Buying a house (and renting)

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by Hime » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:21 pm

If I were you I'd pay to see a really good legal professional just to find out what your options are and the potential cost. I'd strawberry floating love you to do these strawberry floats over and get a payout for your efforts but I get out through the ringer. It's really gooseberry fool but £2.5k might be the easiest option to get away from there rather than spend more and drag it out for months.

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by Moggy » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:32 pm

Hime wrote:If I were you I'd pay to see a really good legal professional just to find out what your options are and the potential cost. I'd strawberry floating love you to do these strawberry floats over and get a payout for your efforts but I get out through the ringer. It's really gooseberry fool but £2.5k might be the easiest option to get away from there rather than spend more and drag it out for months.


Trouble is that I’ve seen how these banana splits operate. I paid £5k to get away and they then ignored the agreement came right back with a further demand. If I pay another £2.5k, I fully expect they’ll bullshit their way into making another demand.

I’ll make an appointment with a solicitor and see what they say.

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by Ste » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:28 pm

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I work in claims. Liability/personal injury so not exactly the same but I know about without prejudice correspondence and how the courts tend to deal with disputes.

This is the first time I've stumbled across this thread, I've not read it all and have had a bottle of wine but my advice would be if you think you've got a good case/argument then don't pay anymore and just ignore them.

For them to get what they claim is owed to them they'd have to go to a small claims court. As someone else has pointed out, as the amount involved is less than £10k no one would get any legal costs awarded to them so that will be a big part in their thinking. The courts/judge will always favour the individual against the big company. So like I said, if you think you've got a good case no company will want to take an individual to court knowing the judge will favour the individual and they won't get any legal costs involved in the process.

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by Moggy » Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:24 am

Ste wrote:Moggy

I work in claims. Liability/personal injury so not exactly the same but I know about without prejudice correspondence and how the courts tend to deal with disputes.

This is the first time I've stumbled across this thread, I've not read it all and have had a bottle of wine but my advice would be if you think you've got a good case/argument then don't pay anymore and just ignore them.

For them to get what they claim is owed to them they'd have to go to a small claims court. As someone else has pointed out, as the amount involved is less than £10k no one would get any legal costs awarded to them so that will be a big part in their thinking. The courts/judge will always favour the individual against the big company. So like I said, if you think you've got a good case no company will want to take an individual to court knowing the judge will favour the individual and they won't get any legal costs involved in the process.


Thanks for the reply. You’re almost certainly right that the property management company will not ever take me to court. They know they would lose.

But the problem is that the charges they add are going to stop me being able to sell the place. Nobody is going to want to buy a flat that has charges outstanding (whether those charges are valid or not) and even if there was some way of not passing the “debt” on, it will put off potential buyers if they think the PMC are lying banana splits.

If I wanted to stay here then I’d continue to ignore the pricks, but I’d like to move at some point and so need to get this sorted.

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by Moggy » Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:34 am

I have an appointment with my solicitor on Thursday. Hopefully they will be able to advise me where I stand and what I can do.

On an unrelated note, does anybody want to buy a flat in Bristol? :shifty:

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by Jenuall » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:00 am

Good luck with it, hopefully you can get a decent solution to the problem. I would be strawberry floating livid with those property management people

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by Moggy » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:09 am

I am not convinced anything can be solved outside of going to court, but the hope is that the solicitor can at least tell me if I am right or wrong and can suggest how we can move things forward.

I really want to avoid an expensive court case though, so hopefully just a threatening letter from my solicitor will be enough. I imagine the property management company know that leaseholders don't want to go to court and so rely on badgering people until they give in.

The whole leasehold sector is a strawberry floating mess. I would never consider buying another leasehold, it's just not worth it.

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by Drumstick » Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:35 pm

I have long been of the opinion that leaseholds should be illegal.

One man should not have this much power in this game. Luckily I'm not an ordinary man.
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by Jenuall » Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:42 pm

Yeah the leasehold setup is just so gooseberry fool. It's so easy for it to be the worst of both worlds for the owner. :dread:

I can see why you would want to avoid court Moggy, but hopefully they will want to as well so there could be some leverage in leaning in to the threat of taking it that way.

I've only ever really had to deal with one real dispute like this in my time but we managed to get the other party to significantly back down after applying some pressure via contact from our "representative" (in this case it was actually just a friend who works in the legal profession doing us a favour rather than someone we had contracted as our lawyer - but the other party didn't know that! :lol: )

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by pjbetman » Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:35 pm

Moggy wrote:I am not convinced anything can be solved outside of going to court, but the hope is that the solicitor can at least tell me if I am right or wrong and can suggest how we can move things forward.

I really want to avoid an expensive court case though, so hopefully just a threatening letter from my solicitor will be enough. I imagine the property management company know that leaseholders don't want to go to court and so rely on badgering people until they give in.

