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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3
by Tineash » Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:20 pm

yeah, thanks Gordon Brown for giving him a lifetime say in all our laws

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3
by Lex-Man » Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:34 pm

Moggy wrote:

twitter.com/ninadschick/status/1156508816357363712



Remember how the Leavers loved Theresa May at first? She was the new Iron Lady!

Then they turned on her and decided she was a secret Remainer.

That above is the start of the same process with Johnson and his team. He’ll be a Leaver, just not a hard enough Leaver....


This sort of supports what I said yesterday. If stuff goes badly the BP will blame the Tories for not being hard enough on the EU and some people will agree.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3
by Moggy » Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:39 pm

Lex-Man wrote:
Moggy wrote:

twitter.com/ninadschick/status/1156508816357363712



Remember how the Leavers loved Theresa May at first? She was the new Iron Lady!

Then they turned on her and decided she was a secret Remainer.

That above is the start of the same process with Johnson and his team. He’ll be a Leaver, just not a hard enough Leaver....


This sort of supports what I said yesterday. If stuff goes badly the BP will blame the Tories for not being hard enough on the EU and some people will agree.


If Johnson sticks to a hardish line then the Tories will probably only be fourth on their list.

Who to blame

Remainers for talking down the country

The EU for bullying us

Ireland for being super mean

The Tories for being secret Remainers/not pure enough Leavers

Who not to blame

Leavers

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by Lex-Man » Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:55 pm

Moggy wrote:
Lex-Man wrote:
Moggy wrote:

twitter.com/ninadschick/status/1156508816357363712



Remember how the Leavers loved Theresa May at first? She was the new Iron Lady!

Then they turned on her and decided she was a secret Remainer.

That above is the start of the same process with Johnson and his team. He’ll be a Leaver, just not a hard enough Leaver....


This sort of supports what I said yesterday. If stuff goes badly the BP will blame the Tories for not being hard enough on the EU and some people will agree.


If Johnson sticks to a hardish line then the Tories will probably only be fourth on their list.

Who to blame

Remainers for talking down the country

The EU for bullying us

Ireland for being super mean

The Tories for being secret Remainers/not pure enough Leavers

Who not to blame

Leavers


In an election they'll probably bump the Tories up the list as that's where they stand the best chance of winning.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3
by Moggy » Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:11 pm

Lex-Man wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Lex-Man wrote:
Moggy wrote:

twitter.com/ninadschick/status/1156508816357363712



Remember how the Leavers loved Theresa May at first? She was the new Iron Lady!

Then they turned on her and decided she was a secret Remainer.

That above is the start of the same process with Johnson and his team. He’ll be a Leaver, just not a hard enough Leaver....


This sort of supports what I said yesterday. If stuff goes badly the BP will blame the Tories for not being hard enough on the EU and some people will agree.


If Johnson sticks to a hardish line then the Tories will probably only be fourth on their list.

Who to blame

Remainers for talking down the country

The EU for bullying us

Ireland for being super mean

The Tories for being secret Remainers/not pure enough Leavers

Who not to blame

Leavers


In an election they'll probably bump the Tories up the list as that's where they stand the best chance of winning.


They are never going to hate the Tories as much as they hate Remainers, the EU and Irish people. :lol:

If Johnson sticks to a hard Brexit line then they will probably try and work out a pact with him. Hopefully Labour, the Lib Dems and Greens do the same – although I doubt the Libs and Greens want anything to do with Corbyn, they might be tempted if he unequivocally came out for Remain (yeah right :lol: ) .

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3
by Tineash » Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:16 pm

The LDs aren't unequivocally for Remain, Jo Swinson just promised to implement Brexit if it won a 2nd referendum.

Nobody who isn't advocating the outright revocation of article 50 and cancellation of Brexit can be said to be unequivocally for Remain.

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by Moggy » Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:21 pm

Tineash wrote:The LDs aren't unequivocally for Remain, Jo Swinson just promised to implement Brexit if it won a 2nd referendum.

Nobody who isn't advocating the outright revocation of article 50 and cancellation of Brexit can be said to be unequivocally for Remain.


I genuinely can't tell if you are being incredibly anal or whether you have misunderstood my post.

The Lib Dems's/Greens would want reassurance that Corbyn would impletment a referendum with Remain on the ballot and campaign for Remain. Unequivocally.

No serious political party is going to campaign to just revoke Article 50. It has to go to another referendum if it is to be stopped. Supporting another referendum does not mean somebody is not unequivocally on the Remain side. But in political reality it cannot be stopped without going back to the vote.

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by Lex-Man » Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:32 pm

Moggy wrote:
Lex-Man wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Lex-Man wrote:
Moggy wrote:

twitter.com/ninadschick/status/1156508816357363712



Remember how the Leavers loved Theresa May at first? She was the new Iron Lady!

Then they turned on her and decided she was a secret Remainer.

That above is the start of the same process with Johnson and his team. He’ll be a Leaver, just not a hard enough Leaver....


