Brexit Thread 3 - Project Reality

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Moggy » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:30 pm

Photek wrote:Im confused again... are leavers now regretting things or not? and if they are, are enough of them regretful that a Theoretical Brexit vote now would see remain dominate?


A Brexit vote would have gone Remain for the last couple of years.

Some Leavers are regretful, most are just quiet about it now. The more vocal ones are saying it's still a good idea but Johnson has strawberry floated it up.

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by Lex-Man » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:31 pm

Photek wrote:Im confused again... are leavers now regretting things or not? and if they are, are enough of them regretful that a Theoretical Brexit vote now would see remain dominate?


The government is very pro Brexit and will be in power for another 4-5 years so there's not a lot the public can do, even if it is unpopular with the public.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by That » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:35 pm

@Photek: Just to put some numbers to it, there has been consistent support in opinion polls for a a second referendum since mid-2018. The opinion polls show Remain winning that hypothetical second vote since mid-2017.

It's not really about what the public want, it's about what the Tories want.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Curls » Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:13 pm

The tories want to strawberry float us all decent folk right in the botty.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Moggy » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:24 am

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strawberry float me. :fp:

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by Trelliz » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:40 am

Ah, so THIS is what the leave campaign has "won". I'm sure it was worth it.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Moggy » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:52 am

"In the fine print, unnoticed by many"

Yeah, you're damn right Iain, a lot of people seem to have signed up for this without reading the fine print.

Gaslighting banana splits.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Drumstick » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:57 am

Ah, so it's the EU's fault that Britain's representatives didn't actually read the Withdrawal Agreement because they were too busy celebrating their blue passport sponsored victory.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Moggy » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:10 am

Drumstick wrote:Ah, so it's the EU's fault that Britain's representatives didn't actually read the Withdrawal Agreement because they were too busy celebrating their blue passport sponsored victory.


It's an amazing confession of incompetence that he's trying to dress up as the trickster EU conning us. Except the government were (repeatedly!) warned how shitty Johnson's deal was, they just refused to listen as "Get Brexit Done" was more important than actually looking at the pros and cons of Brexit itself.

And the Leave banana splits are still out there telling everyone that "Nigel would fix this!" and "right, let's go WTO then!".

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Squinty » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:55 am

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by captain red dog » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:42 am

So it's a bad deal that IDS didn't actually read before he voted to support it. :fp:

I won't accept Tories trying to lay the blame on the EU's door, they have every right to get the best deal for them and the strawberry floating Tories agreed to it. So this is entirely on them, and they should be explaining to the people why and how they strawberry floated up so badly.

There really needs to be some serious questions asked of him, but I suspect he will be ducking media interviews for a while.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Tomous » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:43 am

Buried in the fine print, unnoticed by many


All you can do is laugh really :slol:

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Tomous » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:44 am

captain red dog wrote:So it's a bad deal that IDS didn't actually read before he voted to support it. :fp:

I won't accept Tories trying to lay the blame on the EU's door, they have every right to get the best deal for them and the strawberry floating Tories agreed to it. So this is entirely on them, and they should be explaining to the people why and how they strawberry floated up so badly.

There really needs to be some serious questions asked of him, but I suspect he will be ducking media interviews for a while.



Of course it is entirely the Tories fault, but them putting the blame on the EU is going to be an easy sell for them unfortunately, much of the population will accept that

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by captain red dog » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:07 am

Well, the opposition need to remind people that this is Boris Johnson's "oven ready" deal that he won an election on.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by DML » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:40 am

'Why DID you vote to agree with the withdrawal agreememt you didnt agree with?'

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Moggy » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:42 am

DML wrote:'Why DID you vote to agree with the withdrawal agreememt you didnt agree with?'


TO GET BREXIT DONE!

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Photek » Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:50 pm

Karl_ wrote:@Photek: Just to put some numbers to it, there has been consistent support in opinion polls for a a second referendum since mid-2018. The opinion polls show Remain winning that hypothetical second vote since mid-2017.

It's not really about what the public want, it's about what the Tories want.

That's good but also horrible news. Good that majority want to remain and horrible that it seems nothing can be done to stop it.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Tomous » Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:59 pm

Photek wrote:
Karl_ wrote:@Photek: Just to put some numbers to it, there has been consistent support in opinion polls for a a second referendum since mid-2018. The opinion polls show Remain winning that hypothetical second vote since mid-2017.

It's not really about what the public want, it's about what the Tories want.

That's good but also horrible news. Good that majority want to remain and horrible that it seems nothing can be done to stop it.



It's an absolute tragedy. A small group of rich people have tricked a lot of poor people into believing the EU are the cause of all their problems, just so they can make themselves a bit richer and in the process, destroy the country and make everyone else's life a bit worse.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by Moggy » Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:25 pm

Photek wrote:
Karl_ wrote:@Photek: Just to put some numbers to it, there has been consistent support in opinion polls for a a second referendum since mid-2018. The opinion polls show Remain winning that hypothetical second vote since mid-2017.

It's not really about what the public want, it's about what the Tories want.

That's good but also horrible news. Good that majority want to remain and horrible that it seems nothing can be done to stop it.


Democracy in the UK means a party that gets 43% of the vote ends up with absolute control and is able to do something that the majority of the country doesn't want.

Now that's freedom. :datass:

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - The Dream is Dead, RIP Remain
by That » Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:35 pm

Moggy wrote:Democracy in the UK means a party that gets 43% of the vote ends up with absolute control and is able to do something that the majority of the country doesn't want.



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