Re: Brexit Thread 3
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:22 am
Moggy wrote:Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Karl_ wrote:Oblomov Boblomov wrote:Karl_ wrote:I am more sympathetic to people who were ignorant / stubborn in 2016 but who have since seen all the gross little bits of gooseberry fool flying out of the fan. If you get it wrong and hold your hands up after and admit you believed a lie or whatever, then fine, I respect the honesty. Politics is complicated, Brexit was deliberately muddied, I think a lot of perfectly nice people will have got it wrong.
Are there many of these people? Do we have any research into it? It feels as though the number is negligible, with the vast majority planted firmly, fingers in ears.
Anecdotally yeah I know a few! But I think that's selection bias, I am much more likely to know "borderline" Leave voters than the hardcore.
Statistically, based on how polls have swung, I think it's probably at most about a quarter of Leave voters that have had second thoughts since then. A solid majority of them have dug their heels in: to me that says it was never really about the "opportunities" or "£350 million" or any real(-seeming) arguments, all that's disappeared but they must still be getting what they want on some level.
I'm more worried about the minds of people who voted remain but now want to leave. I can't understand the working of those people.
A lot of the people that say “I voted Remain but....” are lying Leavers.
There probably are people that have changed from Remain to Leave, but their number is vanishingly small compared to those that switched the other way.
This, it’s utter nonsense.