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Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:23 pm
by Moggy
Knoyleo wrote:
Moggy wrote:

twitter.com/dailymirror/status/1028939809866358784



:lol: :lol: :lol:

The genuine news story buried in that article, is that a woman with impaired mobility was given a hotel without the accessibility she needed, and even then put on a high floor, and Thomas Cook's response was to offer her a £75 voucher.

Of course she's a strawberry floating idiot for complaining that the Spanish should holiday elsewhere, but the story is one thing, and the headline another. Classic tabloid bollocks, throwing an idiot under the bus.


That might be true, but she still spends most of her time whining about Spanish people being in Spain. :lol:

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:44 pm
by Wrathy
I think she has a point to be fair. I currently live in England, which is being absolutely ruined by the English.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:25 am
by Alvin Flummux
We should've just let Germany win WW1. None of this would've happened if only we'd let the Kaiser win.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:46 am
by Moggy
Alvin Flummux wrote:We should've just let Germany win WW1. None of this would've happened if only we'd let the Kaiser win.


I have seen a lot of alternate history based around the Nazis winning, but it’s probably even more interesting to imagine a world where Germany won WW2. That war changed everything, things would be so different if the Kaiser had won.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:48 am
by Moggy
Wrathy wrote:I think she has a point to be fair. I currently live in England, which is being absolutely ruined by the English.


I watched Judge Rinder's Who Do You Think You Are last night. His family were slaughtered in the holocaust, but his grandfather survived and made his way to Britain. The way it was described and the welcome that the Jewish refugee children received (even though his granddad wasn't a child :slol: ) here made me so sad when comparing it to how people now are with child refugees.

So yeah, the English have absolutely ruined England.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:29 am
by Lex-Man
Moggy wrote:
Wrathy wrote:I think she has a point to be fair. I currently live in England, which is being absolutely ruined by the English.


I watched Judge Rinder's Who Do You Think You Are last night. His family were slaughtered in the holocaust, but his grandfather survived and made his way to Britain. The way it was described and the welcome that the Jewish refugee children received (even though his granddad wasn't a child :slol: ) here made me so sad when comparing it to how people now are with child refugees.

So yeah, the English have absolutely ruined England.


Don't worry I'm sure they glossed over the past and people were dicks back then too.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:24 pm
by KK
Brits don't give a Ron Jeremy about Brits abroad or the Irish; Europeans don't give a monkey's uncle about those in the UK either*

*apart from maybe Finland.

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Europeans are only somewhat more concerned about protecting the rights of their own nationals living in the UK post-Brexit. In Germany 27% said it should be a top priority for the EU negotiating team (making it fifth from a list of eight), while in France 25% said the same (making it their fourth most important priority).

As with Britons, Europeans are consistently more concerned with maintaining counter-terrorism links (35% of Germans and French, placing second and third respectively), but also “ensuring the UK pays what it owes upon leaving” and “making sure Britain does not get the rights of EU membership without being a member”.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:01 pm
by Rex Kramer
Apologies if this has already done the rounds, but :lol:

twitter.com/SarahDuggers/status/1029514363122659328


Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:11 pm
by Knoyleo
strawberry floating "who made this?" posts.

It was a comedy central commissioned skit: https://youtu.be/svwslRDTyzU

twitter.com/papsby/status/1029647612545302528


Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:27 pm
by Squinty
Yeah, that was great. Thing is, situation hasn't really change from when that was posted. The Boris as a child bit and the Corbyn bit are particularly relevant :lol: :fp:

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:06 pm
by Lagamorph

twitter.com/JamesERothwell/status/1029797909146087430



I understand that senior members of Britain's road haulage industry came out of a recent meeting with Grayling where they were astonished by his lack of grasp of the key detail on Brexit



One of them, Kevin Hopper, who runs a major firm up in Yorkshire, said that he tried to explain to Grayling that if there is no Brexit deal then UK haulage drivers won't be able to drive in EU as their papers will be invalid



Grayling, he says, "looked at me like I was speaking a foreign language."



Kevin, who has 40 years industry experience, then showed to Grayling a copy of the EU's notice to stakeholders from the Commission's website, which confirms exactly that: no deal, no recognition of UK drivers. This document: https://ec.europa.eu/transport/site...x ... nsport.pdf



Kevin says Grayling appeared to have never heard of this document but he insisted that "everything would be fine"



Kevin: "But what if there ISN'T a deal? Can you tell me, minister, what plans are there to remedy this situation?" Grayling: "Well, could you suggest anything?"



