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Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - Nothing beside remains
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:31 pm
by Photek
Skippy wrote:Photek wrote:Skippy wrote:Photek wrote:Gario wrote:Only a monster would deny Jessie a happy ending after everything he has been through. He's got a good heart.
So Does Walter.
If you think about it, Jessie is to blame for Hank, Gomey and his ex gf's death.
Jane sure, that's fine but Hank and Gomie? It's Walt's actions that pushed Jessie over the edge. Every bad thing that's happened to a key character in this show (except the cancer and Jane's death, which Walt could have prevented) has ultimately been Walt's fault. That's the whole point.
Saying
"thats the whole point" means nothing, how do you know?
Because I've watched the show
It's all about Walt's decent and the damage he does to the people around him along the way
Its your opinion though, ah its all good least we both love the show.
Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - Nothing beside remains
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:15 pm
by Gario
Does anyone actually dislike Breaking Bad?
Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - Nothing beside remains
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:32 pm
by Skippy
Photek wrote:Skippy wrote:Photek wrote:Skippy wrote:Photek wrote:Gario wrote:Only a monster would deny Jessie a happy ending after everything he has been through. He's got a good heart.
So Does Walter.
If you think about it, Jessie is to blame for Hank, Gomey and his ex gf's death.
Jane sure, that's fine but Hank and Gomie? It's Walt's actions that pushed Jessie over the edge. Every bad thing that's happened to a key character in this show (except the cancer and Jane's death, which Walt could have prevented) has ultimately been Walt's fault. That's the whole point.
Saying
"thats the whole point" means nothing, how do you know?
Because I've watched the show
It's all about Walt's decent and the damage he does to the people around him along the way
Its your opinion though, ah its all good least we both love the show.
Yeah, it says a lot about the show that people can debate about the characters like this.
Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - Nothing beside remains
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:40 pm
by souljahsstory
Anyone seen this? So amazing... Spoilered for big and spoilered because it contains a lot of characters from the whole series..
Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - Nothing beside remains
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:32 pm
by chalkitdown
I would worry about the mental health of anyone that believes Walt is a "good" person.
Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - Nothing beside remains
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:18 pm
by Ironhide
Walt
was a good guy early on but dealing with the kinds of people associated with meth has made him lose most of that, he's not completely lost it though as he still loves his kids and obviously regrets a few of his actions.
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Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - Nothing beside remains
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:22 pm
by Skippy
As I've said before it was when he watched Jane die that Walt truly went from good to bad
Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - Nothing beside remains
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:28 pm
by Shadow
chalkitdown wrote:I would worry about the mental health of anyone that believes Walt is a "good" person.
I think for a long while he was just being pulled along, his actions were snowballing and forcing him to do ever more evil things. He never intended for it to go this way.
I don't see that Jessie deserves a happy ending.
Teaming up with Hank and ratting Walt (and everyone else) means I can't forgive him. To good citizens like us it might seem like a reasonable thing to do (going to the police), but a career criminal should never, ever snitch.
Jesse was out of the game, he had $5m from Walt which he blew, he had the opportunity of a new life from Walt, which he blew. Then he gets his knickers in a twist, makes a bizarre leap of judgement (working out that Walt poisoned Brock) and then goes on a rampage which ended with him teaming up with Hank.
Jesse deserves to die.
Killing Andrea was seriously strawberry floating harsh though..
Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - Nothing beside remains
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:54 pm
by satriales
Shadow wrote:I don't see that Jessie deserves a happy ending. Teaming up with Hank and ratting Walt (and everyone else) means I can't forgive him. To good citizens like us it might seem like a reasonable thing to do (going to the police), but a career criminal should never, ever snitch.
It was either work with Hank, or get shot by Hank. Can't blame him for snitching really.
Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - Nothing beside remains
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:30 pm
by Dark Ritual
I don't agree with those saying Jessie somehow deserves the state he's in. I mean he's not perfect, but being imprisoned as a slave and having lost the two most important people in his life in the space of a couple years is more than he deserves. I can kind of get the people saying he should've known what would happen if he tried to escape, but given his situation it's incredibly unlikely he's thinking straight.
Skippy has it right on the button when he says that pretty much everything is Walt's fault, especially as he's had the power to end it all at several junctures and not taking it because of greed or pride. The character is great, but the actual person is totally and utterly evil.
Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - Nothing beside remains
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:45 pm
by Rubix
Felt this episode was just more of a set up for next week. One moment that made me sit up and that was Killing Andrea
Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - Nothing beside remains
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:49 pm
by SandyCoin
Amazing episode, with a perfect finale set up ending. The music and shot of the glass gave me goosebumps
Question, you know the gun we saw Walt have in the flash forwards, the big ass machine gun, didn't one of the nazi's(bald one I think) have that exact gun? Probably not relevant but seems a bit of a coincidence both have a military machine gun. I'm probably remembering it wrong though.
Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - Nothing beside remains
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:56 pm
by Dark Ritual
Probably similar- Walt has seen these guy's armoury so he knows his tiny gun we've seen him with before won't cut it. He buys the gun from somebody in S5E1 though.
Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - Nothing beside remains
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:00 pm
by Mr Yoshi
Incredible episode. So ridiculously pumped for next week. This kind of thing doesn't come along very often, and I almost don't want it to end. I don't think I even know how I would want it to end.
Flames of violence and some sort of justice hopefully.
Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - Nothing beside remains
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:00 pm
by Johnny Ryall
Shadow wrote:chalkitdown wrote:I would worry about the mental health of anyone that believes Walt is a "good" person.
I think for a long while he was just being pulled along, his actions were snowballing and forcing him to do ever more evil things. He never intended for it to go this way.
I don't see that Jessie deserves a happy ending.
Teaming up with Hank and ratting Walt (and everyone else) means I can't forgive him. To good citizens like us it might seem like a reasonable thing to do (going to the police), but a career criminal should never, ever snitch.
Jesse was out of the game, he had $5m from Walt which he blew, he had the opportunity of a new life from Walt, which he blew. Then he gets his knickers in a twist, makes a bizarre leap of judgement (working out that Walt poisoned Brock) and then goes on a rampage which ended with him teaming up with Hank.
Jesse deserves to die.
Killing Andrea was seriously strawberry floating harsh though..
Walt apologists.
Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - Nothing beside remains
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:09 pm
by Fatal Exception
Hey, was that Kevin Spacey?
No, it wasn't.
Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - Nothing beside remains
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:14 pm
by Charles Bronson
Skarjo wrote:Dat principal tho.
What? She looked like she had more plastic than meat on her bones.
Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - Nothing beside remains
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:37 pm
by Fatal Exception
My word Tod is a cold strawberry floating banana split. Seriously, that kid is a strawberry floating monster.
Walt is a selfish banana split, but he has something which resembles compassion for his family. Family is everything to him.
Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - Nothing beside remains
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:49 pm
by Foxhound
Another great episode. The music at the end
Jesse to kill Walt and then get arrested. No happy endings.
Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - Nothing beside remains
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:03 pm
by Victor Mildew
Gario wrote:Does anyone actually dislike Breaking Bad?
The writers of Dexter
Dat music
Can't believe it's all going to be over this time next week
