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Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - [Felina.]

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:31 pm
by Memento Mori
What is Netflix doing using clips from the episode two weeks ago in its Breaking Bad trailers? :lol: Does Earl Grey have an advertising job?

Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - [Felina.]

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:32 pm
by Fatal Exception
Memento Mori wrote:Watching the Dexter finale after that ep . :lol: Wasn't quite as excellent or harrowing as last week but was still incredible television.

Loved the final scene and Grey Matter interview. This has always been about Walt's ego and what he's owed from life despite what he claims.


Well, he was ready to give himself in and forget everything before he saw that. His ego gave him something to live for at that point.

Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - [Felina.]

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:07 am
by CitizenErased
Oh boy, perfect set up for the finale. Whatever else happens to any character in the finale I just want to see Todd suffer a horrible death. It's not that he's straight up evil, it's that more the fact that he is one slimey son of a bitch. Didn't think Andrea would die, then again nobody is safe now :cry:

My theory on how it'll end; Walt is clearly gunning for the aryans and Lydia, but his reaction to Gretchen and Elliott on the tv tells me that before he bows out he'll want to burn down their empire 'Grey Matter'. No idea if that'll be done by way of the ricin (have a feeling that's for Lydia) or if he has other plans, but him not having his own empire any more surely means he'll want to destroy the one he always claimed was robbed from him.

Either way, I can't see this show ending in any way other than amazing. What a thrill ride. Bitch.

Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - [Felina.]

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:28 am
by aayl1
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Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - Nothing beside remains

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:29 am
by smurphy
Shadow wrote:I don't see that Jessie deserves a happy ending. Teaming up with Hank and ratting Walt (and everyone else) means I can't forgive him. To good citizens like us it might seem like a reasonable thing to do (going to the police), but a career criminal should never, ever snitch.


What the strawberry float is this gooseberry fool? :lol:

Brilliant episode. Next week is going to be crazy.

Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - [Felina.]

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:39 am
by Cumberdanes
Didn't see that Grey Matter thing coming at all. I love that even with one episode to go this show can still keep it's audience guessing.

Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - [Felina.]

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:13 am
by Suffocate Peon
I preferred this episode to last week's. I've felt the show has been relying too much on contrivances to drive the plot and characters to a destination it's designed, so for me I didn't find much drama and tragedy and tension with some of the stuff that's been happening lately, I've found it funny and melodramatic and disappointing. It's similar to the Shield in that the writers made it so Vic Mackey narrowly avoids getting caught, again and again, to the point where it feels like the show is rooting for him and wants you to do so too, and like that show it's the secondary character who gets strawberry floated up along the way who you really root for. With The Shield people in real life gave Forest Whitaker a hard time, like 'leave my mate alone' kind of thing, and he was astonished that they'd feel that way towards such a despicable character and not his character, just because he's trying to stop him. It's similar to how people irrationally despise Skylar, Walt does cool things and she's trying to prevent him and the show from flourishing.

Contrivances like, I don't believe that Walt would want Jesse killed, but it's so clear the show will engineer ways to make that happen, and the clearest example is when they cheated by using the misunderstanding of Jesse thinking Walt hired a hitman to stand about 10 feet away from the bench he was meant to meet Walt at. I don't even believe that Jesse would think Walt would kill him. They've used this paranoia trick before, with Walt and Gus, to drive the show forward to the point where Walt will try to kill him. But it was more deserved there because Gus regularly threatens Walt and his family. When Mike says things like 'we had a good thing, but you couldn't leave it', Walt never seems to say 'but...he threatened my family'. Gus kills a man in cold blood to make his point. I'd be as scared as Walt was too.

I don't believe Walt blames Hank's death on Jesse. I don't believe the nazi's would leave Walt alive and hand him so much money. You're going to let the man go who's a witness to the murder of his DEA brother in law, who hired you to assassin someone, who has lots of cash and is broken and angry and vengeful and likely to want to hire someone to kill you all and get his money back? Todd adores Lydia, and Lydia went to the car wash, of course. That a lot of the contrivances seem to just exist to pile on more misery for Jesse is more annoying than heartbreaking for me, I've preferred it when Jesse breaks down when reacting to how badly Walt has treated him, that scene from season 3 or 4 when he's recovering in bed and talks about how everything has gone to gooseberry fool for him since he met Walt was fascinating. Also the scene where he says 'can you just stop working me, just for once'. One of my favourite scenes from season 1 as well was when he returns to his house and talks to his younger brother, and he just sits on his bed, lost. I prefer that kind of Jesse character development that adds depth to his character, its more real and affecting because there is real content to it, it wasn't just hollow drama, more contrived awfulness happened to Jesse because Todd has a hard on for Lydia. Aaron Paul really is an amazing actor though, and I'll miss his performances the most of anything when the show ends.

I don't believe that Hank and Gomez would go it alone, they're aware that Walt has contacts who carried out mass killings in prison, and Hank is aware that Walt has tried to lure Jesse out. It's not unbelievable to think that he'd use those same people to kill Jesse. I don't believe they'd risk Jesse being there for the arrest.

