Buying a house (and renting)

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by RetroCora » Tue May 24, 2022 4:56 pm

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satriales wrote:Anyone have tips for best and final offers?

We've found a place we love. It's priced about £100k below our absolute top end that we can afford, so we have put in an offer at asking price. There have been other offers and now it's going to best and final offers. We would probably be okay paying 50k over asking if there was another person interested and we had a bit of back and forth with bidding, but it seems wrong to suddenly jump to a bid of 50k over asking. We can afford it but don't want to pay that much unless we really have to. What to do?

If we went say 25k over and lose do we realistically have any chance of a subsequent higher bid being accepted? I know legally you can bid again but are sellers likely to consider other offers after the BAFO process?


Do you have the extra cash to hand? Only advice I can give is to put forward an irregular offer, like £5,400 rather than £5k cuz thats an obvious choice and your bid would still end up higher. Worked out for us, we paid that much over the home report value which was literally all we had spare after deposit and moving costs and managed to snag it. But we got beat by 20k upwards for others.


This is what's happening with my brother at the moment - one property he put in £25,000 over the asking price and was fifth out of nine(and beaten by almost £50,000). Granted our system is slightly different from Sat's, but this is still good advice I think!

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PostRe: Buying a house (and renting)
by Stugene » Tue May 24, 2022 5:31 pm

RetroCora wrote:
Bunni wrote:
satriales wrote:Anyone have tips for best and final offers?

We've found a place we love. It's priced about £100k below our absolute top end that we can afford, so we have put in an offer at asking price. There have been other offers and now it's going to best and final offers. We would probably be okay paying 50k over asking if there was another person interested and we had a bit of back and forth with bidding, but it seems wrong to suddenly jump to a bid of 50k over asking. We can afford it but don't want to pay that much unless we really have to. What to do?

If we went say 25k over and lose do we realistically have any chance of a subsequent higher bid being accepted? I know legally you can bid again but are sellers likely to consider other offers after the BAFO process?


Do you have the extra cash to hand? Only advice I can give is to put forward an irregular offer, like £5,400 rather than £5k cuz thats an obvious choice and your bid would still end up higher. Worked out for us, we paid that much over the home report value which was literally all we had spare after deposit and moving costs and managed to snag it. But we got beat by 20k upwards for others.


This is what's happening with my brother at the moment - one property he put in £25,000 over the asking price and was fifth out of nine(and beaten by almost £50,000). Granted our system is slightly different from Sat's, but this is still good advice I think!

i got pipped by someone putting 30k more than the market value the other week :simper:

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PostRe: Buying a house (and renting)
by RetroCora » Tue May 24, 2022 5:48 pm

Stugene wrote:
RetroCora wrote:
Bunni wrote:
satriales wrote:Anyone have tips for best and final offers?

We've found a place we love. It's priced about £100k below our absolute top end that we can afford, so we have put in an offer at asking price. There have been other offers and now it's going to best and final offers. We would probably be okay paying 50k over asking if there was another person interested and we had a bit of back and forth with bidding, but it seems wrong to suddenly jump to a bid of 50k over asking. We can afford it but don't want to pay that much unless we really have to. What to do?

If we went say 25k over and lose do we realistically have any chance of a subsequent higher bid being accepted? I know legally you can bid again but are sellers likely to consider other offers after the BAFO process?


Do you have the extra cash to hand? Only advice I can give is to put forward an irregular offer, like £5,400 rather than £5k cuz thats an obvious choice and your bid would still end up higher. Worked out for us, we paid that much over the home report value which was literally all we had spare after deposit and moving costs and managed to snag it. But we got beat by 20k upwards for others.


This is what's happening with my brother at the moment - one property he put in £25,000 over the asking price and was fifth out of nine(and beaten by almost £50,000). Granted our system is slightly different from Sat's, but this is still good advice I think!

i got pipped by someone putting 30k more than the market value the other week :simper:


I hate this country :dread:

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PostRe: Buying a house (and renting)
by Stugene » Tue May 24, 2022 6:36 pm

People are pumping 30 grand over the asking price rather than placing an offer on a property that is 20 or 30k more - properties which i cannot afford, but they can. everyone with more money than the man below is acting like a strawberry floating banana split.

There should be offer limits.

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PostRe: Buying a house (and renting)
by satriales » Tue May 24, 2022 6:36 pm

Cheers everyone. We've put in our best and final offer. Not gone too crazy but we do really want the house so put in a decent offer and should have a fair shot at winning. There are three other offers though so anything can happen. Hopefully the vendor will pick one tomorrow and we'll get an update soon after.

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PostRe: Buying a house (and renting)
by Moggy » Tue May 24, 2022 6:47 pm

satriales wrote:Cheers everyone. We've put in our best and final offer. Not gone too crazy but we do really want the house so put in a decent offer and should have a fair shot at winning. There are three other offers though so anything can happen. Hopefully the vendor will pick one tomorrow and we'll get an update soon after.


