Brexit Thread 2

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Garth » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:12 am

Dutch government says over 250 companies in talks about relocating to Netherlands

More than 250 companies are in touch with the Dutch government about moving to the Netherlands because of Brexit, officials have said.

The trade and investment arm of the country’s government has been soliciting moves from companies worried about access to the EU market, with Britain set to leave the single market and customs union.

A number of high-profile companies have already announced a decision to cross the North Sea, most recently Japanese electronics giant Sony specifically citing Brexit. Last year Panasonic also announced it was moving to Amsterdam.

Michiel Bakhuizen, a spokesman for the Netherlands Foreign Investment Agency (NFIA), told the AFP news agency that the number of firms in talks was growing.

A final figure would be announced next month cataloguing the relocations, he said, stating that “every new arrival of a business, big or small, is a success”.

“The number of businesses we are in contact with for a possible arrival is growing. At the start of 2017 it was 80, at the start of 2018 150, and now it’s more than 250,” he said.

“This increase will continue and it’s not strange, because there is great uncertainty at the moment in Britain. And if there is one thing that’s bad for business, it’s uncertainty.”

The spokesperson confirmed that that the NFIA was “in contact with more than 250 interested in an eventual move to the Netherlands because of Brexit”.

The Netherlands has sometimes appeared better prepared for Brexit than the UK, with advanced plans to recruit as many as 1,000 extra border officials to deal with potential disruption and extra bureaucracy caused by the UK’s exit.

In addition to private businesses, the UK has also lost a key EU agency to Amsterdam: the European Medicines Agency, which employs around 900 highly skilled workers.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 42756.html?

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Errkal » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:16 am

wurf it 4 indipandanc from da Eyou!

Problee al stafed bi peepol dat r on benefits and lazy nEway!

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Moggy » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:20 am

Errkal wrote:wurf it 4 indipandanc from da Eyou!

Problee al stafed bi peepol dat r on benefits and lazy nEway!


I love that Errkal thinks he is satirising the way people write on Facebook, but that we all just assume it is a normal Errkal post. ;)

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by Errkal » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:22 am

Moggy wrote:
Errkal wrote:wurf it 4 indipandanc from da Eyou!

Problee al stafed bi peepol dat r on benefits and lazy nEway!


I love that Errkal thinks he is satirising the way people write on Facebook, but that we all just assume it is a normal Errkal post. ;)


:(

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Moggy » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:30 am

Errkal wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Errkal wrote:wurf it 4 indipandanc from da Eyou!

Problee al stafed bi peepol dat r on benefits and lazy nEway!


I love that Errkal thinks he is satirising the way people write on Facebook, but that we all just assume it is a normal Errkal post. ;)


:(


:wub:

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Photek » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:40 pm

Moggy wrote:
Errkal wrote:wurf it 4 indipandanc from da Eyou!

Problee al stafed bi peepol dat r on benefits and lazy nEway!


I love that Errkal thinks he is satirising the way people write on Facebook, but that we all just assume it is a normal Errkal post. ;)

I thought he was writing in Dutch... :?:

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Garth » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:43 pm

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Photek » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:44 pm

Tony. :wub:

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by NickSCFC » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:07 pm

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/je ... 44061.html

Corbyn knows May cannot rule out no deal at this stage. By refusing to participate in private discussions, Corbyn knows full well he is pushing May further in the direction of the hard Brexiteers within her party, making no deal much more likely.

This is not to suggest that Corbyn wants to leave without a withdrawal deal. But he is quite prepared to risk a no deal exit for the sake of pursuing his only meaningful ambition, that is, a general election.

Crucially, this is also a strategy which serves only to nudge the UK ever closer to a chaotic exit. This is partly because Labour would in all likelihood lose a general election, as things stand. It is also partly because May is not going to lose a confidence vote, or voluntarily resign – so demanding her departure makes compromise ever more unlikely.


Both parties now know that No Deal is unavoidable and are positioning themselves in order to heap blame on the party once the inevitable repercussions occur.

In other words, we're strawberry floated.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Photek » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:17 pm

NickSCFC wrote:https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-no-deal-brexit-theresa-may-labour-party-a8744061.html

Corbyn knows May cannot rule out no deal at this stage. By refusing to participate in private discussions, Corbyn knows full well he is pushing May further in the direction of the hard Brexiteers within her party, making no deal much more likely.

