Brexit Thread 2

[TigaSefi]

LOL hopefully Brexit will be cancelled full stop

[satriales]

Once he loses the VOC, then for me he has to stick to his words and back a second referendum or he will lose my support at least.

Ditto. I suspect Labour were always planning to support a second referendum anyway once a general election was called, but when the VOC fails they need to make their position clear.

[Lagamorph]

twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1085262889915727874

[Moggy]

That is an utterly crushing defeat for May. She'd be gone by now in any other era.

She’d have been gone after her failed snap election in any other era.

[Moggy]

twitter.com/david_cameron/status/595112367358406656

[captain red dog]

That is an utterly crushing defeat for May. She'd be gone by now in any other era.

She’d have been gone after her failed snap election in any other era.

I blame you for not supporting the socialist utopia.

[Moggy]

That is an utterly crushing defeat for May. She'd be gone by now in any other era.

She’d have been gone after her failed snap election in any other era.

I blame you for not supporting the socialist utopia.

I voted Labour at the last two elections.

[Lex-Man]

There is no way the Tories will vote against her and the DUP are going to back her, so she's safe. It's a bit hard to say how this is going to end as no ones got a strong enough hand to win but nobodies going to fold.

[captain red dog]

That is an utterly crushing defeat for May. She'd be gone by now in any other era.

She’d have been gone after her failed snap election in any other era.

I blame you for not supporting the socialist utopia.

I voted Labour at the last two elections.

Then I'm glad to have you onboard comrade. I'll cancel that train to the gulag.

[Moggy]

That is an utterly crushing defeat for May. She'd be gone by now in any other era.

She’d have been gone after her failed snap election in any other era.

I blame you for not supporting the socialist utopia.

I voted Labour at the last two elections.

Then I'm glad to have you onboard comrade. I'll cancel that train to the gulag.

But I might not at the next election.

[Cuttooth]

That is an utterly crushing defeat for May. She'd be gone by now in any other era.

She’d have been gone after her failed snap election in any other era.

It does seem like 2016 just broke all norms.

Most PMs would have resigned after such a snap election strawberry float up.

Most Tory leaders would have resigned with 30% of MPs telling you to go.

Most PMs would have thought maybe the biggest parliamentary defeat in modern times on their key, historic bill might have been enough to call it a day.

Instead it's like May has just kept saying "I don't technically have to quit though, do I?" each and every time.

Once he loses the VOC, then for me he has to stick to his words and back a second referendum or he will lose my support at least.

Ditto. I suspect Labour were always planning to support a second referendum anyway once a general election was called, but when the VOC fails they need to make their position clear.

Oh come on! Why second guess the obvious reluctance to back a second referendum as anything but reluctance?

[captain red dog]

That is an utterly crushing defeat for May. She'd be gone by now in any other era.

She’d have been gone after her failed snap election in any other era.

It does seem like 2016 just broke all norms.

Most PMs would have resigned after such a snap election strawberry float up.

Most Tory leaders would have resigned with 30% of MPs telling you to go.

Most PMs would have thought maybe the biggest parliamentary defeat in modern times on their key, historic bill might have been enough to call it a day.

Instead it's like May has just kept saying "I don't technically have to quit though, do I?" each and every time.

Once he loses the VOC, then for me he has to stick to his words and back a second referendum or he will lose my support at least.

Ditto. I suspect Labour were always planning to support a second referendum anyway once a general election was called, but when the VOC fails they need to make their position clear.

Oh come on! Why second guess the obvious reluctance to back a second referendum as anything but reluctance?

All options to honour the referendum result have to be explored surely?

[Rex Kramer]

What an utterly nonsensical situation. You got a government that gets completely eradicated in a vote, a leader who won't resign under any circumstances, a party that can't remove her and an opposition that would still probably lose a general election if one was held tomorrow. And to cap it all, the minority party that hold the advantage when it comes to a voting majority will back the government in a no confidence vote even though they've plainly got absolutely no strawberry floating confidence in her at all.

[captain red dog]

Oh and anyone frustrated that the Government likely won't fall tomorrow can thank their lovely friends in the Lib Dems and Mr Clegg in particular for the coalition of 2010.

[more heat than light]

Why won't people that voted against her in the Tory no confidence vote vote against her in this one? Surely it's an easy way of ousting her?

[captain red dog]

Why won't people that voted against her in the Tory no confidence vote vote against her in this one? Surely it's an easy way of ousting her?

Tory MPs don't want to lose their seat or go into opposition I guess.

[Moggy]

Why won't people that voted against her in the Tory no confidence vote vote against her in this one? Surely it's an easy way of ousting her?

Replacing their leader is far more palatable than risking their own seats/grip on power.

[Cuttooth]

Oh and anyone frustrated that the Government likely won't fall tomorrow can thank their lovely friends in the Lib Dems and Mr Clegg in particular for the coalition of 2010.

Eh?

[Garth]

European Commission - Statement Statement by President Juncker on the outcome of the Meaningful Vote in the United Kingdom House of Commons
Brussels, 15 January 2019

I take note with regret of the outcome of the vote in the House of Commons this evening.

On the EU side, the process of ratification of the Withdrawal Agreement continues.

The Withdrawal Agreement is a fair compromise and the best possible deal. It reduces the damage caused by Brexit for citizens and businesses across Europe. It is the only way to ensure an orderly withdrawal of the United Kingdom from the European Union.

The European Commission, and notably our Chief Negotiator Michel Barnier, has invested enormous time and effort to negotiate the Withdrawal Agreement. We have shown creativity and flexibility throughout. I, together with President Tusk, have demonstrated goodwill again by offering additional clarifications and reassurances in an exchange of letters with Prime Minister May earlier this week.

The risk of a disorderly withdrawal of the United Kingdom has increased with this evening's vote. While we do not want this to happen, the European Commission will continue its contingency work to help ensure the EU is fully prepared.

I urge the United Kingdom to clarify its intentions as soon as possible.

Time is almost up.

[Lex-Man]

Why won't people that voted against her in the Tory no confidence vote vote against her in this one? Surely it's an easy way of ousting her?

It's an easy way of getting rid of themselves as the same time though.