Brexit Thread 2

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Pedz » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:25 pm

So, genuine question. Does Mays failed plan mean it's more likely for a No Deal Brexit?

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by satriales » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:40 pm

Pedz wrote:So, genuine question. Does Mays failed plan mean it's more likely for a No Deal Brexit?

Potentially, but there is a majority in the house against no deal and they should be able to pressure her to rule it out.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Return_of_the_STAR » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:38 am

I heard earlier that May has to produce a plan in the next three days is that correct?

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by Errkal » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:48 am

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:I heard earlier that May has to produce a plan in the next three days is that correct?

It is, but I think he plan be was rumoured at being plan A again.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Lagamorph » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:35 am

Errkal wrote:
Return_of_the_STAR wrote:I heard earlier that May has to produce a plan in the next three days is that correct?

It is, but I think he plan be was rumoured at being plan A again.

It's not even a rumour, the AG confirmed it.

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by Dowbocop » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:40 am

Lagamorph wrote:
Errkal wrote:
Return_of_the_STAR wrote:I heard earlier that May has to produce a plan in the next three days is that correct?

It is, but I think he plan be was rumoured at being plan A again.

It's not even a rumour, the AG confirmed it.

Well Tulip Siddiq won't be there for the second vote so she's one better off already!

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Lagamorph » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:45 am

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Only 19% of the working class think Corbyn would make the best PM.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Errkal » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:47 am

That’s because Corbyn is a mong

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Hypes » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:09 am

A brain dead fish is better than May so that's not good.
Let's have a successful vote of no confidence and a coalition between Labour, Lib-Dem and SNP. They can't decide who should be PM so it's Caroline Lucas :wub:

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Errkal » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:12 am

Hyperion wrote:A brain dead fish is better than May so that's not good.
Let's have a successful vote of no confidence and a coalition between Labour, Lib-Dem and SNP. They can't decide who should be PM so it's Caroline Lucas :wub:


Sadly that coalition probably would never happen because of Corbyns insistence that he can unicorn the gooseberry fool out of Europe.

So we will have May or nothing as no one will be able to form a majority.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Moggy » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:17 am

Lagamorph wrote:
Errkal wrote:
Return_of_the_STAR wrote:I heard earlier that May has to produce a plan in the next three days is that correct?

It is, but I think he plan be was rumoured at being plan A again.

It's not even a rumour, the AG confirmed it.


“I suffered the biggest defeat in over 100 years. I’m sure they’ll listen to me next time”

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Errkal » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:20 am

Moggy wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
Errkal wrote:
Return_of_the_STAR wrote:I heard earlier that May has to produce a plan in the next three days is that correct?

It is, but I think he plan be was rumoured at being plan A again.

It's not even a rumour, the AG confirmed it.


“I suffered the biggest defeat in over 100 years. I’m sure they’ll listen to me next time”


Thing is there isn’t much else she can do, she can either do the same, move to call it all off or go strawberry float it no deal then.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Moggy » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:45 am

Errkal wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
Errkal wrote:
Return_of_the_STAR wrote:I heard earlier that May has to produce a plan in the next three days is that correct?

It is, but I think he plan be was rumoured at being plan A again.

It's not even a rumour, the AG confirmed it.


“I suffered the biggest defeat in over 100 years. I’m sure they’ll listen to me next time”


Thing is there isn’t much else she can do, she can either do the same, move to call it all off or go strawberry float it no deal then.


She could have tried not being a twat for the last 2 and a bit years.

She lost her majority after a foolish snap election. She is the head of the only government in history to be found in contempt of Parliament. She had 30 of her own MPs launch a confidence vote in her leadership. She suffered the biggest Parliamentary defeat in well over 100 years. The opposition are now planning a confidence motion in her government.

And her answer to all of that is "Meh, I will just carry on with the exact same thing I was doing".

And the worrying thing is it will not hurt her. Labour's confidence motion is doomed to fail and the Tories can't force her out for at least a year. And if a very highly unlikely election does happen, Corbyn is so unpopular that she will probably win. :fp:

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Errkal » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:48 am

Great isn’t it.....

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Squinty » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:50 am

Without serious parliamentary intervention, we are heading for dodgy waters. They will not be remembered kindly if this happens.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Errkal » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:57 am

Yeah I’m not sure how anything other than no deal happens as it needs a motion to go I. For parliament to vote on repealing Article 50 and May won’t raise it and I’m sure if someone else did she wouldn’t take it as an out but blast it down because it’s her way or damnation.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Squinty » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:21 am

Labour are going to fail with the confidence vote regardless. They are shite.

Brexit eh? What is it good for (absolutely nothing).

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Rex Kramer » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:28 am

Say it again.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Herdanos » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:56 am

I know he won't get in, but am I the only one that thinks it's not implausible for the EU to renegotiate with Corbyn?

The EU are, quite justifiably, pissed off by the right-wing of UK politics - I could see Tusk, Juncker etc giving a Labour government a watered-down single market access allowance (perhaps one applied more strongly in NI) if only to provide a middle finger to the Tories and UKIP.

I don't buy the "they need us more than we need them" argument in any form, but I would think the EU would act in the best interests of its members, and Ireland does stand to lose out under current Brexit thinking. Yes the "four freedoms" are non negotiable, but it wouldn't be without precedent* for them to offer some restrictions on migration, which would let Corbyn say he's "ended free movement" (as it wouldn't be TOTALLY free)

*The handbrake offer made to Cameron back when he got his concessions package back before this whole mess started

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Photek » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:23 am

Quantum Name wrote:I know he won't get in, but am I the only one that thinks it's not implausible for the EU to renegotiate with Corbyn?

Yes, Yes you are.

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