This sort of supports what I said yesterday. If stuff goes badly the BP will blame the Tories for not being hard enough on the EU and some people will agree.


If Johnson sticks to a hardish line then the Tories will probably only be fourth on their list.

Who to blame

Remainers for talking down the country

The EU for bullying us

Ireland for being super mean

The Tories for being secret Remainers/not pure enough Leavers

Who not to blame

Leavers


In an election they'll probably bump the Tories up the list as that's where they stand the best chance of winning.


They are never going to hate the Tories as much as they hate Remainers, the EU and Irish people. :lol:

If Johnson sticks to a hard Brexit line then they will probably try and work out a pact with him. Hopefully Labour, the Lib Dems and Greens do the same – although I doubt the Libs and Greens want anything to do with Corbyn, they might be tempted if he unequivocally came out for Remain (yeah right :lol: ) .


You can't really blame them about the Irish. Bloody Irish and their strange love of Nono from Ulysses 31. Yumi was the best character, you hear me.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3
by Moggy » Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:49 pm

Lex-Man wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Lex-Man wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Lex-Man wrote:
Moggy wrote:

twitter.com/ninadschick/status/1156508816357363712



Remember how the Leavers loved Theresa May at first? She was the new Iron Lady!

Then they turned on her and decided she was a secret Remainer.

That above is the start of the same process with Johnson and his team. He’ll be a Leaver, just not a hard enough Leaver....


This sort of supports what I said yesterday. If stuff goes badly the BP will blame the Tories for not being hard enough on the EU and some people will agree.


If Johnson sticks to a hardish line then the Tories will probably only be fourth on their list.

Who to blame

Remainers for talking down the country

The EU for bullying us

Ireland for being super mean

The Tories for being secret Remainers/not pure enough Leavers

Who not to blame

Leavers


In an election they'll probably bump the Tories up the list as that's where they stand the best chance of winning.


They are never going to hate the Tories as much as they hate Remainers, the EU and Irish people. :lol:

If Johnson sticks to a hard Brexit line then they will probably try and work out a pact with him. Hopefully Labour, the Lib Dems and Greens do the same – although I doubt the Libs and Greens want anything to do with Corbyn, they might be tempted if he unequivocally came out for Remain (yeah right :lol: ) .


You can't really blame them about the Irish. Bloody Irish and their strange love of Nono from Ulysses 31. Yumi was the best character, you hear me.


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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3
by Squinty » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:03 am

More money put into no deal planning. Project Fear I guess.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3
by Moggy » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:13 am

Squinty wrote:More money put into no deal planning. Project Fear I guess.


£2.1billion. :lol:

I guess it is good news that Theresa May left her magic money tree at Number 10 and didn't take it with her.

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by Lex-Man » Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:01 am

Moggy wrote:
Squinty wrote:More money put into no deal planning. Project Fear I guess.


£2.1billion. :lol:

I guess it is good news that Theresa May left her magic money tree at Number 10 and didn't take it with her.


If May had done that it'd been seen as project fear.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3
by Moggy » Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:30 am

The Leaver from the other forum I view is at it again. A argument developed over the Irish border, and the Leaver accused the Remainer of not really caring about Ireland, it was just a way to stop Brexit. The Remainer said that they had Irish family and did care and pointed out that the DUP would never allow the border to be moved to the Irish sea. The leaver replied:

The backstop isn't the issue, the issue is there is no mechanism to leave the backstop. We could be stuck in the back stop forever.
The DUP need to recognise the unique circumstances that exist on the Island of Ireland and due to them circumstances N.Ireland will need to have different arrangements to the rest of the UK, arrangements are already different.
I apologise if you do have Irish family etc. My comment, whilst aimed at you, was just s general comment about remainers who are trying to use the island of Ireland as a way to stop Brexit.
I have upwards of 100 friends who live in the north of the south, they are not concerned about Brexit at all. The only issues being they fear they would have to get passports to travel to England and acquire permits to drive here.


Over 100 Irish friends!! But you wouldn’t know them, they all go to a different school…. ;)

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by Rex Kramer » Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:35 am

Moggy wrote:The Leaver from the other forum I view is at it again. A argument developed over the Irish border, and the Leaver accused the Remainer of not really caring about Ireland, it was just a way to stop Brexit. The Remainer said that they had Irish family and did care and pointed out that the DUP would never allow the border to be moved to the Irish sea. The leaver replied:

The backstop isn't the issue, the issue is there is no mechanism to leave the backstop. We could be stuck in the back stop forever.
The DUP need to recognise the unique circumstances that exist on the Island of Ireland and due to them circumstances N.Ireland will need to have different arrangements to the rest of the UK, arrangements are already different.
I apologise if you do have Irish family etc. My comment, whilst aimed at you, was just s general comment about remainers who are trying to use the island of Ireland as a way to stop Brexit.
I have upwards of 100 friends who live in the north of the south, they are not concerned about Brexit at all. The only issues being they fear they would have to get passports to travel to England and acquire permits to drive here.