This is not to suggest that Corbyn wants to leave without a withdrawal deal. But he is quite prepared to risk a no deal exit for the sake of pursuing his only meaningful ambition, that is, a general election.

Crucially, this is also a strategy which serves only to nudge the UK ever closer to a chaotic exit. This is partly because Labour would in all likelihood lose a general election, as things stand. It is also partly because May is not going to lose a confidence vote, or voluntarily resign – so demanding her departure makes compromise ever more unlikely.


Both parties now know that No Deal is unavoidable and are positioning themselves in order to heap blame on the party once the inevitable repercussions occur.

In other words, we're strawberry floated.

Which means, so are we. Thanks UK, for putting us into this disaster we literally had no say in and if we did, we might have seen Remain win.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by NickSCFC » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:23 pm

Photek wrote:
NickSCFC wrote:https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-no-deal-brexit-theresa-may-labour-party-a8744061.html

Corbyn knows May cannot rule out no deal at this stage. By refusing to participate in private discussions, Corbyn knows full well he is pushing May further in the direction of the hard Brexiteers within her party, making no deal much more likely.

This is not to suggest that Corbyn wants to leave without a withdrawal deal. But he is quite prepared to risk a no deal exit for the sake of pursuing his only meaningful ambition, that is, a general election.

Crucially, this is also a strategy which serves only to nudge the UK ever closer to a chaotic exit. This is partly because Labour would in all likelihood lose a general election, as things stand. It is also partly because May is not going to lose a confidence vote, or voluntarily resign – so demanding her departure makes compromise ever more unlikely.


Both parties now know that No Deal is unavoidable and are positioning themselves in order to heap blame on the party once the inevitable repercussions occur.

In other words, we're strawberry floated.

Which means, so are we. Thanks UK, for putting us into this disaster we literally had no say in and if we did, we might have seen Remain win.


Wonder if the benefits of Ireland being the USA's new gateway to the EU and banks/companies relocating to Dublin outweigh the negatives.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Winckle » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:41 pm

NickSCFC wrote:https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-no-deal-brexit-theresa-may-labour-party-a8744061.html

Corbyn knows May cannot rule out no deal at this stage. By refusing to participate in private discussions, Corbyn knows full well he is pushing May further in the direction of the hard Brexiteers within her party, making no deal much more likely.

This is not to suggest that Corbyn wants to leave without a withdrawal deal. But he is quite prepared to risk a no deal exit for the sake of pursuing his only meaningful ambition, that is, a general election.

Crucially, this is also a strategy which serves only to nudge the UK ever closer to a chaotic exit. This is partly because Labour would in all likelihood lose a general election, as things stand. It is also partly because May is not going to lose a confidence vote, or voluntarily resign – so demanding her departure makes compromise ever more unlikely.


Both parties now know that No Deal is unavoidable and are positioning themselves in order to heap blame on the party once the inevitable repercussions occur.

In other words, we're strawberry floated.

That's some really hard spin there. Jeremy Corbyn refuses to meet with May until she calls off the threat of No Deal, therefore it's his fault we're heading towards No Deal.

We should migrate GRcade to Flarum. :toot:
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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Photek » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:47 pm

NickSCFC wrote:Wonder if the benefits of Ireland being the USA's new gateway to the EU and banks/companies relocating to Dublin outweigh the negatives.


We've had the US tech companies here for years now, Google and Facebook just announced a few thousand jobs in the past month and Dublin has acquired more London financial firms than any other EU city but still, just as a land bridge, a no deal is a major headache for us. (we didn't get Sony, but we already have Microsoft) :shifty:

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by NickSCFC » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:49 pm

Winckle wrote:
NickSCFC wrote:https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-no-deal-brexit-theresa-may-labour-party-a8744061.html

Corbyn knows May cannot rule out no deal at this stage. By refusing to participate in private discussions, Corbyn knows full well he is pushing May further in the direction of the hard Brexiteers within her party, making no deal much more likely.

This is not to suggest that Corbyn wants to leave without a withdrawal deal. But he is quite prepared to risk a no deal exit for the sake of pursuing his only meaningful ambition, that is, a general election.

Crucially, this is also a strategy which serves only to nudge the UK ever closer to a chaotic exit. This is partly because Labour would in all likelihood lose a general election, as things stand. It is also partly because May is not going to lose a confidence vote, or voluntarily resign – so demanding her departure makes compromise ever more unlikely.


