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Re: Brexit Thread 2
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:56 pm
by Garth
Michael Gove has distanced himself from some of the arguments he made during the Brexit referendum, including claims over levels of Turkish immigration.
The Leave campaign was criticised at the time for suggesting Turkey may join the EU by 2020 and up to 5.2m more migrants could come to the UK by 2030.
In a new book, Mr Gove says it "did not get everything absolutely right".
"If it had been left entirely to me, the Leave campaign would have had a slightly different feel," he admits.
The claims about Turkey were strongly rejected at the time by Downing Street, which insisted that its accession was a long way off and that the UK would have a veto anyway.
In an interview for the book, Ctrl Alt Delete, Mr Baldwin asked the environment secretary whether he was entirely comfortable in "appealing to some very low sentiments".
Mr Gove is quoted as replying: "I know what you mean, yes. If it had been left entirely to me, the Leave campaign would have had a slightly different feel.
"I would have to go back and look at everything I said and think whether that was the right response at the right time. There is a sense at the back of my mind that we did not get everything absolutely right.
"It's a difficult one."
Mr Gove is also pressed in the book about his much-quoted claim from the campaign that people had "had enough of experts" telling them what to think about Brexit.
He says the remark was spontaneous rather than intended and designed not to denigrate expertise but to highlight past claims, such as over the 2008 financial crisis, which had been wrong.
"The irony, of course, is that I often cite experts to justify what I am doing," he adds.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-44852447Urgh.
Re: Brexit Thread 2
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:17 pm
by Garth
Might get some action instead of words from the Tory Remainers:
twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1018934004530274304
Re: Brexit Thread 2
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:17 pm
by Cuttooth
twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1018931969055514625
I need someone to untangle this for me.
Re: Brexit Thread 2
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:30 pm
by DML
Labour are trying to force checkmate. If the government can't get the numbers for either version of Brexit it must spell the collapse of the government. If they can show Mogg is just as weak as May the Tories are toast.
Re: Brexit Thread 2
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:32 pm
by Dual
Cuttooth wrote:
twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1018931969055514625
I need someone to untangle this for me.
Wait so who is rebelling against who now?
It's like a rubbish Game of Thrones.
Re: Brexit Thread 2
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:33 pm
by Garth
twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1018939945304690689
twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1018940935571496960
Re: Brexit Thread 2
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:02 pm
by Cuttooth
twitter.com/BenKentish/status/1018942800832925698
What the fuuuuuuuuuuck?
Re: Brexit Thread 2
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:12 pm
by Garth
twitter.com/Peston/status/1018948987850813440
twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1018947962360205317
Re: Brexit Thread 2
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:14 pm
by Garth
Seems like the perfect time for a holiday
Re: Brexit Thread 2
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:15 pm
by Moggy
Meep wrote:Also, I wouldn't be too worried about hard brexit. It's easy to exaggerate the impact it would have.
Meep wrote:If they can, everyone should start shovelling as much of their savings as they can into stocks and shares. Holding in cash is a really bad idea right now due to pending devaluation of the pound.
Yesterday: It’ll all be fine
Today: Get rid of all your cash
Tomorrow: Thermonuclear war!!!!!!
Re: Brexit Thread 2
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:20 pm
by Moggy
twitter.com/frankieboyle/status/1018936140093673472
Re: Brexit Thread 2
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:26 pm
by Lex-Man
Wait so who is rebelling against who now?
It's like a rubbish Game of Thrones.
May is just like a really gooseberry fool cersei Lannister though
Re: Brexit Thread 2
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:29 pm
by Squinty
LAZY. LAZY. strawberry floaters.
Re: Brexit Thread 2
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:29 pm
by Lex-Man
Is parliament now being scheduled like TV. That what to end the season on a cliff hanger.
Re: Brexit Thread 2
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:00 pm
by Cuttooth
twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1018963494841053184
Dang.
Re: Brexit Thread 2
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:03 pm
by Squinty
ERG is basically in control then.
Re: Brexit Thread 2
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:06 pm
by Hexx
No deal/Hard Brexit it is then
Re: Brexit Thread 2
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:06 pm
by DML
The opposition in the UK and the US are strawberry floating hopeless.
Re: Brexit Thread 2
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:08 pm
by Superking
I keep hearing about these moderate Tory rebels who again and again seem to do absolutely nothing
Re: Brexit Thread 2
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:09 pm
by Tineash
DML wrote:The opposition in the UK and the US are strawberry floating hopeless.
Tory 'rebels' got cowardly on this one, not Labour.
twitter.com/Peston/status/1018963285608161280