Over 100 Irish friends!! But you wouldn’t know them, they all go to a different school…. ;)

Another forum? How do you find time to work?

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by Moggy » Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:36 am

Rex Kramer wrote:
Moggy wrote:The Leaver from the other forum I view is at it again. A argument developed over the Irish border, and the Leaver accused the Remainer of not really caring about Ireland, it was just a way to stop Brexit. The Remainer said that they had Irish family and did care and pointed out that the DUP would never allow the border to be moved to the Irish sea. The leaver replied:

The backstop isn't the issue, the issue is there is no mechanism to leave the backstop. We could be stuck in the back stop forever.
The DUP need to recognise the unique circumstances that exist on the Island of Ireland and due to them circumstances N.Ireland will need to have different arrangements to the rest of the UK, arrangements are already different.
I apologise if you do have Irish family etc. My comment, whilst aimed at you, was just s general comment about remainers who are trying to use the island of Ireland as a way to stop Brexit.
I have upwards of 100 friends who live in the north of the south, they are not concerned about Brexit at all. The only issues being they fear they would have to get passports to travel to England and acquire permits to drive here.


Over 100 Irish friends!! But you wouldn’t know them, they all go to a different school…. ;)

Another forum? How do you find time to work?


By being efficient. ;)

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by Victor Mildew » Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:38 am

Moggy wrote:The Leaver from the other forum I view is at it again.


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by Lex-Man » Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:56 am

Moggy wrote:
Rex Kramer wrote:
Moggy wrote:The Leaver from the other forum I view is at it again. A argument developed over the Irish border, and the Leaver accused the Remainer of not really caring about Ireland, it was just a way to stop Brexit. The Remainer said that they had Irish family and did care and pointed out that the DUP would never allow the border to be moved to the Irish sea. The leaver replied:

The backstop isn't the issue, the issue is there is no mechanism to leave the backstop. We could be stuck in the back stop forever.
The DUP need to recognise the unique circumstances that exist on the Island of Ireland and due to them circumstances N.Ireland will need to have different arrangements to the rest of the UK, arrangements are already different.
I apologise if you do have Irish family etc. My comment, whilst aimed at you, was just s general comment about remainers who are trying to use the island of Ireland as a way to stop Brexit.
I have upwards of 100 friends who live in the north of the south, they are not concerned about Brexit at all. The only issues being they fear they would have to get passports to travel to England and acquire permits to drive here.


Over 100 Irish friends!! But you wouldn’t know them, they all go to a different school…. ;)

Another forum? How do you find time to work?


By being efficient. ;)


Also having a bullshit job probably helps.

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by Garth » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:17 pm

Moggy wrote:The Leaver from the other forum I view is at it again. A argument developed over the Irish border, and the Leaver accused the Remainer of not really caring about Ireland, it was just a way to stop Brexit. The Remainer said that they had Irish family and did care and pointed out that the DUP would never allow the border to be moved to the Irish sea. The leaver replied:

The backstop isn't the issue, the issue is there is no mechanism to leave the backstop. We could be stuck in the back stop forever.
The DUP need to recognise the unique circumstances that exist on the Island of Ireland and due to them circumstances N.Ireland will need to have different arrangements to the rest of the UK, arrangements are already different.
I apologise if you do have Irish family etc. My comment, whilst aimed at you, was just s general comment about remainers who are trying to use the island of Ireland as a way to stop Brexit.
I have upwards of 100 friends who live in the north of the south, they are not concerned about Brexit at all. The only issues being they fear they would have to get passports to travel to England and acquire permits to drive here.


Over 100 Irish friends!! But you wouldn’t know them, they all go to a different school…. ;)

Lolwut. They haven't a clue.

The EU didn't even want a UK-wide backstop originally anyway, it was the UK's suggestion. The way out of it is to come to a different agreement, for ffs sake.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3
by Moggy » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:20 pm

Lex-Man wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Rex Kramer wrote:
Moggy wrote:The Leaver from the other forum I view is at it again. A argument developed over the Irish border, and the Leaver accused the Remainer of not really caring about Ireland, it was just a way to stop Brexit. The Remainer said that they had Irish family and did care and pointed out that the DUP would never allow the border to be moved to the Irish sea. The leaver replied:

The backstop isn't the issue, the issue is there is no mechanism to leave the backstop. We could be stuck in the back stop forever.
The DUP need to recognise the unique circumstances that exist on the Island of Ireland and due to them circumstances N.Ireland will need to have different arrangements to the rest of the UK, arrangements are already different.
I apologise if you do have Irish family etc. My comment, whilst aimed at you, was just s general comment about remainers who are trying to use the island of Ireland as a way to stop Brexit.
I have upwards of 100 friends who live in the north of the south, they are not concerned about Brexit at all. The only issues being they fear they would have to get passports to travel to England and acquire permits to drive here.


Over 100 Irish friends!! But you wouldn’t know them, they all go to a different school…. ;)

Another forum? How do you find time to work?


By being efficient. ;)


Also having a bullshit job probably helps.


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