 remaster seems a bit expensive considering I bought the handsome collection for £9 last week on PSN.

That and BL1 is really really bland compared to the later games.

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PostRe: Borderlands - Mask of Mayhem
by Parksey » Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:35 am

Plus The Handsome Collection has been £9 since weird fish creatures first crawled out of the ocean. I bought it for that amount way back then. Seems just a blatant wag of capitalising on some hype.

It's also a bit of a pisstake considering they omitted it from the Handsome Collection because it, apparently, didn't fit due to not featuring Jack, but they they dredge up at an inflated price point - why more expensive than remasters of two newer games - years later.

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PostRe: Borderlands - Mask of Mayhem
by Fade » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:56 am

They're probably just hoping people have forgotten how mediocre it was.

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PostRe: Borderlands - Mask of Mayhem
by Psychic » Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:41 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:Because I think it's cutting off your nose to spite your face. I think it's giving in to hyperbole and fear of change. I think it's childish.

It actually annoys me even more than all those reasons should annoy me though. I think it's to do with my extreme aversion to anything related to 'Gamer' culture and its trend towards lowest-common-denominator reactions and flocking behaviours. I hate that the hobby I love is so full of people willing to review bomb games because of a business decision. It's only a few steps down that road until you get to harassing women because they've pointed out the sexism in games, or doxxing reviewers because of a score.

Something like that.

As for good reasons, I've had this convo. Any reasons people might have for not buying from Epic pale in comparison to similar reasons if the same standards are applied to Valve. They're both terrible companies with terrible business practices. If you don't care enough about that with one because it got there first, you can't stand on a high horse when it comes to the second.

Do you really think that people prefer Valve because it was the first launcher of the two?

Since you disagree with reviewbombing as a concept (Even though it has previously helped during instances where publishers/developers were in the wrong), what in your opinion is the appropriate protest to not wanting to support the games exclusivity period on Epic Store?

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PostRe: Borderlands - Mask of Mayhem
by Tafdolphin » Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:00 pm

PsychicSykes wrote:
Tafdolphin wrote:Because I think it's cutting off your nose to spite your face. I think it's giving in to hyperbole and fear of change. I think it's childish.

It actually annoys me even more than all those reasons should annoy me though. I think it's to do with my extreme aversion to anything related to 'Gamer' culture and its trend towards lowest-common-denominator reactions and flocking behaviours. I hate that the hobby I love is so full of people willing to review bomb games because of a business decision. It's only a few steps down that road until you get to harassing women because they've pointed out the sexism in games, or doxxing reviewers because of a score.

Something like that.

As for good reasons, I've had this convo. Any reasons people might have for not buying from Epic pale in comparison to similar reasons if the same standards are applied to Valve. They're both terrible companies with terrible business practices. If you don't care enough about that with one because it got there first, you can't stand on a high horse when it comes to the second.

Do you really think that people prefer Valve because it was the first launcher of the two?

Since you disagree with reviewbombing as a concept (Even though it has previously helped during instances where publishers/developers were in the wrong), what in your opinion is the appropriate protest to not wanting to support the games exclusivity period on Epic Store?


Firstly, I don't think any strawberry floating protest is warranted. At all. This is not some company taking your freedom, or curtailing your consumer rights...this is free market capitalism. This is one company steamrolling in with its buckets of cash and gaming the system. This is late stage capitalism as designed. If this development upsets you, you haven't been paying attention for the past 10 years. There are far worse examples of this to get angry at, and for much better reasons and this is why this whole thing makes me so apoplectic.

Secondly, review bombing isn't a form of protest it's a form of vandalism, the equivalent of scrawling on Marx's grave because you dislike the current political discourse. Gearbox made a business decision to launch exclusive to Epic. Perhaps the guaranteed funds from the exclusivity deal allowed them to take a punt at BL3 in the first place? Perhaps it gave them the freedom to experiment and make it a better game? All this disappears in the crucible of Gamer Culture where to deny habit is to trespass on the sacred. To deface previous games' Steam pages is an unthinking refusal to engage in nuance or discussion.

This is not a situation that requires protest. It's a situation that requires that people actually strawberry floating engage with the concepts of the systems behind the business of games and the market in general. It's a situation that requires understanding and comprehension of the greater causes behind the disruption Epic are making. Those who want to protest can do so by educating themselves rather than reacting with violent acts. Like I say, this sort of hair-trigger outpouring of rage is what led to GamerGate and the legacy that still continues to plague the culture of gaming today.

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PostRe: Borderlands - Mask of Mayhem
by Green Gecko » Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:19 pm

Yeah taf but normal people are pretty thick and so vote with social proof like upvotes and reviews and gooseberry fool, they're not going to start a blog about it because people don't have inclination to do that. They'll do the easiest thing to express dissent which is a comment in whatever place they think will cause the most harm. Steam are doing the right thing by mitigating it algorithmically. This is something special to the Internet, it's probably what would happen if you could "rate your MP" on the internet, it would be 90% bad comments and almost no-one actually writing to MPs or other political advocacy. Social media makes it super easy to express casual dissent towards anything making it appear like the intellectually or politically apathetic care too much about little things but really they're just doing that en mass because it's easy to do so and it affects nothing of importance (besides potentially some employee wellbeing).

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