Brexit Thread 2

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How would you vote if we had to vote again?

Leave
12
7%
Remain
159
93%
 
Total votes: 171
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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Moggy » Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:17 am

Hyperion wrote:
Peston wrote:But even if a few Labour eurosceptics were to rebel against Corbyn, May will struggle to win.


I don't get this bit. Surely you'd need lots of Labour MPs to vote against the government to defeat them? Or is he saying that the majority of Tory MPs will???


I think he is saying that he expects Corbyn to now support a customs union and will therefore be instructing his MPs to vote against May. May will then struggle to win even if some Labour MPs vote against Corbyn’s decision.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Hypes » Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:29 am

Moggy wrote:
Hyperion wrote:
Peston wrote:But even if a few Labour eurosceptics were to rebel against Corbyn, May will struggle to win.


I don't get this bit. Surely you'd need lots of Labour MPs to vote against the government to defeat them? Or is he saying that the majority of Tory MPs will???


I think he is saying that he expects Corbyn to now support a customs union and will therefore be instructing his MPs to vote against May. May will then struggle to win even if some Labour MPs vote against Corbyn’s decision.


Ah, yes, read eurosceptic wrong

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Hexx » Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:13 pm

Chuffin Hell. Corbyn's still pushing magical unicorns

The Labour leader told the GMB conference in Britain that Labour wants a customs union with the EU after Brexit that would allow the UK to strike its own trade deals.

This repeats what Corbyn said in his speech in February announcing Labour’s support for staying in a customs union long term, but it is contentious because many would argue that the two goals are incompatible.

Corbyn also restated his opposition to the so-called Norway option.


Chufff him and chuff his fanatics.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by DML » Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:27 pm

Hexx wrote:Chuffin Hell. Corbyn's still pushing magical unicorns

The Labour leader told the GMB conference in Britain that Labour wants a customs union with the EU after Brexit that would allow the UK to strike its own trade deals.

This repeats what Corbyn said in his speech in February announcing Labour’s support for staying in a customs union long term, but it is contentious because many would argue that the two goals are incompatible.

Corbyn also restated his opposition to the so-called Norway option.


Chufff him and chuff his fanatics.


The problem is 52% believe in unicorns.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Hexx » Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:31 pm

No the problem is that Corbyn is thick as muck, and will have read some Anti-EU pamphlet in the his adolescence that quickly became his entrenched viewpoint.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Garth » Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:03 pm

twitter.com/hzeffman/status/1004038161289367552


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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Return_of_the_STAR » Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:11 pm

Garth wrote:

twitter.com/hzeffman/status/1004038161289367552



If they are going to say that we need to stay in a new version of the single market again then it’s all just pie in the sky. If they are suggesting that we stay in the single market as it currently is then that’s a new direction for them.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Garth » Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:25 pm

twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1004060420234186753


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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Garth » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:49 pm

twitter.com/britainelects/status/1003965956295708672


twitter.com/britainelects/status/1003967417339514880


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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Rex Kramer » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:53 pm

36%? What the strawberry float are that lot smoking?

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Hexx » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:59 pm

twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1004038742129172480



Called it. They’ll abstain, wave through Brexit and then witter it’d be great if only their version of cake was achieved.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Return_of_the_STAR » Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:07 pm

Hexx wrote:

twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1004038742129172480



Called it. They’ll abstain, wave through Brexit and then witter it’d be great if only their version of cake was achieved.


Yep definitely going to be the case. There plans for an ‘internal market’ are just carefully worded hopes and dreams that will never come to reality as labour wont actually get to negotiate with the EU anyway. They’ve written it in a way that some people will just think labour want to stay in the single market and it will get them support when I reality they just want to negotiate a new deal just like the tories claim they want to. Neither deal will be acceptable to the EU.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by DML » Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:33 pm

So sick of everyone in government. Grow a backbone.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Lex-Man » Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:54 pm

So basically it's going to get through parliament and then get kicked out by house of lords.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Squinty » Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:47 am

Labour truly are strawberry floating gooseberry fool.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Moggy » Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:50 am

Hexx wrote:

twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1004038742129172480



Called it. They’ll abstain, wave through Brexit and then witter it’d be great if only their version of cake was achieved.


Yep.

After Brexit there are going to be so many factions around claiming that everything would have been wonderful if their plan had been followed.

The Corbyn side of Labour will be blaming the Tories and telling us how "a" customs union would have been fine under them.

The Johnson/Gove side of the Conservatives will be blaming May and telling us how it would have all been fine if it was up to them.

The Rees-Mogg side of the Conservatives will be pretending it is still 1877.

Farage types will be calling it "a great betrayal" and blame everyone in sight for not being tough enough to go for no deal. Oh and it will be Remainers and immigrants that undermined everything.

We are in for a fun few years. :lol:

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Moggy » Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:52 am

Squinty wrote:Labour truly are strawberry floating gooseberry fool.


There are some decent people in Labour. Sadly they are drowned out by the Corbyn side of the party, which is truly appalling.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Squinty » Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:49 am

Moggy wrote:
Squinty wrote:Labour truly are strawberry floating gooseberry fool.


There are some decent people in Labour. Sadly they are drowned out by the Corbyn side of the party, which is truly appalling.


Actually, that was a bit silly of me. But my god, the corbyn side of the party are idiots. Don't worry folks, he's playing 4D chess.

In other news,

twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1004248254031237121


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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Moggy » Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:59 am

Squinty wrote:In other news,

twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1004248254031237121



It's all going so well. :toot:

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Hypes » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:04 am

Anybody mentioned Gibraltar yet?


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