Brexit Thread 2

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How would you vote if we had to vote again?

Leave
12
7%
Remain
155
93%
 
Total votes: 167
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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Moggy » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:33 pm

Lagamorph wrote:
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Lagamorph wrote:MPs have voted heavily in favour of delaying Brexit until June 30th if May's deal is rejected a 3rd time.


Wait what? Is she putting it up again now?


Aye. 20th March apparently. Day before the EU summit.


Is it likely to be rejected again?


It's hard to believe that she could gain more than a 150 supportive votes in one week, but everything is possible.


There’s a good chance she won’t be allowed to put her deal before Parliament again. Doing it would be against Parliamentary convention, but it’s up to the Speaker whether it’s allowed.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 21716.html

I could see it being allowed due to it being on the proviso that, if it's rejected this time, there's actually a pre-determined course of action to be taken so, technically, it's a vote for something different.


It’d be exactly the same unless she gets something out of the EU (spoiler: she won’t).

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Lagamorph » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:47 pm

Moggy wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Squinty wrote:
NickSCFC wrote:
Squinty wrote:
Tafdolphin wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:MPs have voted heavily in favour of delaying Brexit until June 30th if May's deal is rejected a 3rd time.


Wait what? Is she putting it up again now?


Aye. 20th March apparently. Day before the EU summit.


Is it likely to be rejected again?


It's hard to believe that she could gain more than a 150 supportive votes in one week, but everything is possible.


There’s a good chance she won’t be allowed to put her deal before Parliament again. Doing it would be against Parliamentary convention, but it’s up to the Speaker whether it’s allowed.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 21716.html

I could see it being allowed due to it being on the proviso that, if it's rejected this time, there's actually a pre-determined course of action to be taken so, technically, it's a vote for something different.


It’d be exactly the same unless she gets something out of the EU (spoiler: she won’t).

Oh absolutely, but there's probably enough of an argument to say that, with tonight's amendments, the house has approved of having another vote on the WA.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Xeno » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:08 pm

Are these people high on their own strawberry floating supply?

strawberry floating buch of entitled banana splits.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by KK » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:10 pm

All very animated on Question Time from London. Like an episode of Jerry Springer amongst the audience.

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by Corazon de Leon » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:10 pm

The two angry bespectacled men arguing has been great.

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by Return_of_the_STAR » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:13 pm

Corazon de Leon wrote:The two angry bespectacled men arguing has been great.


I thought one of them was going to hit the other at one point :lol:

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by KK » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:14 pm

Had I been drunk I would have defo thought that was Rolf Harris.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by KK » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:23 pm

‘...I was at Glastonbury in a tent.’

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by Yubel » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:24 pm

I only know the bare minimum regarding Brexit: that if we leave, we save money, answer to our own laws and are made to fill in more paper work importing/exporting goods.
If we stay then... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But despite how very little attention Iv'e paid to the situation as it's evolved, I get the sense that our government - and by extension the UK as a whole - is easily pushed around and are in no position to be making demands. Quite frankly, it's embarrassing.

Qikz wrote:Why don't we just strawberry floating cancel this now before it's too late.

Just admit it's not possible and go back to normal.


Exactly this. Far as I can tell, we got too big for our boots and the PM needs to step away, tail between her legs, for the greater good.

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by Lex-Man » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:22 am

Yubel wrote:I only know the bare minimum regarding Brexit: that if we leave, we save money, answer to our own laws and are made to fill in more paper work importing/exporting goods.
If we stay then... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But despite how very little attention Iv'e paid to the situation as it's evolved, I get the sense that our government - and by extension the UK as a whole - is easily pushed around and are in no position to be making demands. Quite frankly, it's embarrassing.

Qikz wrote:Why don't we just strawberry floating cancel this now before it's too late.

Just admit it's not possible and go back to normal.


Exactly this. Far as I can tell, we got too big for our boots and the PM needs to step away, tail between her legs, for the greater good.


