Brexit Thread 3

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by Ecno » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:17 pm

Cuttooth wrote:

What's the actual plan of action when a solid chunk of the population are just strawberry floating evil?


I see the new joiners to the Young Conservatives are out in force today.

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by Lagamorph » Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:43 am

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How...would this even work?

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It's election campaign lip service is all.

"I tried to defy the law for you voters but the sabotaging remoaners blocked me"

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3
by Squinty » Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:51 am

Amber Rudd just quit.

Edit - Nevermind :lol:

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3
by Moggy » Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:03 am

Amber Rudd is an interesting one, she barely won her seat at the last election, it took 3 or 4 recounts before she won.

She must know she’s got no chance of being re-elected so has nothing to lose.

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by Errkal » Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:08 am

Moggy wrote:Amber Rudd is an interesting one, she barely won her seat at the last election, it took 3 or 4 recounts before she won.

She must know she’s got no chance of being re-elected so has nothing to lose.


Based on vast number of “Amber Rudd shame on you” posters and how our food bank has had to start turn people away as they are running out of food recently I will surprised if she gets back in.

We usually get strawberry floated a bit because we have a whole load of villages and more posh areas in our constituency so that doesn’t help as they tend to vote conservative regardless of everything.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3
by Cuttooth » Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:20 am



Absolutely how it should end up.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3
by Tomous » Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:36 am

Why the shift? Have they realised the EU won’t budge?

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by Photek » Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:52 am

This may be slightly OT but I’ve been reading that the troubles, the good Friday agreement and Northern Ireland’s History isn’t taught in English schools, If this is true, it’s easier to understand why so many haven’t got a clue what they are talking about.

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by Qikz » Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:55 am

Tomous wrote:Why the shift? Have they realised the EU won’t budge?


I think it's because if we have a peoples vote between May's deal which is completely gooseberry fool and Remain remain will win.

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by Cuttooth » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:05 pm

Photek wrote:This may be slightly OT but I’ve been reading that the troubles, the good Friday agreement and Northern Ireland’s History isn’t taught in English schools, I’d this is true, it’s easier to understand why so many haven’t got a clue what they are talking about.

From what I remember, my school curriculum on history would have covered the Romans in Britain and the Tudors primarily in primary school, then a focus on the Peasants' Revolt and a shift to 20th century politics (Bolshevik Revolution, causes and impacts of the First World War, causes of impacts of the Second World War) in secondary school. I assume the latter stages were laid out that way (this was at GCSE level) as a hangover from explaining pre-90s Cold War politics.

I don't think Britain's Empire was even really mentioned and Northern Ireland certainly didn't come up.

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by Squinty » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:09 pm

Photek wrote:This may be slightly OT but I’ve been reading that the troubles, the good Friday agreement and Northern Ireland’s History isn’t taught in English schools, I’d this is true, it’s easier to understand why so many haven’t got a clue what they are talking about.


I was taught it in high school, and my teenager brain thought it was easily the worst thing about the history curriculum. Despite being from NI.

We had the nazis before it and that was strawberry floating interesting (if grim as hell).

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by Cuttooth » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:25 pm

Looking at the actual English curriculum it's reasonably similar to the one I had 15-20 years ago. Ireland and Home Rule is actually used as an example of teaching about the Empire at Key Stage 3, so it might be up to the individual schools on what they actually teach. They may well do what my school did and focus on Britain's involvement in the transatlantic slave trade to cover off that section.

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by Lex-Man » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:34 pm

It's probably worth noting that the national curriculum wasn't introduced until 1988 and teachers are still largely free to teach what they want. I remember studying a lot about revolutionary France and William Morris in history.

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by suzzopher » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:57 pm

Our history at GCSE in 1996 was all about the industrial revolution and local agriculture. I had to go to the library if I wanted to really learn anything.

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by Moggy » Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:35 pm

suzzopher wrote:Our history at GCSE in 1996 was all about the industrial revolution and local agriculture. I had to go to the library if I wanted to really learn anything.


At GCSE we did the Roman Empire, history of medicine, China and a little bit of WW2.

Before that we did the Tudors etc but nothing on Ireland or the British Empire. I guess the shame of it just means we ignore it.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3
by Tomous » Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:03 pm

Qikz wrote:
Tomous wrote:Why the shift? Have they realised the EU won’t budge?


I think it's because if we have a peoples vote between May's deal which is completely gooseberry fool and Remain remain will win.


Corbyn doesn’t want to remain though

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by Qikz » Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:27 pm

Tomous wrote:
Qikz wrote:
Tomous wrote:Why the shift? Have they realised the EU won’t budge?


I think it's because if we have a peoples vote between May's deal which is completely gooseberry fool and Remain remain will win.


Corbyn doesn’t want to remain though


It doesn't matter anymore, the vast majority of the labour party now understand that no deal we can possibly get is ever going to be as good as the one we already have. They'll happily allow us to remain I feel.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3
by Moggy » Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:33 pm

I see on my regular weekend stroll round the docks the Grain Barge has suddenly decided to fly a large EU flag.

No other flags that I could see, just an EU flag.

Strange marketing ploy to deliberately annoy and put off more than half your potential customers.

Maybe they don't want Brexiteer customers?

If so, mission accomplished - our refreshment money went elsewhere and I doubt we were alone.



Leavers are such snowflakes :lol:

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by Rex Kramer » Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:43 pm

So who is the next one-nation Tory to a grow a spine?


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