Brexit Thread 3 - Project Reality

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by Qikz » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:24 pm

Moggy wrote:It's not pointless just because you enjoy your job and are happy to opt out of the directive. It's there to protect people who are exploited by shitty employers.


Well this is all pointless now anyway as it won't be there soon. We'll all be working 9-9 shifts like in China if the Tory government get to do what they want.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - Project Reality
by Zilnad » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:28 pm

I think I'd rather kill myself than work 12 hour shifts every day. That's no exaggeration either.

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by Moggy » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:31 pm

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Moggy wrote:It's not pointless just because you enjoy your job and are happy to opt out of the directive. It's there to protect people who are exploited by shitty employers.


Well this is all pointless now anyway as it won't be there soon. We'll all be working 9-9 shifts like in China if the Tory government get to do what they want.


Well yeah, we'll all be in the workhouse slaving away for our masters soon enough.

But until then, it's good to moan about it.

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by Benzin » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:07 pm

Zilnad wrote:I think I'd rather kill myself than work 12 hour shifts every day. That's no exaggeration either.


Some of the guys at my work who work on site are doing that atm. I cannot ever see myself wanting to do that ever. Even if they get full overtime pay of about 45 hours some of them.

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by Lagamorph » Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:00 pm

I used to work 12 hour shifts, though it was 4 on 4 off so still averaged out at 37.5 hour weeks over an 8 week period. Did that for about 4 years.

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by Return_of_the_STAR » Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:17 pm

Lagamorph wrote:I used to work 12 hour shifts, though it was 4 on 4 off so still averaged out at 37.5 hour weeks over an 8 week period. Did that for about 4 years.


Indeed this is totally common place.

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by That » Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:28 pm

Maybe this is more for the Mental Health Thread, but "<incoming horror> is so awful I think I should just kill myself so I don't have to live through it" is a thought I've had about all sorts of things. Climate change and the inevitable collapse of society; being a worker in a dystopian far-right hell; not getting a vaccine until 2022. I'm not suicidal but the sheer bleakness of the next couple of decades gets to me sometimes.

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by Moggy » Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:39 pm

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:I used to work 12 hour shifts, though it was 4 on 4 off so still averaged out at 37.5 hour weeks over an 8 week period. Did that for about 4 years.


Indeed this is totally common place.


And?

People working those shifts is one thing. People being forced to work those shifts is something else.

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by Neo Cortex » Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:44 pm

Atm I do 11 hours mon to fri, had to sign that waver thing if I wanted any of that sweet overtime pay. But if I'm honest I'd much rather not do it. At least with this job 11 hours seems like loads, but they wangle their way around it via 90 mins break a day. Will be interesting to see if that changes.

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by Return_of_the_STAR » Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:44 pm

Moggy wrote:
Return_of_the_STAR wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:I used to work 12 hour shifts, though it was 4 on 4 off so still averaged out at 37.5 hour weeks over an 8 week period. Did that for about 4 years.


Indeed this is totally common place.


And?

People working those shifts is one thing. People being forced to work those shifts is something else.


I wasn’t commenting on people being forced to work long hours.

I don’t want these Tory plans to happen.

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by Moggy » Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:30 pm

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by Nibble » Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:53 pm

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by Lex-Man » Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:31 pm

I use to work 16 hours days when I worked in catering. I use to arrange parties and stuff for corporate clients and in the Summer I work insane houses from about late May to the end of August, and then again for a month and a half or so around Christmas and New Year. At the time it seemed worth it because of the crazy amount I was making and I would get paid to do basically nothing in the down season. Being nearly 40 I doubt I could hack those kinds of hours anymore also I think doing them as damaged my knees as I spent so long on my feet.

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by Zilnad » Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:52 pm

Karl_ wrote:Maybe this is more for the Mental Health Thread, but "<incoming horror> is so awful I think I should just kill myself so I don't have to live through it" is a thought I've had about all sorts of things. Climate change and the inevitable collapse of society; being a worker in a dystopian far-right hell; not getting a vaccine until 2022. I'm not suicidal but the sheer bleakness of the next couple of decades gets to me sometimes.


