Brexit Thread 3 - TBD

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GRpredicts: Will Brexit be delayed again?

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - Limbo of the Lost
by Garth » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:05 pm


The Scottish National Party and Lib Dems have joined forces to attempt to force a general election in early December, but on a different timetable from that wanted by Boris Johnson and without any further push to see Johnson's Brexit deal approved by MPs.

The Westminster leaders of the two parties, Ian Blackford and Jo Swinson, have adopted a twin track approach.

They have written to the President of the European Union, Donald Tusk, asking for a Brexit delay to 31 January, in line with the terms of the Benn Act, with no provision for an earlier withdrawal from the EU.

To provide confidence that this delay will lead to a resolution of the crisis, they are promising to push for a general election within that timetable (see below for the letter).

The second part of the strategy is that the Lib Dems will on Monday put down a bill to amend the Fixed Term Parliament Act, which - if it passes - would see a general election on Monday 9 December.

If that initiative flops, the SNP will table a vote of no confidence in Johnson under the Fixed Term Parliament Act on Tuesday, with a view to compressing the 14-day schedule before the consequential second vote to just one or two days.

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Blackford believes that it will become clear within hours of a successful vote of no confidence in Johnson that there is no way to establish an alternative government and that therefore the vote to dissolve Parliament can take place rapidly.

If the SNP initiative were to succeed, that would lead to Parliament being dissolved this week and an election on 5 December - a week earlier than Johnson wants.

It is unclear whether Jeremy Corbyn and Labour will support the SNP's and Lib Dem's plan to force a general election. Blackford has been having inconclusive talks with the shadow chancellor John McDonnell and Corbyn's chief aide Seumas Milne.

As the letter to Tusk makes clear, the SNP and Lib Dems will not back Johnson's vote to force a general election on 12 December, because they do not wish any resumption of parliamentary scrutiny and debate of his Withdrawal Agreement Bill, the legislative vehicle to implement his version of Brexit.

My understanding is that the Government may back the SNP and Lib Dem attempts to force a general election, because Johnson is desperate to win a popular mandate for his Brexit deal and will not insist that the only route to an election should be his separate motion on Monday.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - Limbo of the Lost
by Return_of_the_STAR » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:39 pm

So what does that all mean? :lol:

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - Limbo of the Lost
by Moggy » Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:31 am



:lol:

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - Limbo of the Lost
by Meep » Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:30 am

Moggy wrote:
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In addition to that it sounds like Arlene wants an election too.

Not sure I understand why Foster would want an election. An increased Boris majority just reduces the negotiating power of the DUP and they'll effectively have to lump his deal.


She probably feels there is a good chance Johnson will not increase his majority.

With Farage back in play, it’s not likely that the Tories will win a big victory, if they win at all.

Unionist suffer from the delusion that voters in England give a gooseberry fool about NI and will be as outraged about the plan as they are.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - Limbo of the Lost
by Errkal » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:37 pm


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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - Limbo of the Lost
by Dual » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:41 pm

@__@

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - Limbo of the Lost
by Lagamorph » Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:02 pm

What do we want? We don't know!
When do we want it? Now! No later!

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - Limbo of the Lost
by Lex-Man » Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:03 pm

That poll is a good demonstration of how language can shape people's answers.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - Limbo of the Lost
by Squinty » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:03 pm

This EU extension thing is becoming really worrying.

Also feel like this is last dying breath for remain. It seems we are strawberry floated no matter what happens.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - Limbo of the Lost
by Karl_ » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:55 pm

Squinty wrote:This EU extension thing is becoming really worrying.

Also feel like this is last dying breath for remain. It seems we are strawberry floated no matter what happens.


It seems like an election is the only way forward now. The last time the Tories were projected to clean up at the beginning, and actually they reduced their number of seats. It could happen again, it might shift the arithmetic in favour of a second referendum.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - Limbo of the Lost
by Lex-Man » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:59 pm

Karl_ wrote:
Squinty wrote:This EU extension thing is becoming really worrying.

Also feel like this is last dying breath for remain. It seems we are strawberry floated no matter what happens.


It seems like an election is the only way forward now. The last time the Tories were projected to clean up at the beginning, and actually they reduced their number of seats. It could happen again, it might shift the arithmetic in favour of a second referendum.


There should be one as nobody has control of parliament. I'm worried what'll happen when all's said and done.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - Limbo of the Lost
by Oblomov Boblomov » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:03 pm

Lex-Man wrote:
Karl_ wrote:
Squinty wrote:This EU extension thing is becoming really worrying.

Also feel like this is last dying breath for remain. It seems we are strawberry floated no matter what happens.


It seems like an election is the only way forward now. The last time the Tories were projected to clean up at the beginning, and actually they reduced their number of seats. It could happen again, it might shift the arithmetic in favour of a second referendum.


There should be one as nobody has control of parliament. I'm worried what'll happen when all's said and done.

1. Labour campaigns on second referendum manifesto
2. Labour/Lib Dem/SNP/Green collaborative tactical standings
3. Parliamentary majority for second referendum
4. Glorious victory for Remain

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Get the champagne on ice!

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by Lex-Man » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:43 pm

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:
Lex-Man wrote:
Karl_ wrote:
Squinty wrote:This EU extension thing is becoming really worrying.

Also feel like this is last dying breath for remain. It seems we are strawberry floated no matter what happens.


It seems like an election is the only way forward now. The last time the Tories were projected to clean up at the beginning, and actually they reduced their number of seats. It could happen again, it might shift the arithmetic in favour of a second referendum.


There should be one as nobody has control of parliament. I'm worried what'll happen when all's said and done.

1. Labour campaigns on second referendum manifesto
2. Labour/Lib Dem/SNP/Green collaborative tactical standings
3. Parliamentary majority for second referendum
4. Glorious victory for Remain

:datass:

Get the champagne on ice!


I always keep my champagne on ice.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - Limbo of the Lost
by Garth » Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:22 am


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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - Limbo of the Lost
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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - Limbo of the Lost
by KK » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:34 am

Deadline Extension granted until January 31st.

The EU has agreed to extend Brexit until 31 January 2020, according to a tweet from the European Council president.

Donald Tusk said the bloc would allow for a so-called "flextension" - meaning the UK could leave before the deadline if a deal was approved by Parliament.

It comes as MPs prepare to vote on proposals by Boris Johnson for an early general election on 12 December.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50205603

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - Limbo of the Lost
by Drumstick » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:37 am

Another win for proven winner Boris Johnson.

One man should not have this much power in this game. Luckily I'm not an ordinary man.
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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - Limbo of the Lost
by KK » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:40 am

Because nothing says Christmas like a general election. :toot:

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - Limbo of the Lost
by Moggy » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:40 am

That’s good news, I’m glad Macron didn’t get his way.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - Limbo of the Lost
by Victor Mildew » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:55 am

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