Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Jenuall » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:08 pm

Tomous wrote:
Jenuall wrote:A society with less racism is better though. "don't be racist" isn't really a statement that needs a justification :lol:



The people that are being told not to be racist believe racism is justified though

And therefore no viewpoint or messaging indicating the positives that a non racist world brings will convert them

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by DML » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:08 pm

Tomous wrote:
Jenuall wrote:A society with less racism is better though. "don't be racist" isn't really a statement that needs a justification :lol:



The people that are being told not to be racist believe racism is justified though


They don't think its racism, they think its 'immigration policy' or whatever BS they believe in.

But the point is...they believe it. And they all have a vote. You either change minds or you move towards them. Telling people off won't win votes. Showing them the damage I think is far more effective.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Lex-Man » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:10 pm

Hexx wrote:I actually feel sick listening to Johnson now.

I strawberry floating hate this shitehole of a country


If you want to feel worse:


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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Cuttooth » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:11 pm

DML wrote:
Tomous wrote:
Jenuall wrote:A society with less racism is better though. "don't be racist" isn't really a statement that needs a justification :lol:



The people that are being told not to be racist believe racism is justified though


They don't think its racism, they think its 'immigration policy' or whatever BS they believe in.

But the point is...they believe it. And they all have a vote. You either change minds or you move towards them. Telling people off won't win votes. Showing them the damage I think is far more effective.

The damage is the point of the position they hold though. :?

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Hexx » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:12 pm

Lex-Man wrote:
Hexx wrote:I actually feel sick listening to Johnson now.

I strawberry floating hate this shitehole of a country


If you want to feel worse:



strawberry float you :(

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Jenuall » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:12 pm

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Hexx » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:17 pm

Milliband absolutely demolishing Johnson there

It won’t matter a bit but watching the useless fat bag of shite squirm as he’s roasted and called out as nice at least

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Lex-Man » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:29 pm

Hexx wrote:
Lex-Man wrote:
Hexx wrote:I actually feel sick listening to Johnson now.

I strawberry floating hate this shitehole of a country


If you want to feel worse:



strawberry float you :(


I deserved that.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Moggy » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:31 pm

Can't face watching it. :dread:

The right wing have it easy in this country in a number of ways. The media and big business being one. Another being that the Tories have no other serious right wing party competing for votes.

But they also have the massive advantage that right wing policies are just so much easier.

Things going badly? Blame foreigners and/or immigrants!

People feeling poor? Blame benefit scrounges!

The left promise good things? Tell everyone tax will rise!

It's a piece of piss. It's all easily understood, easily digestible and easily targeted at existing prejudices that people hold.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Karl_ » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:33 pm

DML wrote:
Karl_ wrote:Sure, OK - there's optics and rhetoric and the psychology of how to change minds and all that. But at some point the left is going to have to make points like "don't be racist".

May I suggest that moment is when they are IN power?

What would that look like, practically speaking?

You keep saying "don't tell people off!" and I don't understand what you mean. Are you talking about a particular interaction you had, like, on Twitter or on here?

Amongst other things the left represents the part of the political spectrum which is against racism, misogyny, homophobia and so on. How does the left express that in a purely "positive" way? What do you actually mean?

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Hexx » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:41 pm

He’s done a runner from the chamber

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Cuttooth » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:44 pm

Hexx wrote:He’s done a runner from the chamber

Amazing. :lol:

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Moggy » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:55 pm



Ed :wub:

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Qikz » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:57 pm

Moggy wrote:

Ed :wub:


strawberry floating hell Boris looked like a child after being told off. :lol:

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Moggy » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:58 pm

Qikz wrote:
Moggy wrote:

Ed :wub:


strawberry floating hell Boris looked like a strawberry floating child. :lol: :lol:


Please don't insult children.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Photek » Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:40 am


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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Return_of_the_STAR » Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:25 am

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8732603/HENRY-DEEDES-Ed-Miliband-debates-way-goes-bacon-buttie.html#comments

So a DM article on yesterday’s debate has backfired. They’ve attempted to rip into Miliband, referencing the bacon buttie a million times but the comments section is full of people criticising Boris and supporting Ed. Is the tide turning?

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Cuttooth » Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:35 am

No. You get the odd comment section from time to time that goes against what you'd expect of Mail readers but on the whole everything remains as it was.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Moggy » Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:37 am

Return_of_the_STAR wrote: Is the tide turning?


No.

And it's all going to get much worse.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Lex-Man » Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:16 am

Photek wrote:


It worked the EU are cowed and ready to agree to all our demands. :fp: :fp: :fp:

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