It sounds like we're very much of the same mind in this. I'm not suicidal at the moment but I feel like that is going to be the inevitable conclusion as living conditions gradually decline.

Honestly, 12 hours a day for 5 days a week would be a situation where I wouldn't see the point in existing. I'm already struggling hard enough trying to comprehend commuting to an office again.

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by Return_of_the_STAR » Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:35 pm

Maybe you guys should turn this into Moggys predict 2024 thread :lol:

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by aayl1 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:29 pm

Zilnad wrote:
Karl_ wrote:Maybe this is more for the Mental Health Thread, but "<incoming horror> is so awful I think I should just kill myself so I don't have to live through it" is a thought I've had about all sorts of things. Climate change and the inevitable collapse of society; being a worker in a dystopian far-right hell; not getting a vaccine until 2022. I'm not suicidal but the sheer bleakness of the next couple of decades gets to me sometimes.


It sounds like we're very much of the same mind in this. I'm not suicidal at the moment but I feel like that is going to be the inevitable conclusion as living conditions gradually decline.

Honestly, 12 hours a day for 5 days a week would be a situation where I wouldn't see the point in existing. I'm already struggling hard enough trying to comprehend commuting to an office again.


Hey both, I completely understand how you feel - this past year has been tough on me mentally when projecting forward.

I think something that's really helped me a lot and not doom-extrapolate has been my meditation routine. I know in the face of all this shite hearing someone champion just sitting quietly everyday is annoying, but giving your mind space to breathe and exercising your ability to focus can help make things a bit easier to deal with I have found.

I may be slightly biased as in the past couple of days I feel like I've had a bit of a breakthrough with meditation - my constant negative voice and anxiety has noticeably subsided and I'm finding it easier to go with the flow and enjoy life for what it is. Obviously the world is going to gooseberry fool and hope I don't come across as burying my head in the sand but I'm managing to be happier in the moment.

Anyway if anyone is interested hit me up and I can point you in the direction of how to get started/continue to help with the journey etc.

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by Tomous » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:45 am

Fishing lorries from Scotland and Devon have descended on Westminster to stage a protest against the Brexit red tape they say is either delaying or ruining exports of their fresh shellfish to the EU.

Trucks with slogans including “Brexit carnage” and “Incompetent government destroying shellfish industry” parked metres from Downing Street on Monday, but they stopped short of carrying out their threat last week to dump fresh fish close to No 10.

“We strongly feel the system could potentially collapse,” said Gary Hodgson, a director of Venture Seafoods, which exports live and processed crabs and lobsters to the EU.

“Boris Johnson needs to be honest with us, with himself and with the British public about the problems for the industry,” he told Reuters.


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by OrangeRKN » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:46 am

“Boris Johnson needs to be honest with us, with himself and with the British public about the problems for the industry,” he told Reuters.


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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3 - Project Reality
by Moggy » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:47 am

Tomous wrote:
Fishing lorries from Scotland and Devon have descended on Westminster to stage a protest against the Brexit red tape they say is either delaying or ruining exports of their fresh shellfish to the EU.

Trucks with slogans including “Brexit carnage” and “Incompetent government destroying shellfish industry” parked metres from Downing Street on Monday, but they stopped short of carrying out their threat last week to dump fresh fish close to No 10.

“We strongly feel the system could potentially collapse,” said Gary Hodgson, a director of Venture Seafoods, which exports live and processed crabs and lobsters to the EU.

“Boris Johnson needs to be honest with us, with himself and with the British public about the problems for the industry,” he told Reuters.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... SApp_Other


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by Jenuall » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:49 am

Tomous wrote:
“Boris Johnson needs to be honest with us, with himself and with the British public about the problems for the industry,” he told Reuters.

Boris needs to be honest?

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