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by jiggles » Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:29 pm

Tbh, the possibility of Northern Ireland being the one part of the UK still in the customs union sounds like an incredible opportunity for the region. It's a uniquely attractive situation for business and investment here.

But of course, the poison of traditionalism and tribalism in NI politics is blinding our "leaders".

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by Photek » Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:08 pm

I agree but it’s not all NI ‘leaders’ it’s the DUP and them only.

The DUP are trying to destroy a massive opportunity for NI, eejits!

Just to also clarify that I’m no fan of Sinn Fein either, I do think Mary Lou is genuine but I’ve never voted SF and never will. The DUP have been disgraceful over thee years and the contempt in which they treat Irish journalists is embarrassing. Anti abortion and anti gay rights banana splits.

Nigel Dodds is so strawberry floating hateful as a person it’s beyond belief, his interviews on RTE’s morning Ireland are childish in the extreme, laughing about how “Dublin will lose more money than Belfast” and not answering a single question apart from being very certain only a man and woman should get married. If we could fire the DUP into the sun I’d happily vote for a united Ireland.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 3
by Meep » Sun Oct 13, 2019 10:45 am

Failing to see the opportunity. Being forced to have a check when trading with Great Britain is bad for us as is checks with ROI. The only way Northern Ireland gets out of this economically unscathed is either Brexit is cancelled or the whole UK stays in the customs union.

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by Lagamorph » Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:17 pm

MPs: If Boris tries to bring his deal to Parliament we should amend it and add a referendum onto it.

Corbyn: Lol, no.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... referendum

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by Qikz » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:22 pm

The DUP are strawberry floating morons.

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by Garth » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:30 pm


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by TV Dinner » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:02 pm

I've rolled the dice that an extension is happening and booked a Paris holiday in late November.

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by massimo » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:18 pm

Has this been posted before? It’s a brilliant example of how to interview scam artists like Tice.

I wish this guy was working for the BBC.

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by BID0 » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:30 pm

TV Dinner wrote:I've rolled the dice that an extension is happening and booked a Paris holiday in late November.

Same! I booked one a few weeks ago for Disneyland in about the 3rd week of November. In the T&Cs it mentions Brexit and if the trip has to be cancelled because of it then I’ll get a refund if alternatives can’t be made. It’s a I’ll package though, tickets, hotel and train. I figured that was a safer bet having the whole thing together

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by Rocsteady » Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:08 am

Even if we drop out I'd be very surprised if any significant number of flights were cancelled. The air contingency plans are looking fairly comprehensive in the short term.

The border queues will be a strawberry floating nightmare though.

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by Tomous » Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:45 am

We’re going to Tuscany on 7th November for a wedding. I’m really hoping we get an extension. I’m not too worried about the flights but the airport queues will be a nightmare. Also, I want to hire a car, although I think that’s easy enough to fix by going to the post office and paying for an international driving license.

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by captain red dog » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:41 am

Rumours on twitter being retweeted from BBC journos is that the EU may shift to give the whole UK some kind of FTA. The EU would be giving Boris one hell of a win if they do that.

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by Tafdolphin » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:55 am

captain red dog wrote:Rumours on twitter being retweeted from BBC journos is that the EU may shift to give the whole UK some kind of FTA. The EU would be giving Boris one hell of a win if they do that.


I take it this wouldn't include freedom of movement?

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by captain red dog » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:06 am

Tafdolphin wrote:
captain red dog wrote:Rumours on twitter being retweeted from BBC journos is that the EU may shift to give the whole UK some kind of FTA. The EU would be giving Boris one hell of a win if they do that.


I take it this wouldn't include freedom of movement?

Who knows. The EU would be mental to give up free trade at this point.

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by Lagamorph » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:07 am

Tafdolphin wrote:
captain red dog wrote:Rumours on twitter being retweeted from BBC journos is that the EU may shift to give the whole UK some kind of FTA. The EU would be giving Boris one hell of a win if they do that.


I take it this wouldn't include freedom of movement?

If it doesn't then surely that's opening the floodgates to other EU nations demanding a FoM opt out.

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by Karl_ » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:22 am

It would destroy the EU to compromise on FOM now. Suddenly Brexit would start to look like a huge success to nationalist, racist arseholes all across the continent.

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by captain red dog » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:10 pm

Yep, personally I think if the EU agrees a FTA and doesn't have FOM as part of it, then you will see other EU nations wanting the same deal. It would be a disaster for the concept of the EU.

However, FOM is a redline for the ERG and to be honest is what Boris and Cummings have based their whole Brexit argument on, so I can't see them conceding on that from their side. It also wouldn't go down well with a majority of Brexit voters I'd imagine.

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by Tafdolphin » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:16 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -this-week

Michel Barnier has set Boris Johnson a midnight deadline to concede to EU demands and agree to a customs border in the Irish Sea or be left with nothing to take to the Commons.


Can't see this happening.

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by Hyperion » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:43 pm

captain red dog wrote:Yep, personally I think if the EU agrees a FTA and doesn't have FOM as part of it, then you will see other EU nations wanting the same deal. It would be a disaster for the concept of the EU.

However, FOM is a redline for the ERG and to be honest is what Boris and Cummings have based their whole Brexit argument on, so I can't see them conceding on that from their side. It also wouldn't go down well with a majority of Brexit voters I'd imagine.

Well a whole load of Brexit supporters want us to "Controll Are Boarders" but also are advocating no border controls on the only land border with the EU

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by Photek » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:48 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/15/barnier-brexit-deal-difficult-but-possible-this-week

Michel Barnier has set Boris Johnson a midnight deadline to concede to EU demands and agree to a customs border in the Irish Sea or be left with nothing to take to the Commons.


Can't see this happening.

Boris must have pre-agreed to this before hand though, that’s why talks have got to this point.

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