Buying a house (and renting)

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by Lex-Man » Fri Mar 13, 2020 1:53 pm

Is that in writing? You could get all your legal fees back and it'd be a fairly sort case if that was true.

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by Moggy » Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:05 pm

That's not a growth wrote:But they've already agreed to drop it in the past, no negotiations can now be taken in good faith so it isn't worth pursuing something that will likely bite you in the ass.


Exactly that. I cannot trust anything they say.

Lex-Man wrote:Is that in writing? You could get all your legal fees back and it'd be a fairly sort case if that was true.


It is in writing. The landlords have said that because the letters were “without prejudice” that they could not be used in a court case, but I think that is bollocks. If they’ve lied then they were not acting in good faith and “without prejudice” is not applicable.

But it’s a massive risk. Potentially tens of thousands of pounds of risk. Even if I am 95% sure I would win, I could easily end up with £20k+ owed.

I have complained to the solicitor who gave me terrible advice. Doubt that will go anywhere but I am so angry that I had to do it.

I am going to wait until next week to decide what to do about the landlords.

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by Lagamorph » Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:18 pm

Given that the amount is under £10k I would have thought it would go to Small Claims court where costs/fees can't be awarded unless the action is clearly vexatious.

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by Ecno » Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:19 am

So I'm a private tennant in a council flat.

Today my loo got blocked and I could see the water was going to rise out of the loo so I took the back off the toilet to stop it, but it what I saw was unfamiliar(wasn't the standard ball toilet thing).

As a result I think I disrupted the mechanism which stops the toilet bowel from keep filling up. Whilst I was frantically making calls to my landlords emergency line the toilet was overflowing, and leaking through the floor, onto my ground floor and then into the flat below.

The emergency team eventually talked me through shutting off the flow of water into the cistern.

I don't know how much water went into the flat below, but the guy said it went all over his printer (and potentially other electronics). Assuming the guys printer was strawberry floated and maybe some other stuff whose responsibility would it be to replace everything? My landlord? The freeholder (i.e. council) etc.

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by Dual » Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:22 am

Ecno wrote:So I'm a private tennant in a council flat.

Today my loo got blocked and I could see the water was going to rise out of the loo so I took the back off the toilet to stop it, but it what I saw was unfamiliar(wasn't the standard ball toilet thing).

As a result I think I disrupted the mechanism which stops the toilet bowel from keep filling up. Whilst I was frantically making calls to my landlords emergency line the toilet was overflowing, and leaking through the floor, onto my ground floor and then into the flat below.

The emergency team eventually talked me through shutting off the flow of water into the cistern.

I don't know how much water went into the flat below, but the guy said it went all over his printer (and potentially other electronics). Assuming the guys printer was strawberry floated and maybe some other stuff whose responsibility would it be to replace everything? My landlord? The freeholder (i.e. council) etc.


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by Lagamorph » Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:23 am

Ecno wrote:So I'm a private tennant in a council flat.

Today my loo got blocked and I could see the water was going to rise out of the loo so I took the back off the toilet to stop it, but it what I saw was unfamiliar(wasn't the standard ball toilet thing).

As a result I think I disrupted the mechanism which stops the toilet bowel from keep filling up. Whilst I was frantically making calls to my landlords emergency line the toilet was overflowing, and leaking through the floor, onto my ground floor and then into the flat below.

The emergency team eventually talked me through shutting off the flow of water into the cistern.

I don't know how much water went into the flat below, but the guy said it went all over his printer (and potentially other electronics). Assuming the guys printer was strawberry floated and maybe some other stuff whose responsibility would it be to replace everything? My landlord? The freeholder (i.e. council) etc.

I think in that particular case he basically has to claim on his own contents insurance.

He can only claim against your insurance/the landlord if he can prove there was some kind of negligence involved. If it was just pure accident then he needs to claim from his own contents insurance.

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by Errkal » Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:12 am

Yeah very much depends on fault.

If it is the fault of negligence on the part of your landlord it would be the landlords insurance

If the fault is you it's yours

If it is none of these then it is their own

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by No:1 Final Fantasy Fan » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:15 pm

The flat above mine has a leaking washing machine. I told her its leaking into my kitchen last week and she said sorry but maybe now is not a good time to get a new one or fix it due to this virus situation.