Both parties now know that No Deal is unavoidable and are positioning themselves in order to heap blame on the party once the inevitable repercussions occur.

In other words, we're strawberry floated.

That's some really hard spin there. Jeremy Corbyn refuses to meet with May until she calls off the threat of No Deal, therefore it's his fault we're heading towards No Deal.


Not quite, BOTH are putting party before country.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Photek » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:52 pm

Not that you don't already know this but, apart from the financial hit, we are laughing at the lunacy of your parliament. It's outrageous.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by DML » Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:01 pm

Photek wrote:Not that you don't already know this but, apart from the financial hit, we are laughing at the lunacy of your parliament. It's outrageous.


There's nothing to laugh about. This will affect all our kids if it carries out, its absolutely disgusting. I'm done with the whole 'laughing at Trump' type thing.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Blue Eyes » Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:04 pm

If it weren't for laughter there'd be many a tear.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by NickSCFC » Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:09 pm

DML wrote:
Photek wrote:Not that you don't already know this but, apart from the financial hit, we are laughing at the lunacy of your parliament. It's outrageous.


There's nothing to laugh about. This will affect all our kids if it carries out, its absolutely disgusting. I'm done with the whole 'laughing at Trump' type thing.


Trump's nothing compared to this, his legacy will be undone in the space of a few years.

The effect's of Brexit will last for decades.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Winckle » Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:12 pm

NickSCFC wrote:
Winckle wrote:
NickSCFC wrote:https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-no-deal-brexit-theresa-may-labour-party-a8744061.html

Corbyn knows May cannot rule out no deal at this stage. By refusing to participate in private discussions, Corbyn knows full well he is pushing May further in the direction of the hard Brexiteers within her party, making no deal much more likely.

This is not to suggest that Corbyn wants to leave without a withdrawal deal. But he is quite prepared to risk a no deal exit for the sake of pursuing his only meaningful ambition, that is, a general election.

Crucially, this is also a strategy which serves only to nudge the UK ever closer to a chaotic exit. This is partly because Labour would in all likelihood lose a general election, as things stand. It is also partly because May is not going to lose a confidence vote, or voluntarily resign – so demanding her departure makes compromise ever more unlikely.


Both parties now know that No Deal is unavoidable and are positioning themselves in order to heap blame on the party once the inevitable repercussions occur.

In other words, we're strawberry floated.

That's some really hard spin there. Jeremy Corbyn refuses to meet with May until she calls off the threat of No Deal, therefore it's his fault we're heading towards No Deal.


Not quite, BOTH are putting party before country.

How? Corbyn is explicitly saying "Ensure No Deal first, then you'll have my (and Labour's) co-operation in figuring out a deal". May choosing to not rule out No Deal so she can use it as a cudgel to scare MPs doesn't put Corbyn at fault.

We should migrate GRcade to Flarum. :toot:
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by Pedz » Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:25 pm

Winckle wrote:
NickSCFC wrote:
Winckle wrote:
NickSCFC wrote:https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-no-deal-brexit-theresa-may-labour-party-a8744061.html

Corbyn knows May cannot rule out no deal at this stage. By refusing to participate in private discussions, Corbyn knows full well he is pushing May further in the direction of the hard Brexiteers within her party, making no deal much more likely.

This is not to suggest that Corbyn wants to leave without a withdrawal deal. But he is quite prepared to risk a no deal exit for the sake of pursuing his only meaningful ambition, that is, a general election.

Crucially, this is also a strategy which serves only to nudge the UK ever closer to a chaotic exit. This is partly because Labour would in all likelihood lose a general election, as things stand. It is also partly because May is not going to lose a confidence vote, or voluntarily resign – so demanding her departure makes compromise ever more unlikely.


Both parties now know that No Deal is unavoidable and are positioning themselves in order to heap blame on the party once the inevitable repercussions occur.

In other words, we're strawberry floated.

That's some really hard spin there. Jeremy Corbyn refuses to meet with May until she calls off the threat of No Deal, therefore it's his fault we're heading towards No Deal.


Not quite, BOTH are putting party before country.

How? Corbyn is explicitly saying "Ensure No Deal first, then you'll have my (and Labour's) co-operation in figuring out a deal". May choosing to not rule out No Deal so she can use it as a cudgel to scare MPs doesn't put Corbyn at fault.


I guess because she can't rule it out? I thought it was what happens if a deal isn't struck. Which means she can't really say there will be no no deal. Am I wrong here?

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