Moggy wrote:Rex Kramer wrote:Moggy wrote:Or for Labour:
I don't really understand how the whole party didn't just shrivel up and die with shame after the Iraq years, but there they are walking around like they still have any moral legitimacy. God bless their dessicated soulless little husks!
Don't you know? That wasn't the true labour party. That was a party that was hijacked and threw their real socialist values out of the window. The true labour party would never have done such a thing.
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The true labour party would never have been elected in the first place.
It was that Tory Blair that did it.
To be fair, the leadership who happened to be there at the point of decision is obviously a big factor. John Smith would likely have won in 1997 regardless and maybe wouldn't have taken Britain into a blatantly dodgy war into Iraq? A Smith led Labour government would have looked and acted reasonably different to a Blair led one (although not socialist), while still probably beating the Tories electorally.
I read this pretty daft what if scenario in The Guardian years ago that ends with Ken Livingstone of all people becoming PM in 2001.
It made me laugh even back then. Could you imagine? Ken strawberry floating Livingstone!
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -had-livedAnyway, good thread of thoughts by the reliable lawyer David Allen Green on revoking Article 50 (i.e taking no deal off the table):