I don't believe that Walt would not consider it for one second that Jesse wasn't working with Hank. So Jesse pours petrol all over his house and just leaves? Or changes his mind? He knows Hank knows about Heisenberg and he knows Jesse, and also knows he spoke to him a few days ago. He's the first person Hank would go to. And he knows Jesse is angry enough that he wants him to pay. If Walt is so smart how does he not even consider that Hank got their first? Jesse was about as angry as he's ever been, he's reacts in the moment, pouring petrol and setting Walt's house alight makes sense for him. He's not likely to back away, and be strategic, he'd calm down eventually.

Anyway, this was episodes ago. I've missed the Gretchen character and back story of her and Walt and Grey Matter, I've missed things like that that add interest and content to the story, rather than always focussing on drama between a small selection of characters, who seem to go round in circles over and over again until one kills the other.

Also, I don't know why Walt won't just say; 'yeah, I didn't kill Hank' to Flynn, like he ought to have said to Skylar. 'Hank got caught up with some people I work for, I begged for them to not do it, you have to believe me'.

Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - Nothing beside remains

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:56 am
by Wedgie
Floex wrote:Loved it, loooooved it. It is just the perfect setup (yeah, like it wasn't already), wasn't expecting to see Grey Matter again. Was a nice little thing to tie it all up and push him over the edge :lol:

Plus, how good was 'the fixer'? He looked like Leonard Nimoy!

Can you imagine what that moment is going to be like when Walt sees Jesse again *shivers*

Obilatory Breaking bad comic

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So good :lol:


Leonard Nimroy? Really?

You might know him as the tough drill instructor from Full Metal Jacket. And he was er... A ghost drill instructor in The frighters.

Nimroy? My good god man. If he read that, he'll skull strawberry float you. (Film reference.)

Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - [Felina.]

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:31 am
by Skarjo
What was the lawyer who looked like a young Kevin Spacey from?

Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - [Felina.]

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:33 am
by Nibble
Skarjo wrote:What was the lawyer who looked like a young Kevin Spacey from?


Didn't he play the movie executive from those Orange ads you got at the cinema a few years back?

Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - Nothing beside remains

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:35 am
by Nibble
Wedgie wrote:
Floex wrote:Loved it, loooooved it. It is just the perfect setup (yeah, like it wasn't already), wasn't expecting to see Grey Matter again. Was a nice little thing to tie it all up and push him over the edge :lol:

Plus, how good was 'the fixer'? He looked like Leonard Nimoy!

Can you imagine what that moment is going to be like when Walt sees Jesse again *shivers*

Obilatory Breaking bad comic

Image
So good :lol:


Leonard Nimroy? Really?

You might know him as the tough drill instructor from Full Metal Jacket. And he was er... A ghost drill instructor in The frighters.

Nimroy? My good god man. If he read that, he'll skull strawberry float you. (Film reference.)


It wasn't R. Lee Ermey. It was Robert Forster (of Jackie Brown, amongst other things).

Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - [Felina.]

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:42 am
by Skarjo
Nibble wrote:
Skarjo wrote:What was the lawyer who looked like a young Kevin Spacey from?


Didn't he play the movie executive from those Orange ads you got at the cinema a few years back?


:lol:

strawberry float, yea, you're right.

Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - [Felina.]

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:55 am
by Pedro
Skarjo wrote:
Nibble wrote:
Skarjo wrote:What was the lawyer who looked like a young Kevin Spacey from?


Didn't he play the movie executive from those Orange ads you got at the cinema a few years back?


:lol:

strawberry float, yea, you're right.


I noticed that as I was watching and pulled me completely out of the scene. I hope he doesn't feature in the fianle.

Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - [Felina.]

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:14 am
by abcd
Great episode...but.


What are the chances of Walt seeing something on telly about himself whilst in the middle of nowhere and the one time in many months he decided to venture out of his hut.....

Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - [Felina.]

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:29 am
by Charles Bronson
abcd wrote:Great episode...but.


What are the chances of Walt seeing something on telly about himself whilst in the middle of nowhere and the one time in many months he decided to venture out of his hut.....


Yeah that's the only thing that bothered me.

Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - [Felina.]

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:43 am
by Rog
It's easily forgiveable. Would have been more realistic to have it be an interview in the big stack of papers but the scene is a lot better with the visuals of who they are to remind the viewer and seeing Walt's direct reaction as it unfolds.

Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - [Felina.]

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:50 am
by Fatal Exception
aayl1 wrote:
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:lol: This is never going to get old. Like Jessie's Girlfriend

Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - [Felina.]

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:52 am
by Slartibartfast
:fp: You people.

Great episode, and despite one death, it is the calm before the storm.

Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - [Felina.]

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:16 am
by Skarjo
Fatal Exception wrote:
aayl1 wrote:
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:lol: This is never going to get old. Like Jessie's Girlfriend


:lol: :fp: :lol:

Re: The Breaking Bad Thread - [Felina.]

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:03 am
by Memento Mori
Does anyone in this thread know how to spell Jesse properly?

Brerlappins little hat wrote:I didnt think next weeks was the finale! :shock:

One thing i noticed, in the very first ep of season 8,

the gun walt has in his trunk is an M60, the very weapon one of the aryans used in last weeks episode when shooting up hank and gomie. Its too unique a weapon for it not to be the same one. So he must get the better of the aryans somehow to come out of it with that gun

Maybe just a coincidence, but knowing this show, i think not


Didn't he buy the gun from Jim Beaver?