The whole leasehold sector is a strawberry floating mess. I would never consider buying another leasehold, it's just not worth it.



I would imagine that them sort of holding you to ransom over this, illegally, would leave them open to being counter sued. I mean if they prevented you from selling your property at the market rate - it would be their fault you couldn't. There must be a well trodden legal path your solicitor could go down to force the issue?

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by Moggy » Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:49 pm

pjbetman wrote:
Moggy wrote:I am not convinced anything can be solved outside of going to court, but the hope is that the solicitor can at least tell me if I am right or wrong and can suggest how we can move things forward.

I really want to avoid an expensive court case though, so hopefully just a threatening letter from my solicitor will be enough. I imagine the property management company know that leaseholders don't want to go to court and so rely on badgering people until they give in.

The whole leasehold sector is a strawberry floating mess. I would never consider buying another leasehold, it's just not worth it.



I would imagine that them sort of holding you to ransom over this, illegally, would leave them open to being counter sued. I mean if they prevented you from selling your property at the market rate - it would be their fault you couldn't. There must be a well trodden legal path your solicitor could go down to force the issue?


I hope so. It is one the questions I plan to ask my solicitor when I meet him.

Trouble is that court cases cost a huge amount of money. And even if I have a good case there is no guarantee I would win it. Is it worth risking £10k+ on a court case I think I would win? Because if I didn't win, then I am in serious financial trouble.

Hopefully things will be clearer on Thursday and the property management company backs the strawberry float down when they get a solicitors letter.

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by Lex-Man » Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:37 pm

Has anybody had any experience with asbestos in textured wall coverings? I'm looking at buying a house but it's got asbestos in textured wall coverings. Apparently I could leave it but would want it removed as it would effect the resale value. It's a three bed house any idea how much that kind of work would cost?

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by Benzin » Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:51 pm

You'd need a specialist mob to come in since it's a big no no in disturbing asbestos these days in commercial circumstances. I dread to think what would happen to a company just casually doing it in residential building.

I'd expect it to be costly to remove. Might be worth changing the choice of house.

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by Dual » Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:53 pm

Lex-Man wrote:Has anybody had any experience with asbestos in textured wall coverings? I'm looking at buying a house but it's got asbestos in textured wall coverings. Apparently I could leave it but would want it removed as it would effect the resale value. It's a three bed house any idea how much that kind of work would cost?


How do you know its asbestos?

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by Lex-Man » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:04 pm

Dual wrote:
Lex-Man wrote:Has anybody had any experience with asbestos in textured wall coverings? I'm looking at buying a house but it's got asbestos in textured wall coverings. Apparently I could leave it but would want it removed as it would effect the resale value. It's a three bed house any idea how much that kind of work would cost?


How do you know its asbestos?


There was a previous buyer who got a survey done. The survey said that there's probably asbestos in the wall coverings. It's not a guarantee but pretty certain.


This is whats probably there.

https://www.hse.gov.uk/asbestos/essentials/coatings.htm

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by Moggy » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:11 pm

My solicitor agreed with me that I did everything correctly, the property management company are completely wrong and that I have a pretty watertight case.

But a letter from the solicitor would be expensive.

He’s suggested a formal complaint (they’ve always basically ignored them!) and of that doesn’t work then complaining to the Property Ombudsman. He warned me that could take months though.

After that if it isn’t solved then the only option is the expensive legal route. Which will also take ages.

So I’m strawberry floating stuck here unless the property management company sees sense. Which in my experience is unlikely.

Still at least I know I was right and I’m relieved I didn’t make any mistakes with my settlement letters. The solicitor actually called them “stupid” several times. :lol:

I’m so sick of this though. It’s like there’s no end to the bullshit. :x

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by Jenuall » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:26 pm

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by pjbetman » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:41 pm

Moggy wrote:My solicitor agreed with me that I did everything correctly, the property management company are completely wrong and that I have a pretty watertight case.

But a letter from the solicitor would be expensive.

He’s suggested a formal complaint (they’ve always basically ignored them!) and of that doesn’t work then complaining to the Property Ombudsman. He warned me that could take months though.

After that if it isn’t solved then the only option is the expensive legal route. Which will also take ages.

So I’m strawberry floating stuck here unless the property management company sees sense. Which in my experience is unlikely.

Still at least I know I was right and I’m relieved I didn’t make any mistakes with my settlement letters. The solicitor actually called them “stupid” several times. :lol:

I’m so sick of this though. It’s like there’s no end to the bullshit. :x


That's positive then. I'd be prepared to wait a few months or a year or so to get it sorted though.

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by Moggy » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:13 pm

Yeah it’s positive but also infuriating that it’ll all take so long when all I want is to get out of here.

I’m not giving in though. I’m not being ripped off by cowboy banana splits.

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by Kezzer » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:58 pm

go to the local paper!

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