Good luck :wub:

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PostRe: Buying a house (and renting)
by Drumstick » Tue May 24, 2022 8:34 pm

Stugene wrote:i got pipped by someone putting 30k more than the market value the other week :simper:

Damn, that really sucks. Was it a developer?

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by Kezzer » Tue May 24, 2022 8:53 pm

Drumstick wrote:
Stugene wrote:i got pipped by someone putting 30k more than the market value the other week :simper:

Damn, that really sucks. Was it a developer?

Good luck Sat!


It's Scotland. I put an offer in of £368k on a house 'marketed' at £280K and was 4th highest out of 9 :|

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by Victor Mildew » Tue May 24, 2022 10:30 pm

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Drumstick wrote:
Stugene wrote:i got pipped by someone putting 30k more than the market value the other week :simper:

Damn, that really sucks. Was it a developer?

Good luck Sat!


It's Scotland. I put an offer in of £368k on a house 'marketed' at £280K and was 4th highest out of 9 :|


There's houses worth that in Scotland? Did you put an offer in on Edinburgh castle?

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by Kezzer » Wed May 25, 2022 10:20 am

ha ha ha

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PostRe: Buying a house (and renting)
by Stugene » Wed May 25, 2022 3:40 pm

Victor Mildew wrote:
Kezzer wrote:
Drumstick wrote:
Stugene wrote:i got pipped by someone putting 30k more than the market value the other week :simper:

Damn, that really sucks. Was it a developer?

Good luck Sat!


It's Scotland. I put an offer in of £368k on a house 'marketed' at £280K and was 4th highest out of 9 :|


There's houses worth that in Scotland? Did you put an offer in on Edinburgh castle?

what and get outbid? :cry:

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PostRe: Buying a house (and renting)
by satriales » Wed May 25, 2022 6:51 pm

Didn't get the house :x :cry:

There were 5 offers in the end and we were 3rd despite bidding 38k over asking price. The winner was a cash buyer (always is) that went over by more than 75k!! We had no chance. Similar story for all three properties we've put offers on now. Bonkers market at the moment.

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PostRe: Buying a house (and renting)
by Kezzer » Wed May 25, 2022 8:48 pm

its time to kill all landlords

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PostRe: Buying a house (and renting)
by Drumstick » Wed May 25, 2022 9:36 pm

Unlucky mate. Might be an idea to wait for the market to calm down as otherwise you risk drastically overpaying.

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PostRe: Buying a house (and renting)
by RetroCora » Wed May 25, 2022 11:07 pm

Victor Mildew wrote:
Kezzer wrote:
Drumstick wrote:
Stugene wrote:i got pipped by someone putting 30k more than the market value the other week :simper:

Damn, that really sucks. Was it a developer?

Good luck Sat!


It's Scotland. I put an offer in of £368k on a house 'marketed' at £280K and was 4th highest out of 9 :|


There's houses worth that in Scotland? Did you put an offer in on Edinburgh castle?


Behave yourself.

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PostRe: Buying a house (and renting)
by Jenuall » Mon May 30, 2022 7:00 pm

RetroCora wrote:
Victor Mildew wrote:
Kezzer wrote:
Drumstick wrote:
Stugene wrote:i got pipped by someone putting 30k more than the market value the other week :simper:

Damn, that really sucks. Was it a developer?

Good luck Sat!


It's Scotland. I put an offer in of £368k on a house 'marketed' at £280K and was 4th highest out of 9 :|


There's houses worth that in Scotland? Did you put an offer in on Edinburgh castle?


Behave yourself.

Yeah come on now, let's not be ridiculous.


There's no way Edinburgh Castle is worth that much!

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PostRe: Buying a house (and renting)
by Curls » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:59 am

Why does Scotland have such ridiculous rules?

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PostRe: Buying a house (and renting)
by RetroCora » Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:02 am

Scots law is archaic and weird, is the honest answer(we have three potential trial verdicts, for example - guilty, not guilty and not proven). Scots property law even more so.

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PostRe: Buying a house (and renting)
by Moggy » Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:07 am

RetroCora wrote:Scots law is archaic and weird, is the honest answer(we have three potential trial verdicts, for example - guilty, not guilty and not proven). Scots property law even more so.


I don't know anything about Scottish property law, but I like the option of a "not proven" verdict.

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PostRe: Buying a house (and renting)
by RetroCora » Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:23 am

Moggy wrote:
RetroCora wrote:Scots law is archaic and weird, is the honest answer(we have three potential trial verdicts, for example - guilty, not guilty and not proven). Scots property law even more so.


I don't know anything about Scottish property law, but I like the option of a "not proven" verdict.


Yeah it's actually a brilliant little bit of legal trickery, though it does have drawbacks. Essentially it's a way for juries to say "we think the person is guilty, but the prosecution hasn't done a good enough job of showing it," and I think probably the most high profile recent example was one of the sex crime charges levied against Alex Salmond being found not proven last year.

Property law is strawberry floating mental. Totally different from English law, loads of additional stuff and things that English buyers just wouldn't have to think of.


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