The problem is we would lose our ability to trade with other countries as easily and lose huge amounts of cash with companies going under and trade deals not being made.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Skarjo » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:36 am

yeA but soVrinty THO

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Moggy » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:41 am

Yubel wrote:I only know the bare minimum regarding Brexit: that if we leave, we save money, answer to our own laws and are made to fill in more paper work importing/exporting goods.
If we stay then... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


That’s not true. Leave supporters like Boris Johnson lied that we would save money, but reality is that we would lose money. A lot of money.

We already make our own laws. For laws that come from Europe, we have an equal say in whether those laws are passed. And we have very rarely disagreed with them.

More paperwork is guaranteed, but it’s more than that. Leaving with no deal will mean tariffs on goods going in and out of the country. Which means everything gets more expensive.

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by Errkal » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:53 am

Moggy wrote:
Yubel wrote:I only know the bare minimum regarding Brexit: that if we leave, we save money, answer to our own laws and are made to fill in more paper work importing/exporting goods.
If we stay then... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


That’s not true. Leave supporters like Boris Johnson lied that we would save money, but reality is that we would lose money. A lot of money.

We already make our own laws. For laws that come from Europe, we have an equal say in whether those laws are passed. And we have very rarely disagreed with them.

More paperwork is guaranteed, but it’s more than that. Leaving with no deal will mean tariffs on goods going in and out of the country. Which means everything gets more expensive.


And if we axe tariffs we get flooded with sub quality products that will increase obesity and illness further stretching our underfunded NHS.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Moggy » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:18 am

Errkal wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Yubel wrote:I only know the bare minimum regarding Brexit: that if we leave, we save money, answer to our own laws and are made to fill in more paper work importing/exporting goods.
If we stay then... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


That’s not true. Leave supporters like Boris Johnson lied that we would save money, but reality is that we would lose money. A lot of money.

We already make our own laws. For laws that come from Europe, we have an equal say in whether those laws are passed. And we have very rarely disagreed with them.

More paperwork is guaranteed, but it’s more than that. Leaving with no deal will mean tariffs on goods going in and out of the country. Which means everything gets more expensive.


And if we axe tariffs we get flooded with sub quality products that will increase obesity and illness further stretching our underfunded NHS.


Don’t worry, once we sign a US trade deal we will get the US healthcare companies here and there will be no NHS to treat us for salmonella after we’ve eaten US chlorinated chicken.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Rex Kramer » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:35 am

But what about the buccaneering? Surely we'll be riding the waves, brave and free, sticking up two fingers to the rest of the world? We're Britain goddamnit and we used to rule the world. Winston Churchill would never have stood for this. If it wasn't for us they'd all be speaking German. Ramble. Ramble. Ramble.....

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Moggy » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:46 am

Rex Kramer wrote:But what about the buccaneering? Surely we'll be riding the waves, brave and free, sticking up two fingers to the rest of the world? We're Britain goddamnit and we used to rule the world. Winston Churchill would never have stood for this. If it wasn't for us they'd all be speaking German. Ramble. Ramble. Ramble.....


Winston was half American. I never trusted him.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Lagamorph » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:04 am


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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Harry Ola » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:08 am

I was pretty mad last night when the Benn amendment did not pass. For a moment Parliament had a chance of working towards a soft Brexit. Now we will probably get May's deal.

Pretty galling is that 6 Labour MPs voted against the motion, otherwise it would have passed. Don't suppose the great Jeremy will care.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Tineash » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:42 am

Harry Ola wrote:Pretty galling is that 6 Labour MPs voted against the motion, otherwise it would have passed. Don't suppose the great Jeremy will care.


It's the same avid Brexiteer Labour MPs as always. The party whip was to vote for it, what do you want Corbyn to do? This is dumb as strawberry float.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Gemini73 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:54 am

Good morning.

I'd just like to offer my apologies to anyone who I may have upset yesterday. I'm a tetchy gooseberry fool at the best of times and can get quite defensive (I'm trying to work on that). Walking away from the forum for the rest of the day seemed like the best option until I collected myself.

Believe it or not I'm as upset by all this as you are, more so for the fact that my vote help put us here. I wish I could go back and change that decision, I really do, but I can't. All I can do now is move forward and make the right decision looking ahead. Whatever that may be.

Cheers.


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