Anyway its just leaking again and there's a tiny hole in my kitchen ceiling situated about half a metre from the light fitting. Obviously this hole has developed over the years (I only lived here since August 2019) due to occasional leaks.

Im gonna have to go up and confront her again later to tell her that its leaking. I had a feeling it would be leaking when I heard her washing machine go into a spin cycle.

My problem is I hate confrontation and never come across as firm. I need to tell her I am calling an emergency plumber today if she doesn't and bill her for it as well as getting my kitchen ceiling repaired and claiming it out of her insurance so will be requesting her buildings insurance details. Is this a good way to go about it?

God I wish I never bought a flat now...you all know what I am like when it comes to water... :fp: :slol:

Or should I just let it leak until she fixes her machine? I mean it is only a small puddle of water. Although one time her sink blocked and completely overflowed and my kitchen floor was completely soaked. Luckily she got her sink fixed that time.

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by Moggy » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:28 pm

No:1 Final Fantasy Fan wrote:The flat above mine has a leaking washing machine. I told her its leaking into my kitchen last week and she said sorry but maybe now is not a good time to get a new one or fix it due to this virus situation.

Anyway its just leaking again and there's a tiny hole in my kitchen ceiling situated about half a metre from the light fitting. Obviously this hole has developed over the years (I only lived here since August 2019) due to occasional leaks.

Im gonna have to go up and confront her again later to tell her that its leaking. I had a feeling it would be leaking when I heard her washing machine go into a spin cycle.

My problem is I hate confrontation and never come across as firm. I need to tell her I am calling an emergency plumber today if she doesn't and bill her for it as well as getting my kitchen ceiling repaired and claiming it out of her insurance so will be requesting her buildings insurance details. Is this a good way to go about it?

God I wish I never bought a flat now...you all know what I am like when it comes to water... :fp: :slol:


Sounds like you should have gone to Leeds.....

Seriously though that’s pretty shitty. It’s true it’s not a good time to be calling out plumbers, but if it’s leaking into your flat then she needs to bloody sort it.

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by No:1 Final Fantasy Fan » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:33 pm

Moggy wrote:
No:1 Final Fantasy Fan wrote:The flat above mine has a leaking washing machine. I told her its leaking into my kitchen last week and she said sorry but maybe now is not a good time to get a new one or fix it due to this virus situation.

Anyway its just leaking again and there's a tiny hole in my kitchen ceiling situated about half a metre from the light fitting. Obviously this hole has developed over the years (I only lived here since August 2019) due to occasional leaks.

Im gonna have to go up and confront her again later to tell her that its leaking. I had a feeling it would be leaking when I heard her washing machine go into a spin cycle.

My problem is I hate confrontation and never come across as firm. I need to tell her I am calling an emergency plumber today if she doesn't and bill her for it as well as getting my kitchen ceiling repaired and claiming it out of her insurance so will be requesting her buildings insurance details. Is this a good way to go about it?

God I wish I never bought a flat now...you all know what I am like when it comes to water... :fp: :slol:


Sounds like you should have gone to Leeds.....

Seriously though that’s pretty shitty. It’s true it’s not a good time to be calling out plumbers, but if it’s leaking into your flat then she needs to bloody sort it.

I think this virus is an excuse tbh, as long as she lets the plumber in or the delivery men in if she buys a new one whilst keeping her distance. Why are people such cheapskates? Just get a bloody new washing machine...you can easily get decent ones anywhere from £600.

Anyway Thank you! I should offer her the address of the local laundrette too and why Leeds?

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by Moggy » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:41 pm

£600 for a washing machine?

Never change mate :lol:

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by Tomous » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:44 pm

No:1 Final Fantasy Fan wrote:The flat above mine has a leaking washing machine. I told her its leaking into my kitchen last week and she said sorry but maybe now is not a good time to get a new one or fix it due to this virus situation.

Anyway its just leaking again and there's a tiny hole in my kitchen ceiling situated about half a metre from the light fitting. Obviously this hole has developed over the years (I only lived here since August 2019) due to occasional leaks.

Im gonna have to go up and confront her again later to tell her that its leaking. I had a feeling it would be leaking when I heard her washing machine go into a spin cycle.

My problem is I hate confrontation and never come across as firm. I need to tell her I am calling an emergency plumber today if she doesn't and bill her for it as well as getting my kitchen ceiling repaired and claiming it out of her insurance so will be requesting her buildings insurance details. Is this a good way to go about it?

God I wish I never bought a flat now...you all know what I am like when it comes to water... :fp: :slol:

Or should I just let it leak until she fixes her machine? I mean it is only a small puddle of water. Although one time her sink blocked and completely overflowed and my kitchen floor was completely soaked. Luckily she got her sink fixed that time.



How badly is your kitchen soaked? Wet enough that you could, I dunno, capsize a raft in there?

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by That's not a growth » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:45 pm

:lol: strawberry floating hell

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by Jenuall » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:46 pm

£600 washing machines? Raining inside your flat?

Sounds like someone has been at the space cakes again!

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by No:1 Final Fantasy Fan » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:58 pm

Moggy wrote:£600 for a washing machine?

Never change mate :lol:

Doing my research on washing machines I personally would never spend below £600 if I wanted imo a decent one! An entry Miele model or either a mid range Bosch or Siemens model is my recommendation. Anyway if she's on a budget and cannot afford one then she should save up imo!


Tomous wrote:How badly is your kitchen soaked? Wet enough that you could, I dunno, capsize a raft in there?

Anywhere from 50 to 100ml of water on the floor/small puddle.

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by Tsunade » Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:50 pm

Bloody hell. My brother bought me a machine when I first moved into my flat for about £150. It works perfectly. Do these £600+ machines make your clothes fold themselves or something?

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by Errkal » Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:52 pm

Tsunade wrote:Bloody hell. My brother bought me a machine when I first moved into my flat for about £150. It works perfectly. Do these £600+ machines make your clothes fold themselves or something?


They are much more efficient, considerably quieter and vibrate way way way less, they also last way longer, Meile are insane good, the vets my wife works at as one that is forever old and is used constantly and just keep on chugging.

I’ve not got a fancy one like it at home, would love to be able to drop that sort on a machine as you will reap the rewards but can’t afford the initial outlay.

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by No:1 Final Fantasy Fan » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:27 pm

Errkal wrote:
Tsunade wrote:Bloody hell. My brother bought me a machine when I first moved into my flat for about £150. It works perfectly. Do these £600+ machines make your clothes fold themselves or something?


They are much more efficient, considerably quieter and vibrate way way way less, they also last way longer, Meile are insane good, the vets my wife works at as one that is forever old and is used constantly and just keep on chugging.

I’ve not got a fancy one like it at home, would love to be able to drop that sort on a machine as you will reap the rewards but can’t afford the initial outlay.

What Errkal just said thanks! Yeah Miele are so quiet and don't even seem to vibrate even at max RPM during the drying cycle. They also clean much better being able to remove stains that other machines would struggle to whilst looking after your clothes so that they stay looking new for longer. This all comes with better drum design and wash programmes.
They are very sturdy too with high quality components. Last year when I was renting they had a Hotpoint :fp: which constantly broke because the cheap plastic door handle would snap WTH?!

They are much easier to use too imo. I was borrowing my sisters machine at her flat which is a Baumatic and it was so complicated I had to look for the manual online...seriously literally could not work it out as it had tonnes of random symbols and tonnes of programmes which most which would never get used.

I would also avoid the brands such as Samsung or LG as they tend to add a lot of pointless tech to their machines that imo are just a gimmick and have low reliability.

I currently have a Bosch in my flat because I have no space in my kitchen for two separate machines, washer and dryer. Otherwise I would have got a Miele but instead have a Bosch washer dryer as the Miele washer dryers start at £1.5k :fp: and I don't like how slow washer dryers are at drying so no matter what brand I would not want to spend loads on one.

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by grog monster 64 » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:28 pm

Just for a bit of perspective, I have a Samsung washing machine. It cost £350. Not a spot of bother in the five years I’ve had it, touch wood.

I’m not sure you can claim on her insurance by getting her details. You absolutely should ask her to act as a matter of urgency, but if she won’t act, you’ll have to contact your lawyer.

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by Errkal » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:33 pm

grog monster 64 wrote:Just for a bit of perspective, I have a Samsung washing machine. It cost £350. Not a spot of bother in the five years I’ve had it, touch wood.

I’m not sure you can claim on her insurance by getting her details. You absolutely should ask her to act as a matter of urgency, but if she won’t act, you’ll have to contact your lawyer.


I honk you have to go to your insurance company, they would then put that in to her insurance company. It’s how car shiz works so don’t see why home would be any different.


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