Kevin: I can't believe this

Grayling: What do you expect from me?

Kevin: I expect clarity

Grayling: What do you mean?

Kevin: I mean I want clarity

Grayling: I can't give you that



This was infuriating for Kevin and colleagues because they have **already** been forced to turn down contracts with EU countries as they don't know if they will be able to do those jobs.



The Department for Transport, however, says it is confident that there will be a deal with the EU but that everything will be fine if there is no deal. And that there will be plenty of permits in deal scenario.



Illustrates just how frustrated and angry businesses are with UK handling of these talks, The government appears to be sleepwalking towards no deal while claiming it's fine and dandy because there will be deal. There is a serious disconnect between what it says and what it does

Tl;dr: put Kevin in charge/ends

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:24 pm
by Rex Kramer
Christ almighty, Grayling is the Sergey Bubka of politics. Just when you think he's gone as far as is humanly possibly, he then manages to outdo himself. I've gone beyond the government being at fault for giving him cabinet positions. The blame lies with his constituents, how can you keep voting for someone who is patently inept?

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:29 pm
by Knoyleo
Rex Kramer wrote:Christ almighty, Grayling is the Sergey Bubka of politics. Just when you think he's gone as far as is humanly possibly, he then manages to outdo himself. I've gone beyond the government being at fault for giving him cabinet positions. The blame lies with his constituents, how can you keep voting for someone who is patently inept?

Surrey commuter belt, and Tory heartland. So long as he keeps railing against stamp duty and inheritance tax, he's fine. Transport is probably about the only ministerial office he's actually likely to give a strawberry float about given how many in his constituency commute to London by train, but even then, you know he won't give a gooseberry fool about other transport modes, or anywhere outside the South East.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:03 pm
by Meep
I'm imagining Chris Grayling being in charge of transport at the ports in the event of no deal. Everything is on fire.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:22 pm
by Lagamorph
https://www.dw.com/en/opinion-brexit-ha ... a-45084743

The UK's Brexit negotiations with the European Union are at an impasse — that's according to Prime Minister Theresa May. In a letter to her own divided Conservative party, she admits that, surrounded by red lines she is not allowed to cross, she can neither push ahead nor turn back. Brexit can't be too soft or too hard, or else the various parties and the EU will be unable to reach an agreement.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:37 am
by Moggy
Knoyleo wrote:
Rex Kramer wrote:Christ almighty, Grayling is the Sergey Bubka of politics. Just when you think he's gone as far as is humanly possibly, he then manages to outdo himself. I've gone beyond the government being at fault for giving him cabinet positions. The blame lies with his constituents, how can you keep voting for someone who is patently inept?

Surrey commuter belt, and Tory heartland. So long as he keeps railing against stamp duty and inheritance tax, he's fine. Transport is probably about the only ministerial office he's actually likely to give a strawberry float about given how many in his constituency commute to London by train, but even then, you know he won't give a gooseberry fool about other transport modes, or anywhere outside the South East.


Yep. Grayling is in such a safe Tory seat that he is guaranteed to remain an MP.

If anybody wants to know how bad our political system is, look up Graylings election record. Despite being utterly useless and strawberry floating up everything he touches, his share of the vote INCREASES every single election. :lol:

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:45 am
by Squinty
Chris Grayling is basically Brexit in a nutshell.

It will be fine.
But what about reality?
It will be fine.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:54 am
by Lex-Man
I think I heard him being interviewed on radio 4 about the train delays and he basically said it wasn't his responsibility to make the trains run on time as it's a privately owned system.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:57 am
by Moggy
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A British man has quit his job with the intention of spelling out the words “Stop Brexit” across Europe with a camper van and a GPS.

Andy Pardy, a digital information consultant, will travel to 32 European countries over the course of a three-month trip.

The 28-year-old has already written the “S”, “T” and “O” of “Stop” and is currently close to the most northern part of Norway, which forms part of the “P”.

After that he will head south and spell Brexit backwards, finishing his trip in Spain in October.

A passionate pro-remainer, Mr Pardy spent £6,000 (€6,665) on the VW Transporter and a further £5,000 (€5,554) on his cross-European trip.

“It’s a crazy idea,” he told The New European from the Arctic Circle.

“I had it when I was on a run. You know, I was tracing my route on a run using a running app and just thought, why can’t I do this on a big scale?”

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-sty ... -1.3590749


:lol: :fp:

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:18 am
by Errkal
:lol: awesome.