Brexit Thread 2

[Lex-Man]

Is Johnson's hair really better than Trumps? Clearly a question for the ages.

[Tineash]

If I said "Hey, remember that time the foreign secretary was crassly racist but faced no consequences?", you'd have to reply "Which one??"

[Squinty]

Is Johnson's hair really better than Trumps? Clearly a question for the ages.

Slightly. Still looks like a mop.

(Says the bald man)

[<]:^D]

If I said "Hey, remember that time the foreign secretary was crassly racist but faced no consequences?", you'd have to reply "Which one??"

[KK]

I hope everyone has been watching documentary series Carry on Brussels: Inside the EU on Channel 4. Very interesting.

[Lex-Man]

I hope everyone has been watching documentary series Carry on Brussels: Inside the EU on Channel 4. Very interesting.

UKIP are bloody annoying aren't they.

[Frank]

This may be way off but I presumed this was kind of the norm in the UK (esp England) because of space issues. Cattle over here is almost exclusively in open pastures and grass fed because as small as we are, we have a relatively small population and even in Dublin we have farms that aren't too far from the City Centre.

For someone who always likes to post about "you people" and the differences between England and Ireland I thought you'd know a little more about the country It's not *all* built up. There's fields and farms and everything! Heck, we've even got mountains if you know where to look.

[Moggy]

This may be way off but I presumed this was kind of the norm in the UK (esp England) because of space issues. Cattle over here is almost exclusively in open pastures and grass fed because as small as we are, we have a relatively small population and even in Dublin we have farms that aren't too far from the City Centre.

For someone who always likes to post about "you people" and the differences between England and Ireland I thought you'd know a little more about the country It's not *all* built up. There's fields and farms and everything! Heck, we've even got mountains if you know where to look.

For all the gammon screams of "WE ARE FULL UP!!", the UK is actually pretty green.

72.9% of England is farmland and 14.5% is natural. Only 8.8% is built on (with 3.8% being green urban). Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are even greener.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41901297

[Photek]

This may be way off but I presumed this was kind of the norm in the UK (esp England) because of space issues. Cattle over here is almost exclusively in open pastures and grass fed because as small as we are, we have a relatively small population and even in Dublin we have farms that aren't too far from the City Centre.

For someone who always likes to post about "you people" and the differences between England and Ireland I thought you'd know a little more about the country It's not *all* built up. There's fields and farms and everything! Heck, we've even got mountains if you know where to look.

I did start my entire post with "This may be way off" and I'm sure I've only talked about the UK government rather than "you people".

Anyway David Davis' idea's about a '10 mile border buffer zone' for Northern Ireland has reached our media to much laughter and condemnation.

[Moggy]

Anyway David Davis' idea's about a '10 mile border buffer zone' for Northern Ireland has reached our media to much laughter and condemnation.

I’ve only just seen that. Davis is such a strawberry floating clown.

[Garth]

They're talking joint EU and UK status for Northern Ireland as well as the 10 mile border buffer zone:

DAVID Davis is devising a new Brexit plan to break a talks deadlock by giving Northern Ireland joint EU and UK status as well as a border buffer zone.

Under the radical blueprint, the province would operate a double hatted regime of European and British regulations at the same time, so it can trade freely with both.

The Brexit Secretary is also drawing up a 10 mile-wide buffer zone the length of Northern Ireland’s 310 mile border with Ireland.

Dubbed a ‘special economic zone’, it will be for local traders such as dairy farmers – who make up 90 per cent of the cross border traffic - and share the same trade rules as south of the border.

The two plans will together eradicate the need for any border check points, which is a major EU demand.

But both run the risk of infuriating the DUP, whose 10 MPs are propping up Theresa May’s minority government.

Technology based solution abandoned:

Mr Davis ordered it after he was persuaded to abandon a technology based solution to keep the Irish border open.

Senior Ulster cops warned him that any border infrastructure, even if it’s just camera towers or swipe points, would be targeted by IRA bombers, and it would also fall foul of the Good Friday peace agreement.

The tracking of goods, which was another part of the original Max Fac solution to keep goods flowing freely over the border, has also been abandoned because of the Northern Irish’s deep rooted concerns about civil liberties.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6423932/d ... plans-dup/

[Lagamorph]

They're talking joint EU and UK status for Northern Ireland as well as the 10 mile border buffer zone:

DAVID Davis is devising a new Brexit plan to break a talks deadlock by giving Northern Ireland joint EU and UK status as well as a border buffer zone.

Under the radical blueprint, the province would operate a double hatted regime of European and British regulations at the same time, so it can trade freely with both.

The Brexit Secretary is also drawing up a 10 mile-wide buffer zone the length of Northern Ireland’s 310 mile border with Ireland.

Dubbed a ‘special economic zone’, it will be for local traders such as dairy farmers – who make up 90 per cent of the cross border traffic - and share the same trade rules as south of the border.

The two plans will together eradicate the need for any border check points, which is a major EU demand.

But both run the risk of infuriating the DUP, whose 10 MPs are propping up Theresa May’s minority government.

Technology based solution abandoned:

Mr Davis ordered it after he was persuaded to abandon a technology based solution to keep the Irish border open.

Senior Ulster cops warned him that any border infrastructure, even if it’s just camera towers or swipe points, would be targeted by IRA bombers, and it would also fall foul of the Good Friday peace agreement.

The tracking of goods, which was another part of the original Max Fac solution to keep goods flowing freely over the border, has also been abandoned because of the Northern Irish’s deep rooted concerns about civil liberties.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6423932/d ... plans-dup/

Cue Scotland and London wanting the same thing whilst the DUP threaten to 'veto' the idea for Northern Ireland.

[Squinty]

Good luck getting that one to fly with the DUP. I can't imagine that there won't be problems with this buffer zone. It's hardly taking back control of our borders as well.

Edit - Lagamorph makes an excellent point.

[Moggy]

Cue Scotland and London wanting the same thing

And they are right to want it as well.

[Squinty]

You gotta love that Ulster police persuaded him it wouldn't work. Could have found that out sooner had he actually engaged with us.

[Garth]

Would a buffer zone mean there'd be two border checks instead of one Brexit border if you're travelling between the North and South (going into and out of the buffer zone)? The issue of borders in Ireland isn't just about trade.

[Errkal]

Would a buffer zone mean there'd be two border checks instead of one Brexit border if you're travelling between the North and South (going into and out of the buffer zone)? The issue of borders in Ireland isn't just about trade.

They said you can't have A border, there was nothing said about plural!

[Garth]

It would cut through Arlene Foster's constituency too

[Moggy]

Would a buffer zone mean there'd be two border checks instead of one Brexit border if you're travelling between the North and South (going into and out of the buffer zone)? The issue of borders in Ireland isn't just about trade.

Would the people living in the buffer zone be part of a no-mans land where the only law is that they would have to compete in gladiatorial games to win food for their families?

Because if so, then I am paying for the pay-per-view.

[Garth]

Rough mapping of the buffer zone stolen from Twitter: