Brexit Thread 2

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Karl » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:15 am

It's interesting that the Tories keep saying "A second referendum would destroy trust in politicians!" because even many Leave voters seem to be disgusted at how the government has handled the last couple of years. I would say the disconnect between the promised fantasy Brexit process and the crappy reality is what has really disillusioned people with Parliament.

Most of us knew from the start it'd be a cluster and we're still disappointed. Imagine how you'd feel if you voted Leave because you were told it would help build hospitals and schools.

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by Moggy » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:25 am

Karl wrote:It's interesting that the Tories keep saying "A second referendum would destroy trust in politicians!" because even many Leave voters seem to be disgusted at how the government has handled the last couple of years. I would say the disconnect between the promised fantasy Brexit process and the crappy reality is what has really disillusioned people with Parliament.


It shows just how powerful the doublethink of “voting is anti-democratic” from the right wing has become and they have been doing it for the best part of a decade now. How often do we hear how Ireland were “forced” to keep voting until they accepted the Lisbon treaty? That narrative has been bubbling away for a long time now, “The EU will make you keep voting until you agree with them!”. And now that comes to fruition as Britain desperately needs another referendum, but they know they can’t do it without looking like they are forcing people to keep voting.

All the gooseberry fool we are going through has been planned for decades, from bendy bananas to Ireland being forced into a never ending series of referendums. It’s all bullshit, but the plan worked well enough to get us to the stage where Rees-Mogg can make a fortune from his emerging markets portfolio.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Blue Eyes » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:12 am

Body bags! Amid this whole clusterfuck that's probably the most sensible thing to arrange for so far. People will die because of this after all.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Jenuall » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:37 am

Any remaining glimmers of hope I had for an outcome which might provide a mildly reduced version of the Brexit gooseberry fool sandwich have pretty much been snuffed out over the last week or so. We're absolutely strawberry floated and nobody with the power or influence to do anything about seems to be demonstrating any common sense or duty of care to the country.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Photek » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:42 am

Moggy wrote:All the gooseberry fool we are going through has been planned for decades, from bendy bananas to Ireland being forced into a never ending series of referendums. It’s all bullshit, but the plan worked well enough to get us to the stage where Rees-Mogg can make a fortune from his emerging markets portfolio.

Yeah this Myth about Ireland being forced to re-vote constantly is pure bollocks, we voted no to the Lisbon treaty, then had changes put into it to do with our tax and sovereignty and it was put to a second referendum, that happened once, ever, and the changes were retrospectively given to every nation that had passed it before us and after.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Photek » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:44 am

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Hyperion wrote:She wants another two weeks. What the actual strawberry float? Not like there's a deadline hurtling towards us or anything.
Two weeks to strawberry float around, the EU aren't budging and you're willing to negotiate as long as you don't have to negotiate.
What an absolute incompetent shitwitch she is

The banana split is literally just running down the clock until there isn't time left for anything but her deal. I despise politicians.

She's playing chicken with peoples lively hoods and actual lives on the line. It's maddening.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Moggy » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:48 am

Photek wrote:
Moggy wrote:All the gooseberry fool we are going through has been planned for decades, from bendy bananas to Ireland being forced into a never ending series of referendums. It’s all bullshit, but the plan worked well enough to get us to the stage where Rees-Mogg can make a fortune from his emerging markets portfolio.

Yeah this Myth about Ireland being forced to re-vote constantly is pure bollocks, we voted no to the Lisbon treaty, then had changes put into it to do with our tax and sovereignty and it was put to a second referendum, that happened once, ever, and the changes were retrospectively given to every nation that had passed it before us and after.


That’s absolutely true and the hard Brexit bastards know it, as proved by that Irish journalist/presenter schooling Farage a few weeks ago.

But it doesn’t matter that it is made up claptrap. The lie is already out there, millions of people believe it and so it is job done for the arseholes.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Squinty » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:15 pm

It really is hard to be positive about all of this. She is running down the clock in order to have her deal look like the most appealing option. It's a huge gamble.

Parliament needs to take control.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Moggy » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:01 pm

Squinty wrote:It really is hard to be positive about all of this. She is running down the clock in order to have her deal look like the most appealing option. It's a huge gamble.

Parliament needs to take control.


The only thing that makes any sense is that she is deliberately running down the clock. She’s banking on Parliament not going for a No Deal and so thinks she can win if it literally comes down to her deal or no deal.

And she is probably right. Parliament will be forced into going along with her shitty horrible deal just because the alternative is worse. All while pretending that the very best option of all is sat right there. But we couldn’t do that, the strawberry floating gammon bastards that bought second homes in Spain wouldn’t want to risk another referendum.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Ad7 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:11 pm

I'd love to know what the hard-core WE WON GET OVER IT crowd actually think is going to happen on the day the country leaves the EU.

I mean, they've only.voted leave for some personal gain I'd imagine, do they think the skys are going to erupt with spitfires dropping £50 notes while the smelly brown people who've got a better house than them get marched to.dover and stuck on a ferry blaring rule Britannia while they pelt them with bendy bananas?

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Harry Ola » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:14 pm

I think the deliberate running down the clock has to be to try and force some concessions from Europe. None of it makes any sense otherwise (unless it is purely about holding onto power for a few more weeks). But it's hardly a masterstroke. I suspect the EU might actually be able to see through this plan.

Parliament still have a third option (other that no deal vs May) and it's surely a more likely outcome still. Parliament can extend article 50 and work on softer Brexit once May's deal is dead in the water.

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by Moggy » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:16 pm

Harry Ola wrote:I think the deliberate running down the clock has to be to try and force some concessions from Europe. None of it makes any sense otherwise (unless it is purely about holding onto power for a few more weeks). But it's hardly a masterstroke. I suspect the EU might actually be able to see through this plan.

Parliament still have a third option (other that no deal vs May) and it's surely a more likely outcome still. Parliament can extend article 50 and work on softer Brexit once May's deal is dead in the water.


She knows Europe will not concede, this is purely about holding onto power and getting her own way.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Moggy » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:18 pm

Ad7 wrote:I'd love to know what the hard-core WE WON GET OVER IT crowd actually think is going to happen on the day the country leaves the EU.

I mean, they've only.voted leave for some personal gain I'd imagine, do they think the skys are going to erupt with spitfires dropping £50 notes while the smelly brown people who've got a better house than them get marched to.dover and stuck on a ferry blaring rule Britannia while they pelt them with bendy bananas?


Theresa May was talking about organising a Brexit Festival once we leave, so I guess we have that to look forward to. Especially as Chris Grayling is simultaneously booking Blink 182 and organising the luxury accommodation villas that we were promised.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Preezy » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:23 pm

The "Britain is on Fyre" festival, got a nice ring to it.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Moggy » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:25 pm


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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Preezy » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:27 pm

You could say that the lady is not for turning.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by NickSCFC » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:30 pm

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Moggy » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:32 pm

Preezy wrote:You could say that the lady is not for turning.


The lady is an utter buffoon.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by satriales » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:55 pm

Ian Blackford says it as it is and calls May a liar during her pathetic response to his question.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Hexx » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:59 pm

Harry Ola wrote:I think the deliberate running down the clock has to be to try and force some concessions from Europe. None of it makes any sense otherwise (unless it is purely about holding onto power for a few more weeks). But it's hardly a masterstroke. I suspect the EU might actually be able to see through this plan.


I think it's running down the clock for a "My Deal or No Deal" scenario. May's egotistical enough to try and force them to accept her deal


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