The Breaking Bad Thread

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by Victor Mildew » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:53 am

:lol: strawberry float me

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PostRe: The Breaking Bad Thread - Is it Monday yet?!
by KomandaHeck » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:40 am

Alpha eX wrote:Incredible! :lol:

Not really a spoiler though, just Hank having a gooseberry fool.


True enough, wanted to play it safe though as this is the last show I'd want to ruin for someone even in the slightest way.

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by Jam-Master Jay » Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:30 pm

strawberry floating hell. :lol:

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by ~Earl Grey~ » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:36 pm

"Were you there when she said that?" just makes it for me!

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by Phatman » Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:37 pm

The Guardian wrote:Breaking Bad: five things Vince Gilligan told Charlie Brooker at the Edinburgh TV festival

Vince Gilligan revealed a grim storyline that was dropped, how they invented Mike and the secret of the show's awesome cinematography

In one of the busiest sessions of this year's Edinburgh TV festival, Breaking Bad showrunner Vince Gilligan was interviewed by the Guardian's Charlie Brooker on stage, with Laura Fraser, who plays Lydia in the final season, part of an enthusiastic audience. Gilligan is notoriously tight-lipped on spoilers and gave nothing away about how Walter White's journey will end, nor did he reveal much more about the mooted Saul Goodman spin-off, other than to say, "Knock on wood, I have a good feeling about it." Gilligan did, however, reveal a number of BB anecdotes that were tastier than a Los Pollos Hermanos bargain bucket.

1. Jane's story could have been even darker

Brooker showed the clip of Walt watching Jesse's girlfriend Jane choke to death in season two, explaining that it was the point at which he lost all sympathy for the lead character. Gilligan elaborated that it was the only time the network got in touch to express concern about the show's content. "That was the moment AMC and Sony called me up and said, this one makes us nervous. We had a big phone discussion about it." He went on to reveal that his original idea for the storyline had Walt administering a second dose of heroin: "he kills her on purpose". But this version never made it to the script stage - Gilligan was voted down by his writers. "It's that old story, if enough people tell you you're drunk, you need to sit down. I trust my six writers very much. They told me I was drunk at that point."

2. Mike was a hasty add-on

Jane's death was supposed to be covered up by Saul Goodman, but actor Bob Odenkirk was unavailable to film those scenes due to prior commitments: "So very quickly we came up with the character of Mike the cleaner. It was one of those happy accidents."

3. Breaking Bad looks the way it does because TVs are bigger

The show's distinctive style is inspired by, among others, Sergio Leone, westerns and Akira Kurosawa, but there's a more prosaic reason that it looks the way it does, with those gorgeous wide shots of Albuquerque. "I realised we had the facility to do that with these big TVs we watch now, as opposed to the little tube TVs we had years ago," he said.

4. Hank was 'an asshole jock' until the writers got to know Dean Norris

Gilligan discussed how much Hank has changed since the early episodes. "[Hank] was by design everything that Walt was not, kind of an asshole jock. Once I got to know Dean Norris, I started to realise how complex he is, and some of those facets made their way into the character. He became less of a jerk and more of a well-rounded character."

5. Vince Gilligan is Walter White

Gilligan started to work on the idea for the show after a two-year period of unemployment. "Breaking Bad came out of some issues I was having at the time," he said. "Walter White and I, unfortunately for me, share a lot of similarities. Pre-meth-cooking," he clarified. "Not Heisenberg." But Gilligan is not very good at science. "I never actually took a chemistry course in my life," he said.


Source: http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio ... ie-brooker

Good decision on the Jane storyline if you ask me, his descent needed to be subtle. Direct murder wouldn't have been.

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PostRe: The Breaking Bad Thread - Is it Monday yet?!
by D_C » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:46 pm

S05E08 spoilers:

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The foreshadowing in this show is brilliant.

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PostRe: The Breaking Bad Thread - Is it Monday yet?!
by Gario » Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:10 pm

You're possibly reading into that too much. Hank is the sort of joker who would make a comment like that.

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by Charles Bronson » Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:37 pm

Well, the spoiler I thought I read in the comment section wasn't true.

Awesome episode. Goddamn cliffhangers, but then what do you expect from this show?

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PostRe: The Breaking Bad Thread - Is it Monday yet?!
by Ironhide » Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:15 pm

I thought Jane's death happened the way it did because Walt had no idea what to do and hesitated, not because he actually wanted her dead.

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by Wedgie » Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:28 pm

Ironhide wrote:I thought Jane's death happened the way it did because Walt had no idea what to do and hesitated, not because he actually wanted her dead.


Watch the scene again. He did reach out but changed his mind. He allowed her to die for his own selfish gains.

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by Jam-Master Jay » Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:04 pm

Meh, she was a bitch.

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PostRe: The Breaking Bad Thread - Is it Monday yet?!
by Mockmaster » Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:15 pm

Interesting article written by Anna Gunn about the hate Skyler and she have received.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/24/opini ... .html?_r=0

LOS ANGELES — PLAYING Skyler White on the television show “Breaking Bad” for the past five seasons has been one of the most rewarding creative journeys I’ve embarked on as an actor. But the role has also taken me on another kind of journey — one I never would have imagined.

My character, to judge from the popularity of Web sites and Facebook pages devoted to hating her, has become a flash point for many people’s feelings about strong, nonsubmissive, ill-treated women. As the hatred of Skyler blurred into loathing for me as a person, I saw glimpses of an anger that, at first, simply bewildered me.

For those unfamiliar with the show: Skyler is the wife of Walter White, a high-school chemistry teacher who, after learning he has lung cancer, begins cooking and selling methamphetamine to leave a nest egg for Skyler, their teenage son and their unborn daughter. After his prognosis improves, however, Walter continues in the drug trade — with considerable success — descending deeper and deeper into a life of crime.

When Skyler discovers what Walter has been up to, she tries to stop him, to no avail. She is outraged by the violence and destruction of the drug world, fearful for her children’s safety, disgusted by the money Walter brings in and undone by the lies and manipulation to which he subjects her.

Because Walter is the show’s protagonist, there is a natural tendency to empathize with and root for him, despite his moral failings. (That viewers can identify with this antihero is also a testament to how deftly his character is written and acted.) As the one character who consistently opposes Walter and calls him on his lies, Skyler is, in a sense, his antagonist. So from the beginning, I was aware that she might not be the show’s most popular character.

But I was unprepared for the vitriolic response she inspired. Thousands of people have “liked” the Facebook page “I Hate Skyler White.” Tens of thousands have “liked” a similar Facebook page with a name that cannot be printed here. When people started telling me about the “hate boards” for Skyler on the Web site for AMC, the network that broadcasts the show, I knew it was probably best not to look, but I wanted to understand what was happening.

A typical online post complained that Skyler was a “shrieking, hypocritical harpy” and didn’t “deserve the great life she has.”

“I have never hated a TV-show character as much as I hate her,” one poster wrote. The consensus among the haters was clear: Skyler was a ball-and-chain, a drag, a shrew, an “annoying bitch wife.”

I enjoy taking on complex, difficult characters and have always striven to capture the truth of those people, whether or not it’s popular. Vince Gilligan, the creator of “Breaking Bad,” wanted Skyler to be a woman with a backbone of steel who would stand up to whatever came her way, who wouldn’t just collapse in the corner or wring her hands in despair. He and the show’s writers made Skyler multilayered and, in her own way, morally compromised. But at the end of the day, she hasn’t been judged by the same set of standards as Walter.

As an actress, I realize that viewers are entitled to have whatever feelings they want about the characters they watch. But as a human being, I’m concerned that so many people react to Skyler with such venom. Could it be that they can’t stand a woman who won’t suffer silently or “stand by her man”? That they despise her because she won’t back down or give up? Or because she is, in fact, Walter’s equal?

It’s notable that viewers have expressed similar feelings about other complex TV wives — Carmela Soprano of “The Sopranos,” Betty Draper of “Mad Men.” Male characters don’t seem to inspire this kind of public venting and vitriol.

At some point on the message boards, the character of Skyler seemed to drop out of the conversation, and people transferred their negative feelings directly to me. The already harsh online comments became outright personal attacks. One such post read: “Could somebody tell me where I can find Anna Gunn so I can kill her?” Besides being frightened (and taking steps to ensure my safety), I was also astonished: how had disliking a character spiraled into homicidal rage at the actress playing her?

But I finally realized that most people’s hatred of Skyler had little to do with me and a lot to do with their own perception of women and wives. Because Skyler didn’t conform to a comfortable ideal of the archetypical female, she had become a kind of Rorschach test for society, a measure of our attitudes toward gender.

I can’t say that I have enjoyed being the center of the storm of Skyler hate. But in the end, I’m glad that this discussion has happened, that it has taken place in public and that it has illuminated some of the dark and murky corners that we often ignore or pretend aren’t still there in our everyday lives.

Anna Gunn is an actress.

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PostRe: The Breaking Bad Thread - Is it Monday yet?!
by ~Earl Grey~ » Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:40 pm

Anna Gunn - now I'd definitely eat her veggie bacon, if you know what I mean...

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PostRe: The Breaking Bad Thread - Is it Monday yet?!
by Charles Bronson » Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:29 pm

I think it was only as I rewatched the show that I understood how early on Walt becomes evil, so to speak, and that Skyler is never really in the wrong for "acting like a bitch". The show makes it seem so easy for Walt to get rich, and the fact that he's dealing with scum, cooking poison for junkies is more like a minor set back, and a cool one at that. In the last episode before the break, Walt is acting as if he's trying to get back to his wife after a mundane bump in their marriage and nothing more. If anything she should've left sooner and ratted Walt out.


And also, the general public not being able to tell a character and the actor that plays it apart, what's new. Actually, the general public being a bunch of morons, and the internet bringing out the worst of that as usual.

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by Skippy » Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:26 pm

Wedgie wrote:
Ironhide wrote:I thought Jane's death happened the way it did because Walt had no idea what to do and hesitated, not because he actually wanted her dead.


Watch the scene again. He did reach out but changed his mind. He allowed her to die for his own selfish gains.


Absolutely, didn't think there was any other way that scene could be interpreted

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PostRe: The Breaking Bad Thread - Is it Monday yet?!
by Grumpy David » Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:35 pm

Walt has always made the correct decisions regarding moral choices. It's all in the game, yo.

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PostRe: The Breaking Bad Thread - Is it Monday yet?!
by Ironhide » Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:16 pm

It's actually quite difficult to be empathetic towards Walt now, he's changed far too much.

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by Mintoisgod » Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:34 pm

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Spoiler'd for big.

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PostRe: The Breaking Bad Thread - New episode today!
by satriales » Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:16 am

Today's episode was soo good!

Lots of things I didn't see coming! :shock:

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PostRe: The Breaking Bad Thread - New episode today!
by KomandaHeck » Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:19 am

Today's episode was brilliant! Next week can't come soon enough.


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